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January 26, 2016, 05:33:32 PM
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The European Parliament’s Economic and Monetary Affairs Committee (ECON) held a public hearing on Monday, January 25th 2016 on virtual currencies and the role of regulators.

The role of virtual currencies in abetting illegal activities such as money laundering and terrorism funding was the central idea discussed during the meeting. 

The ECON policy-makers took a balanced and careful consideration of the impact of virtual currencies and crypto-technologies, taking into account both the advantages and underlying risks of using the technology.


See the full thing here : http://cointelegraph.com/news/eu-regulation-bitcoin-hearing  and tell us what do you think Grin

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January 26, 2016, 05:54:52 PM
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The institutions will keep ignoring Bitcoin at best for a while, but this will not be forever... if Bitcoin starts creating an economy that is outside of the GDP, you gotta be pretty delusional to think that the regulators are going to sit back and see how this happens. Nope, they will try to destroy bitcoin, this is why we must support Core, with their conservative block size approach, and not crapcoins like Classic which do nothing but weaken the node decentralization.
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January 26, 2016, 06:59:16 PM
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Once banks have a full grasp and finish tinkering with their product copy,the regulation game will go into complete drive. Right now I would think they are still 2 years out from getting serious with the idea of copying bitcoin.

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January 26, 2016, 07:22:14 PM
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Bitcoin is notorious for its use in money laundering purchasing illegal drugs and guns but it's not its fault. The people are to blame for this they should regulate the people not the virtual currencies.

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January 26, 2016, 07:42:17 PM
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Bitcoin is notorious for its use in money laundering purchasing illegal drugs and guns but it's not its fault. The people are to blame for this they should regulate the people not the virtual currencies.

Slowly this is what is happening to the world.

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January 26, 2016, 07:47:28 PM
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They never gonna believe in bitcoin because will alway remember a Silkroad experience from US..EU already have big problems with immigrants, political instability.. l think they will let it live for some time..
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January 26, 2016, 07:54:04 PM
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Bitcoin is notorious for its use in money laundering purchasing illegal drugs and guns but it's not its fault. The people are to blame for this they should regulate the people not the virtual currencies.

And so is any fiat currency around the world. Bitcoin is not even as big as the tip of the iceberg for money laundering...

To blame bitcoin for making it easier, ok. But blaming it for the problem is just stupid.

Besides, people tend to make a mistake sooner or later, such as cashing out too many bitcoins to fiat so they can be easily traced again.
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January 26, 2016, 09:10:39 PM
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"Socialism is the gradual and less violent form of communism, and socialist is the project of the European Union, which was born in Maastricht in 1992. The intent was to save socialism in Europe after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the predictable bankruptcy of the welfare state in the West as well". - Vladimir Bukovsky

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January 26, 2016, 09:42:33 PM
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This is just a general discussion with no intentions of interfering in the crypto business .I really appreciate them for taking the time out to praise the positive impacts of the virtual currencies.However I do agree there could be negative usage and probably is happening which is sort of a threat.Any steps taken further by the union is likely to impact the illegal trades,the worst could happen is,we would need to submit documents and proof to start exchanging and stuff which will destroy the anonymity .
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January 27, 2016, 02:27:58 AM
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"Socialism is the gradual and less violent form of communism, and socialist is the project of the European Union, which was born in Maastricht in 1992. The intent was to save socialism in Europe after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the predictable bankruptcy of the welfare state in the West as well". - Vladimir Bukovsky

Wherever government tries to surveil people, they are tightening the siege. They are trying to tear off people freedom.


Great post.  Socialism does not work, it impoverishes and oppresses.

Were I in Europe, I would be backing up the truck buying BTC quietly.  Buy whatever I could afford, transfer it around (include mixing!) and HODL it in a couple or more of hardware wallets.

It is now hard in the USA to buy BTC without having to show pesky ID, etc.

Get, while the gettin's good.

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Yep, the Socialists.
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January 27, 2016, 07:26:41 AM
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Once banks have a full grasp and finish tinkering with their product copy,the regulation game will go into complete drive. Right now I would think they are still 2 years out from getting serious with the idea of copying bitcoin.

You might be off with 1 year, with that prediction. These banks are already in the final stages of development for their <private ledgers> and they will go live within this year. I think Citibank were the first bank, who deployed some sort of Bitcoin based technology.

The regulation are always behind innovation and will come into full swing within say the next two years. By this time the mechanisms to influence decision makers will also be working hard to push their technology and stopping other similar technologies.

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January 27, 2016, 07:31:52 AM
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Regulating Bitcoin would be the best thing that the EU could do in the situation. Why do they want to surveil Bitcoin?
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January 27, 2016, 07:45:43 AM
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Regulating Bitcoin would be the best thing that the EU could do in the situation. Why do they want to surveil Bitcoin?
Yes, Bitcoin needs surveillance like fiat, for which succeeds being supplements of fiat! Crypto currencies are money and play the same role of our existing fiats! Regulating it is for the ppl who are using it.
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January 27, 2016, 08:24:14 AM
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Regulating Bitcoin would be the best thing that the EU could do in the situation. Why do they want to surveil Bitcoin?

because they can not regulate it immediately, they said that they need further research to identify the best regulation for bitcoin, for them for example it's not a property liek for the usa, they are working on this i believe

based bitcoin can always escape from any regulation
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January 27, 2016, 02:23:24 PM
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Easiest way for them could be banning of BTC.
But they know this is good for the economy,
 and l expecting EU will find their way in adopting bitcoin in legal business..
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January 27, 2016, 02:30:27 PM
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I am glad to hear that Sean Ennis perfectly mentioned about how less centralization like in the case of Britain having low regulatory requirements for peer-to-peer lending would let virtual currencies grow, he has also pointed out exactly how the benefits of using Virtual currencies outweighs the negatives.

But, what confuses me is that by monitoring Virtual currencies for "price volatility, platform stability, and cyber risks like theft and hacking" what are they going to achieve? Why monitor in the first place? Are the monitoring now just to regulate later?
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January 27, 2016, 03:00:53 PM
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They want nothing but the best for their stupid kids. This is why they wanna observe how true innovators and pioneers make money on the internet so they can copy them.
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January 27, 2016, 03:06:29 PM
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The banking industry fears bitcoin. They would like nothing else, than for it to simply just "dissapear", unfortunately for them, it's not going anywhere.

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January 28, 2016, 12:34:26 PM
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Let's hope everything is going to be good. They feel pressure of the people, and i'm sure they know that they can also make money from it, l don't see why they not gonna accept bitcoin like some kind of payment..
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January 30, 2016, 01:48:22 AM
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is the ideal "money of people" not the "money of government"... no government can surveil the whole world... it has started pretty small and one by one it is huge now... what our old regime made in seven centuries, Bitcoin did in seven years.


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