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January 30, 2016, 08:12:11 AM
Last edit: January 30, 2016, 11:10:38 AM by NyeFe
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 We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "

"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"

"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"

"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.

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if you check his white paper that is not confined to the crappy web browser racist spellchecker.. where it gives us UK folk more freedom to talk how we brits want. then you will see that he writes like a brit.

From bitcoin.pdf at bitcoin. org

"realizes" — English (UK) version — "realises"

"characterized"— English (UK) version — "characterised"

'"tape",' — English (UK) version — "tape,"

"we propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed" - use of we (group of people)

"we propose begins with a timestamp server" - use of we (group of people)

"we will need to use a proof-of-work system similar to Adam Back's Hashcash [6]," - use of we (group of people)

"we don't care about later attempts to double-spend" - use of we (group of people)

"We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures." - use of we (group of people)

We did not find any evidence of the letter I; The final references on the white paper suggests someone else "we, " was involved in the research and documentation of this paper — at least someone that seems to be from UK.

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January 30, 2016, 08:28:54 AM
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Great job. So you were tryna localise where the bloke was from based on his writing habits, found 4 grammatically localised spellings out of hundreds of posts and you jumped to a conclusion. That's ace.

Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.

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January 30, 2016, 08:51:51 AM
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We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

"'-disablesafemode,'", - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "

"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"

"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"

"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.

this one what i never think before,such great idea finding satoshi nakamoto's real identity by analyzing his code,but do you ever realize some people do use mixed accent for speaking?

Great question. It's good to see some logical analysis of these results. I did consider lots of various possibilities, and other countries but UK and US has always been the main contenders. So, it seemed much more probable that someone who uses US grammar throught most of his work, if not all, would have been from somewhere within North America.

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January 30, 2016, 08:53:11 AM
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I don't know if i really want to know who satoshi is.
He wants to stay anonymous and ta is clear for me.
I only hope his baby will continue to grow.
Speculations about his identity can be dangerous, especially about his stash..
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January 30, 2016, 09:30:14 AM
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What if Satoshi was from he UK but used American-English vocabulary to decieve the Internet detectives?
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January 30, 2016, 09:35:04 AM
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That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that Wink

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January 30, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
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That's some real detective stuff. However do note that Satoshi is intelligent. And he could pleace fake clues so people can believe that and that Wink

Satoshi may be the mastermind behind bitcoin but even then thats not to say that his spelling might be poor. Its a good idea looking into spelling as clues but even people i know from the uk get confused with spelling and use us versions over uk ones . Probably not conclusive proof.

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January 30, 2016, 09:41:53 AM
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We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

"'-disablesafemode,'" - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "

"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"

"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"

"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.


Well, that does it!  We need to call in an expert to find out where this guy is from.  Will somebody get Noam Chomsky on the line please.  We have questions that need answers....LOL

I don't know if an analysis of spelling on browser based forums could accurately reach a conclusion in this matter due to that little red line that changes UK spellings to US spellings in the browsers.  We could, however, probably pin point a geographical origin thru linguistics....as opposed to spelling.
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January 30, 2016, 09:43:19 AM
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We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

"'-disablesafemode,'" - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "

"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"

"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"

"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.



In my opinion, Satoshi is not just a person, it is a team of person partnered together privately without others knowing. The bitcoin maybe also owned by the partners but every one of the partners own a part private keys only. Even if you found one of the partners, you will unable to open the wallet. The reason Satoshi is still anonymous is because we do not have about information about it. Is it just a person, or a group, or even an AI surpassed the technology at that time created the bitcoin(although it is absurd.)
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January 30, 2016, 09:46:31 AM
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We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

"'-disablesafemode,'" - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "

"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"

"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"

"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.


great idea of locating what is his nationality, but i wouldnt count 4 words on his 575 post as a hard proof of his nationality, but i think youre on to something here.
great work.

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January 30, 2016, 10:11:25 AM
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Seem like we get deeper and deeper just to find out who he really is.
I believe is still here and for he development of bitcoin i think finding him can be concider important. I truley think finding him its an exciting game Smiley

But why dont we jsut assume he doesn't use any VPN or Tor and lets ask about checking his IP.

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January 30, 2016, 10:17:44 AM
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I don't think the way of writing is the enough evidence to prove someone is from North America. It can be an intentional change to hide the actual identity.

