Ok... now back to the original subject...
When I first made the OP I was a bit "emotionally charged" and probably in the wrong state of mind... I had just figured out how deep the rabbit hole goes, and was quite pissed off about how wide-spread scamming is in Bitcoinland. I had been up all night researching and investigating and was completely exhausted, so I was indeed a bit too hasty and too eager to do something. I should've slept on it and organized my thoughts the next morning. As BCB points out, I am a newbie here and that makes it difficult to relate to others who've been here long before me. Those of you who've been here for several years have probably dealt with more scamming than I can even imagine, and your patience has simply worn thing... this is understandable... But I would still like to point out that you shouldn't personally attack people and treat them like dirt when they haven't actually done harm to
anyone... :-)
That being said, let's hurry up and find someone to be the accountant and come up with a gameplan. In the meantime, I'll be spending my time continuing my efforts with Paypal and eBay. I would greatly appreciate some community input on how we can proceed with this idea and see it come to fruition. We really need this...
@ franky1 ::Franky, you still do not seem to understand... I will go over this with you one more time, but it is beginning to get rather annoying, no offense. So allow me to respond to each of your remarks...
atc your latest post sounds like a proper business plan. if only your main thread started out as this.
one thing to learn about the community is when dealing with people we have never met face to face trust has to be earned and many people will do 'due diligence' checks and research the name behind the face before trading/handing money to them.
You have a valid point here, and you have indeed made several valid points. But the weight of them is significantly reduced by your deviation from reasonable, civilized discussion to personal attacks and slander having little/no base in reality...
so please do not get offended by people checking your facebook. its not stalking. its just checking up on the person. its standard practice to check who you are dealing with.
No, I was never offended by anyone checking my Facebook. Anyone is welcome to add me on Facebook and be my friend, chat, whatever. What is offensive is going on someone's Facebook and hijacking their pictures so you can call them things like "hillbilly" and "spree killer"... and you know you saw that. That is NOT "due dilligence", and no one was asked to make an investment in my company (the doors are closed anyway). That is
childish... I expect better from kids in high school...
secondly many have also checked up on the atc enterprises inc. apart from a business that was formed in 1984 (before you were born) and dissolved in 1990. there are no other Louisiana records on state websites for your business. no yellow pages listings, no google listings. just a facebook page created on december 5th
You don't seem to understand that my company is a
new company, and we have just incorporated. We are not yet showing up in listings... it is not an instantaneous process. Why are you surprised that I created a Facebook page on Dec. 5th for a
brand-new corporation that was founded on that date? Our legal work for the incorporation process has only just finished. And we have nothing to do with now defunct "ATC Enterprises" founded in 1984... as you pointed out, that was 4 years before I was born. There are numerous websites on the internet trying to use the name "ATC Enterprises" but they do not own the name, and probably aren't even real, registered companies... our preliminary name search cleared earlier in December, as no one owned the name and it now belongs to us -- a brand-new corporation.
What I fail to understand is what any of this has to do with the idea of an open anti-fraud organization I want to see started in the community, which I have already said I do NOT want to own or be in charge of... ATC Enterprises, Inc. is a
private company and it is completely my own affair and has NOTHING to do with the proposed anti-fraud organization. I am accountable to the law and shareholders, but not you. No one here is being asked to invest in my company, and as I've already pointed out no one here
can invest in it... if I allowed such a thing we would no longer qualify for SEC exemptions and would have to register with them, file a formal prospectus and waste a lot of unnecessary time and money for nothing. So I dunno why you're so eager to bash my little company that I've started and try to make me look bad... Lay off, bro...
which is another reason why those that do research people found your proposition initially flawed. due to your lack of credible background.
That is a rather distorted view of what has happened here...
you might be the most honest guy alive in the world, but please take this under advisement. insulting people that do check up on you is like the opposite of what an antifraud organisation would do. they would actually appreciate people that do background checks.
I don't recall insulting anyone... what I DO recall is being insulted, personally attacked and accused of various outlandish conspiracy theories. No one here did a real "background check" on me. The only thing you guys did was attempt a personal assault on me as a person and offered a very twisted and cruel portrayal of me to suit your own purposes.
wanting people to trust you just on face value of a facebook page and a photo is not a good strategy for someone opening an anti-fraud organisation.
the comments about making a reputable person accountable for the donations should definitely be implemented due to the many flaws in your background checks.
Again, there have been no actual background checks... just some very childish and immature behavior.
have you made a business plan about what kind of expertise you will require to aid you. and i still await the persuasive and detailed template email to paypal.
(not the personal emails about your personal victimisation you have already sent them)
Why do you keep using terms like "business" and "investment", when this is not what this is about? What I have proposed is an
open, community-based non-profit organization to fight fraud and scammers. And I have also stated more than a few times I do not want to end up as the leader.
settle down concentrating on donations for now. instead get the main agenda of the organisation sorted. you dont need a website for this. all you need is to request some expertise and send some emails.
I'm not asking for any more donations. I want the responsibility taken off my hands
immediately so I can be at peace again...
your day trading/ BMW M.Benz shows everyone that your not poor, so money should not be the main thing that you are repetitively trying to defend your trust over.
Ah, so you noticed... Perhaps I haven't been such a business "failure" after all, and as far as my own company (a private venture) goes I know what I am doing... So please leave me alone about my company...
earn your trust as a anti-fraud organisation CEO. not as a charity.
I don't WANT to be "CEO" of the anti-fraud organization. Other than running my own private company
my way, not yours, I just want to play my part in getting one started and helping it accomplish something. So again, I'm asking people to step up and help with the effort. And the sooner someone is elected to take over the funds/donations the better, because I'm sick of holding it in my wallet and being attacked.
Regards,
--ATC--
