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June 26, 2016, 09:13:21 AM |
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What can you do to the victim ? What can be done in any case is my very hard punishment. With my solution, you prevent instead of caring. If people know how hard they will suffer, for sure they won't do it.
It has to do. Let's take the case of someone coming to the country. He gets accepted, taken care of, fed, because he's a refugee. A true one. Then, he do that. That's worst, because he's taking us for nothing, just good to serve him and let him fuck us !
I have not been raised any way. All my convictions were got from myself. You have to live with those people in order to understand that we do not belong to the same category. By the way, your third paragraph was convincing me, the little "left with ancient times" made me think that it isn't true. Ancient times are the ideals, not the thing to avoid at any cost.
You can compensate the victim. You think you are preventing but it has been found that tougher penalties do nothing to prevent further crimes of the same kind. People who want tough penalties just like the idea of harming others. Over 90% of people in the world are taken care of by someone else. So are you saying that poor people not paying taxes (using government services) should be punished more? Show me scientific proof that one human is not as human as another human. What part of the DNA is different? How can someone be proven to be sub-human? I have studied ancient criminal systems. We are far from perfect in this day and age but we have come very far in improving our criminal justice system. Unless you would like your body hung naked in the town square if you die owing debt to someone. Your focus is too much on harming someone instead of making it so that this does not happen again, and helping the victim. It has been proven, in several countries and at several eras, that death penalty has a psychological effet. Would still ghettos robbers steal if they are caught we cut one of their hand and we do not simply give them a one month prison penalty ? Look the criminality growth in France after death penalty was removed. What I meant with the refugee was that it is worst, because we take care of him and is moking of us. Also, by accepting him here without any control, this mean that the political leader is responsible. All the humans do not have the exact same DNA, or why would have some differences ? The haplogroup is one of exemples, and the best correlation of the geographical racialism (not racism). In the ancient systems, a crime was seen as a crime, not as something that can happen to everyone and can be tolerated. If someone who kills an innocent got burned alive in public place instead of going 10 years in a nice little prison, where he got television and gets fed for free, you can be sure that there will have less candidates ! Forget the criminal, he deserves to die. The aim is to protect the innocent people. By killing the dangerous guys in order to afraid the other, you achieve a society where there's a sense of safeness. Your race to torture humans and seeing certain humans as subhumans says more about you than anything. You may want to re-think your thoughts on corporal punishment as it is highly likely that your obvious instincts to inflict pain will take hold some day and you will find yourself on the other side of the law. I have no instincts of pain. I just find that this is the best way of preventing such crimes. The aim is to make such events don't happen anymore, not to make the criminal reinserted in the society. Tell me, do you live in a big occidental country, such as France, Germany or England, but best is France ?
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June 26, 2016, 08:40:29 PM |
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I have no instincts of pain. I just find that this is the best way of preventing such crimes. The aim is to make such events don't happen anymore, not to make the criminal reinserted in the society. Tell me, do you live in a big occidental country, such as France, Germany or England, but best is France ?
I am an individual human living on Earth. You can try to categorize me however you like to aid in your intellectual laziness.
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Losvienleg
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June 26, 2016, 10:32:36 PM |
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I have no instincts of pain. I just find that this is the best way of preventing such crimes. The aim is to make such events don't happen anymore, not to make the criminal reinserted in the society. Tell me, do you live in a big occidental country, such as France, Germany or England, but best is France ?
I am an individual human living on Earth. You can try to categorize me however you like to aid in your intellectual laziness. Well, now if you go to some places, like Paris' banlieue or Marseille's quartiers nords, what you'll find there is amazing. You go in Islam land, where firefighters received rocks on the head, where there's gun fights every day... Suprisingly, people there are majoritarily Muslims, and black or coming from Maghreb. These people have no way to be saved. That was for the subhuman thing. However, in their country, they would not be subhumans, just the regular citizens of such attarded places.
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June 27, 2016, 08:05:16 AM |
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I have no instincts of pain. I just find that this is the best way of preventing such crimes. The aim is to make such events don't happen anymore, not to make the criminal reinserted in the society. Tell me, do you live in a big occidental country, such as France, Germany or England, but best is France ?
I am an individual human living on Earth. You can try to categorize me however you like to aid in your intellectual laziness. Well, now if you go to some places, like Paris' banlieue or Marseille's quartiers nords, what you'll find there is amazing. You go in Islam land, where firefighters received rocks on the head, where there's gun fights every day... Suprisingly, people there are majoritarily Muslims, and black or coming from Maghreb. These people have no way to be saved. That was for the subhuman thing. However, in their country, they would not be subhumans, just the regular citizens of such attarded places. They are not subhumans. They are individuals. Humans. I assumed from your statements on punishment that you were muslim. It sounds like their types of rules. Have you considered converting? You would be very welcome.