But I don't understand that why people are behind him?? Enjoy Bitcoin and let him live his life. That sounds fair..isn't it?

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January 30, 2016, 10:22:44 AM
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Great job. So you were tryna localise where the bloke was from based on his writing habits, found 4 grammatically localised spellings out of hundreds of posts and you jumped to a conclusion. That's ace.

Protip for next time: I'm not Australian, mate.

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January 30, 2016, 10:22:52 AM
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Well it is one way to know the language setting put on the Windows PC
By default it looks like Satoshi ran a UK version of spellcheck and presumably the same language pack.
(Of course that's if he was using windows he-he)

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January 30, 2016, 10:25:11 AM
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I don't think the way of writing is the enough evidence to prove someone is from North America. It can be an intentional change to hide the actual identity.

But I don't understand that why people are behind him?? Enjoy Bitcoin and let him live his life. That sounds fair..isn't it?

Agreed, it is better if the identity of satoshi remains unknown
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January 30, 2016, 10:28:39 AM
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We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.

im from the UK too and in my head, i spell realised with an S.. but this irritating web browser puts a red line under the word forcing me to use a Z instead of an S.

if you check his white paper that is not confined to the crappy web browser racist spellchecker.. where it gives us UK folk more freedom to talk how we brits want. then you will see that he writes like a brit.

so analysing forum posts fails, if you dont take the american spell checker defaulted into the browser into context
(i avoided auto-correct, purely to make a point)

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January 30, 2016, 11:06:29 AM
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We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "
"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"
"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"
"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.

im from the UK too and in my head, i spell realised with an S.. but this irritating web browser puts a red line under the word forcing me to use a Z instead of an S.

if you check his white paper that is not confined to the crappy web browser racist spellchecker.. where it gives us UK folk more freedom to talk how we brits want. then you will see that he writes like a brit.

so analysing forum posts fails, if you dont take the american spell checker defaulted into the browser into context
(i avoided auto-correct, purely to make a point)

This is a great point. Edits have been made.

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January 30, 2016, 11:20:18 AM
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We was so proud that Satoshi was probably from the UK. But it seems not.

The hard truth is that Satoshi is "North American, " if that's still in question.

We took some time to analyse, simple grammatical structures used, in his various 575 variants of informal posts. Here what we found.

'"-disablesafemode",' - post 1. English (UK) version - "-disablesafemode, "

"realized" - post 15. English (UK) version - "realised"

"criticized" - post 20. English (UK) version - "criticised"

"minimized" - post 525. English (UK) version - "minimised"

I'm certain we could use this same trick to triangulate his location, but, that task is for someone else to accomplish - if at all necessary.

Edit...

if you check his white paper that is not confined to the crappy web browser racist spellchecker.. where it gives us UK folk more freedom to talk how we brits want. then you will see that he writes like a brit.

From bitcoin.pdf at bitcoin. org

"realizes" — English (UK) version — "realises"

"characterized"— English (UK) version — "characterised"

'"tape",' — English (UK) version — "tape,"

"we propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer distributed" - use of we (group of people)

"we propose begins with a timestamp server" - use of we (group of people)

"we will need to use a proof-of-work system similar to Adam Back's Hashcash [6]," - use of we (group of people)

"we don't care about later attempts to double-spend" - use of we (group of people)

"We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures." - use of we (group of people)

We did not find any evidence of the letter I; The final references on the white paper suggests someone else "we, " was involved in the research and documentation of this paper — at least someone that seems to be from UK.



That's BS. In 99,9% of academic papers, the author uses the pronomn we when referring to him or herself. It's a way to show respect both to colleagues and professors. But it doesn't mean it was written by more than one person.

I personally believe it was made by a group, but I don't need this fragile "facts" to support that idea.
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January 30, 2016, 12:22:15 PM
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Why nobody call him to show up and this whole mystery will be gone.
Maybe he could appear on youtube with mask?
 But then he could be yet another anonymous guy?
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January 30, 2016, 12:23:58 PM
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Why nobody call him to show up and this whole mystery will be gone.
Maybe he could appear on youtube with mask?
 But then he could be yet another anonymous guy?

If he/she could prove why is Satoshi (not this kind of stupid proofs we see around here everyday, but REAL proof), then the mystery would be solved.

He or she is loosing a revolutionary potential his/hers words would have in the financial market as a whole.
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