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January 30, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
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Great job. So you were tryna localise where the bloke was from based on his writing habits, found 4 grammatically localised spellings out of hundreds of posts and you jumped to a conclusion. That's ace.

Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.

lol  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy get some shrimp on the barbie, its cold here in Ireland  Wink
Here in Taiwan it was pretty cold, too, last week. it even snowed in some places, which is truly an exceptional phenomenon, for an island located on Tropic of Cancer. Now it's gotten back to normal though: a light sweater does the trick  Grin.
Anyway, my point is that anyone who learned English as a second language to a reasonable level of proficiency could write like a native from whichever region they like. Learning how to speak with a proper regional accent is harder in my view, but the writing part can easily be fulfilled.
Satoshi is highly proficient in English but that doesn't make him an English speaker.

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January 30, 2016, 02:08:25 PM
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I respect ur findings but this is not conclusive.He might be a UK born but resides in some other country.
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January 30, 2016, 02:51:29 PM
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That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that Wink

Satoshi may be the mastermind behind bitcoin but even then thats not to say that his spelling might be poor. Its a good idea looking into spelling as clues but even people i know from the uk get confused with spelling and use us versions over uk ones . Probably not conclusive proof.

Generally if someone excels in computers and maths they do poorly in English writing skills because they spent most of their time learning programming. Most medical doctors spend at the minimum seven years doing medical training, but most of them write in illegible handwriting on prescriptions. Satoshi is a genius programmer, but said his writing skills weren't as good as his programming skills. He's probably awful at spelling, and used the default US spell checker in his browser.
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January 30, 2016, 03:10:33 PM
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That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that Wink

Satoshi may be the mastermind behind bitcoin but even then thats not to say that his spelling might be poor. Its a good idea looking into spelling as clues but even people i know from the uk get confused with spelling and use us versions over uk ones . Probably not conclusive proof.

Generally if someone excels in computers and maths they do poorly in English writing skills because they spent most of their time learning programming. Most medical doctors spend at the minimum seven years doing medical training, but most of them write in illegible handwriting on prescriptions. Satoshi is a genius programmer, but said his writing skills weren't as good as his programming skills. He's probably awful at spelling, and used the default US spell checker in his browser.
I can't say for sure because as far as things go I'm not a programmer, but I heard that the first version of bitcoin wasn't so well coded? Satoshi is a genius inventor. That doesn't make him a genius programmer. I might be mistaken though, because I really can't say for myself if indeed the earliest versions of bitcoin were badly coded or not.
Your post still makes me think about these teenagers referring to Kurt Cobain as one of the greatest guitar players of all time, though. There's nothing more wrong than that. Technically speaking the guy wasn't properly speaking nowhere but really, he wasn't so great. But he had a genius for song writing, though. He was truly a master at that.
All this to say that these things are generally not connected. Mastering a means of expression doesn't make you creative, and inversely, being creative doesn't make you a technical master.

Besides, I've found that non-English speaking programmers usually had a pretty good written English, on average. This has to do with the fact that almost all the relevant information regarding computing is in English and so they read English on a regular basis. It's the same for chemists, physicists, doctors, and a lot of other specialists. Besides, if they do researches, they usually like to publish their papers in English, regardless of their native language, because it brings the potential audience to higher summits.

(And also, doctors write badly on purpose, so that average people can't read what is prescribed  Cheesy).

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January 30, 2016, 03:12:45 PM
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I am confused, what is the point of all this?
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January 30, 2016, 03:23:16 PM
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One thing that may need to be considered is that Satoshi Nakamoto may not have even been formally educated.  He may have been self taught...or learned in a monastery...or spent time in exile reading and coding.  That would explain the informal approach he took to programming and it would explain his isolationism.
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January 30, 2016, 03:43:34 PM
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Anyone nowadays can speak and write proper English without actually coming from an country where they have English has their primary language.
It doesn't really matter to me anymore who Satoshi is, yes I am curious but I think it's best for bitcoin and Satoshi to stay anonymous.
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January 30, 2016, 03:47:49 PM
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Those are some nice indicators to determine the kind of English Satoshi speaks. But another question is aren't whitepapers usually approved or edited by some editors? And also, I'd like to know even if we did know he was North American, and did try to triangulate his location it still would be hard to filter it further.
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January 30, 2016, 03:53:09 PM
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Let's say his married with a North American person and he dictated to her {or the other way around}? We could also consider that it was a group of

people with one individual responsible for the communication. So you just managed to possibly identify one person from the group. There were a bunch

of analysis done on his writing and when it was done, and they came up with nothing. Let it go...  Roll Eyes

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January 30, 2016, 04:01:11 PM
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You shouldn't believe everything that comes out. Maybe Satoshi is trying to mislead everyone so that it will be harder to find out who he/she/they are.
I am completely fine with that. Look at what happened to all the people that came out to claim that they are Satoshi. Governments will be after them.

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January 30, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
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Here's some HARD TRUTH about the identity.....no one cares!!!
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January 30, 2016, 06:31:27 PM
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Pretty sure when he mentions "we", he is referring to, either the miners/general users/community, don't think it means it was group of people but that's just my opinion.

I am confused, what is the point of all this?

Apparently, this will help closing down the location.

 

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January 30, 2016, 06:35:56 PM
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And what about the possibility that Satoshi used the American English to make us think that he come from North America ? I'm sure that he even don't come from an English-speaking country. About the use of "we", an user said on another topic that it was the "royal we". As for me, I proposed that he was talking for the whole Bitcoin community. By the way, I don't know why there is so many topics talking about Satoshi's identity today.
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January 30, 2016, 09:24:12 PM
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It is a common practice to write "We" when they release a paper. You can pick any published paper, you would find "We propose"
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January 30, 2016, 09:39:16 PM
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That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that Wink

True, I would think that an intelligent person like Satoshi would know enough to code his language.  It is not hard, with the internet, to easily fake being from a location.  I would expect that Satoshi would deliberately throw off his trail.

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January 30, 2016, 10:12:36 PM
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Pretty sure when he mentions "we", he is referring to, either the miners/general users/community, don't think it means it was group of people but that's just my opinion.

I am confused, what is the point of all this?

Apparently, this will help closing down the location.

I'm quite surprised and confused with the second part of OP post.  Huh

Is the use of "we" supposed to prove that Satoshi is a group of person and not a single individual ?

I don't know how it works in english, because it's not my mothertongue, but in french we usually use the "we" even for only 1 person if it is in an "academic paper" to present an idea or a project. The use of "We" instead of "I" is supposed to increase objectivity  and distance between the author and what he says...

So from my point of view, it doesn't mean Satoshi is a group of person, but he could have an european academic background if it helps with you Sherlock Holmes job  Grin
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January 30, 2016, 10:39:49 PM
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Great effort, annalysing the way of writting to get closer to the real identity...

Is there any handwritten piece of text by him? Handwritting could also be analysed to get more clues.

Just brainstorming.

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January 30, 2016, 11:05:09 PM
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Great effort, annalysing the way of writting to get closer to the real identity...

Is there any handwritten piece of text by him? Handwritting could also be analysed to get more clues.

Just brainstorming.

No, unfortunatly, I'm sure that there's no handwritten text from him since he stayed anonymous all the time.
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January 30, 2016, 11:37:27 PM
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Honestly i dont care about satoshis identity does not matter how rich he is or how many BTC he have

and i dont understand why people are after his identity ?

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January 30, 2016, 11:41:54 PM
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Your research and findings make for good reading but they serve no purpose.Even if we find which country Satoshi belongs to,locating his whereabouts is still not possible.

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