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June 27, 2016, 08:26:02 AM |
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Had a discussion with friends over this while we drink inside a bar. so should women be blamed for wearing daring dress like showing their belly button and cleavage why they got raped?
What an utter stupid and inflammatory argument ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) The "why", on why part, is because of the rapist. Not because of something/someone else. Go and try to have such a "discussion", 1-on-1, with someone actually raped. If you ought to be a sensible human being to some degree, I'll bet you'll discover that such a discussion won't be a discussion at all. In India 48% of womens are raped in Burkhas which clearifies that the reason of women's rape is not because of thier dress. We can imagine that people in burkhas where a ladies whole body is fully covered and no signs of sexual attraction to male, however some criminal even rape such ladies and simply explain the term as men's incompetence.
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Losvienleg
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June 27, 2016, 06:41:36 PM |
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I have no instincts of pain. I just find that this is the best way of preventing such crimes. The aim is to make such events don't happen anymore, not to make the criminal reinserted in the society. Tell me, do you live in a big occidental country, such as France, Germany or England, but best is France ?
I am an individual human living on Earth. You can try to categorize me however you like to aid in your intellectual laziness. Well, now if you go to some places, like Paris' banlieue or Marseille's quartiers nords, what you'll find there is amazing. You go in Islam land, where firefighters received rocks on the head, where there's gun fights every day... Suprisingly, people there are majoritarily Muslims, and black or coming from Maghreb. These people have no way to be saved. That was for the subhuman thing. However, in their country, they would not be subhumans, just the regular citizens of such attarded places. They are not subhumans. They are individuals. Humans. I assumed from your statements on punishment that you were muslim. It sounds like their types of rules. Have you considered converting? You would be very welcome. Their behavior is uncivilised. I will never but never throw rocks on the firefighters that are here to save people from the next house (well, more building for them). My punishments are the only way to prevent such type of acts in the world of laxism where those guys grown.
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June 28, 2016, 09:05:13 AM |
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I have no instincts of pain. I just find that this is the best way of preventing such crimes. The aim is to make such events don't happen anymore, not to make the criminal reinserted in the society. Tell me, do you live in a big occidental country, such as France, Germany or England, but best is France ?
I am an individual human living on Earth. You can try to categorize me however you like to aid in your intellectual laziness. Well, now if you go to some places, like Paris' banlieue or Marseille's quartiers nords, what you'll find there is amazing. You go in Islam land, where firefighters received rocks on the head, where there's gun fights every day... Suprisingly, people there are majoritarily Muslims, and black or coming from Maghreb. These people have no way to be saved. That was for the subhuman thing. However, in their country, they would not be subhumans, just the regular citizens of such attarded places. They are not subhumans. They are individuals. Humans. I assumed from your statements on punishment that you were muslim. It sounds like their types of rules. Have you considered converting? You would be very welcome. Their behavior is uncivilised. I will never but never throw rocks on the firefighters that are here to save people from the next house (well, more building for them). My punishments are the only way to prevent such type of acts in the world of laxism where those guys grown. From the Quran: "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication - flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment." "A man committed fornication with a woman. So the Apostle of Allah ordered regarding him and the prescribed punishment of flogging was inflicted on him. He was then informed that he was married. So he commanded regarding him and he was stoned to death." "As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power." "If he is intoxicated, flog him; again if he is intoxicated, flog him; again if he is intoxicated, flog him if he does it again a fourth time, kill him."
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June 28, 2016, 04:02:39 PM |
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yes it is a fact that the dress of the women are the biggest reason of their rapping. and then we blamed men for this. i think women themselves are responsible for their rap. they should not exposed themselves in sexual dress and should not expose their sacred organs which then men cannot bare and compel them for gambling.
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June 29, 2016, 08:48:28 AM |
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yes it is a fact that the dress of the women are the biggest reason of their rapping. and then we blamed men for this. i think women themselves are responsible for their rap. they should not exposed themselves in sexual dress and should not expose their sacred organs which then men cannot bare and compel them for gambling.
Many female rappers expose a lot of skin. Except Queen Latifah because nobody wants that.
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June 29, 2016, 09:43:19 AM |
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Had a discussion with friends over this while we drink inside a bar. so should women be blamed for wearing daring dress like showing their belly button and cleavage why they got raped?
women should not be blamed, man should blamed his mind. control your mind, not them.
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June 29, 2016, 10:40:37 AM |
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Whatever theory, law, psychology and logic say... into practice rape exists and it's a truth that Humans have known from antiquity because of abuse to deal with the intimate relation for different shared reasons (non respect, isolation, unconsciousness about limits and risks...) For women (as victims), they should be conscious about this truth and do their best to avoid it without harming their daily basis. For example, if they have the choice between walking through two streets (whatever what they are wearing) and one of them is known to be full of bad boys, they can choose the secure one to minimize risk. For men, even if you receive a call, you can either reject it or say Hello nice to meet you ... but not going to steal the phone of the caller ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I mean that there are kind ways to do it and rape is the cruelest and the least enjoying one. So, think before acting!!!
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June 29, 2016, 12:16:53 PM Last edit: June 29, 2016, 01:12:19 PM by Jmild1 |
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Whatever theory, law, psychology and logic say... into practice rape exists and it's a truth that Humans have known from antiquity because of abuse to deal with the intimate relation for different shared reasons (non respect, isolation, unconsciousness about limits and risks...) For women (as victims), they should be conscious about this truth and do their best to avoid it without harming their daily basis. For example, if they have the choice between walking through two streets (whatever what they are wearing) and one of them is known to be full of bad boys, they can choose the secure one to minimize risk. For men, even if you receive a call, you can either reject it or say Hello nice to meet you ... but not going to steal the phone of the caller ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . I mean that there are kind ways to do it and rape is the cruelest and the least enjoying one. So, think before acting!!! You can teach a young child to grow being a good a person. That's how I think religion affect most of old guys nowadays, they are being indoctrinated when they are young that this kind of behavior is tolerable as long as it violates their religion. Like islam, once you wear a whore clothes then don't be surprise to get rape.
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June 29, 2016, 12:50:45 PM |
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Self-control is one of the things what make us somewhat different from animals. Those who can't control themselves, should be educated and/or get a proper treatment to improve. Hopeless cases should go to a zoo ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Damn straight! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Masha Sha
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June 29, 2016, 02:09:27 PM |
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Can the female human takes autonomous decisions?
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June 29, 2016, 02:22:59 PM |
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Can the female human takes autonomous decisions?
Of course? Female has mind to think of theirself and male has mind too to think wisely. But I still don't know what you're trying to say...
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Masha Sha
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June 29, 2016, 02:24:56 PM |
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Can the female human takes autonomous decisions?
Of course? Female has mind to think of theirself and male has mind too to think wisely. But I still don't know what you're trying to say... That I don't know a single female who broke the boundaries of reality... Please one single... Femal = selectioned to conform... All the others are already in the afterlife ;-).
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June 29, 2016, 04:02:25 PM |
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Can the female human takes autonomous decisions?
Of course? Female has mind to think of theirself and male has mind too to think wisely. But I still don't know what you're trying to say... That I don't know a single female who broke the boundaries of reality... Please one single... Femal = selectioned to conform... All the others are already in the afterlife ;-). Trying to understand what you're trying to say, but I don't know what you guys are talking about. How is this even relatable with OP's question?
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Masha Sha
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June 29, 2016, 09:12:52 PM |
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Can the female human takes autonomous decisions?
Of course? Female has mind to think of theirself and male has mind too to think wisely. But I still don't know what you're trying to say... That I don't know a single female who broke the boundaries of reality... Please one single... Femal = selectioned to conform... All the others are already in the afterlife ;-). Trying to understand what you're trying to say, but I don't know what you guys are talking about. How is this even relatable with OP's question? If they can't think independently, they can't be responsible for their actions... Like a very young child.
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June 29, 2016, 09:32:18 PM |
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Can the female human takes autonomous decisions?
Of course? Female has mind to think of theirself and male has mind too to think wisely. But I still don't know what you're trying to say... That I don't know a single female who broke the boundaries of reality... Please one single... Femal = selectioned to conform... All the others are already in the afterlife ;-). Trying to understand what you're trying to say, but I don't know what you guys are talking about. How is this even relatable with OP's question? i think the question is too simple to understand. the question is that either the women for responsible for their rape, as they are wearing such kind of clothes which attract men to rape. i think mostly yes. if they are exposing their body to men then what can me do. the women should hide their body from men. they should wear hijab in which they can be safe.
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Jmild1
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June 30, 2016, 02:52:04 PM |
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Can the female human takes autonomous decisions?
Of course? Female has mind to think of theirself and male has mind too to think wisely. But I still don't know what you're trying to say... That I don't know a single female who broke the boundaries of reality... Please one single... Femal = selectioned to conform... All the others are already in the afterlife ;-). Trying to understand what you're trying to say, but I don't know what you guys are talking about. How is this even relatable with OP's question? i think the question is too simple to understand. the question is that either the women for responsible for their rape, as they are wearing such kind of clothes which attract men to rape. i think mostly yes. if they are exposing their body to men then what can me do. the women should hide their body from men. they should wear hijab in which they can be safe. So why people don't want to rape those people that wear 2 piece on the beach. Don't try to defend stupid people, you think women is the who's going to adjust with what you want?
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