Can the price increase if the userbase saty the same ?

[Erkallys]

A price increase is predicted by most of the users, including me. With such an event, this is possible that the price rise. However, in common times, with no special events, can it rise too ? I was wondering if the userbase stay the same until the enext halving, could it be possible that the price rise ? Maybe some of you have the answer ?

[simon66]

If the number of users doesn't increase but the amount invested per user and use per user do increase then I think that would still lead to an increase in price.

[gentlemand]

Trader base is a whole lot more important that user base in terms of price. The people who are actively buying and selling, let alone those who have the clout to influence the price, is probably a pretty small fraction. If more existing users started to play markets more often then you'd see movement.

[Erkallys]

Trader base is a whole lot more important that user base in terms of price. The people who are actively buying and selling, let alone those who have the clout to influence the price, is probably a pretty small fraction. If more existing users started to play markets more often then you'd see movement.

Having some movements is a thing, having a stable price increase is another one. So if more users convert themselves into traders, this could lead to a price increase ?

[a7mos]

It is a supply and demand market. So more users means more supply and more supply will lead to price increase. So I believe that the main factor that will lead to increase bitcoin price is the more adoptors it got

[richardsNY]

It can easily happen. I think it's already happening right now. The influx of new users is very small but the amount of new money flowing into Bitcoin is what I consider to be the most important aspect. As long as there is money flowing into Bitcoin, then the price will rise without any problems.

[Lutzow]

Provided there'll be more funds that the current userbase will be willing to spend.

[Lituation]

Yes, it's possible. Normally user base is growing every day but there's no exact correlation between price and user base raise. If speculators want to rise the price they don't need new blood. Only if the price rises more people get attention of Bitcoin and user base will raise too.

[romero121]

Once the user base gets increased simultaneously tremendous growth can be found. When the user base increases automatically the accumulated bitcoin flow increases or come to circulation. This release of huge accumulations due to increased user base will surely increase bitcoin priceōì

[Swordsoffreedom]

A price increase is predicted by most of the users, including me. With such an event, this is possible that the price rise. However, in common times, with no special events, can it rise too ? I was wondering if the userbase stay the same until the enext halving, could it be possible that the price rise ? Maybe some of you have the answer ?

Sure if supply changes or diffussion gets impacted meaning more users have bitcoins but some do not spend them and keep them in storage.
Like any fixed supply economy it can change based on internal metrics as well.

[OC19850520]

The price will stay the same if you ask me.
Lets say that the userbase stays the same after the halving; no new miners, no new bitcoin users everything remains just the way it was the moment this sentence was written then the price would not increase after the halving because although the supply has dropped the demand will remain the same. The lack of adoption will not cause the price to reduce because the supply has already dropped.

[SFR10]

I believe the deciding factor for this would be more of a demand as opposed to the user base itself. Users could stay the same or even reduced but if the demand increases, the price will increase as well regardless of having less or same user base. A little correction on the title of the thread "saty" to stay

[Amph]

yeah because you only need few rich people to increase the value to 10k or even more, but for crzy value like 1M you need massive adoption there is no other way around

i think the former can bring more the latter

[steveds]

If some MNC's start paying or offering their service in bitcoin then they would buy tons and it might eventually increase the price but they dont create accounts on bitcointalk and thus it has no affect over the user base or the amount of people but the amount of $ going in.

[bearex]

I think yes. But not by that much. The real increase comes with more users getting BTC.

[n2004al]

A price increase is predicted by most of the users, including me. With such an event, this is possible that the price rise. However, in common times, with no special events, can it rise too ? I was wondering if the userbase stay the same until the enext halving, could it be possible that the price rise ? Maybe some of you have the answer ?

Sure that can increased. It was enough that this user base buy more than before and the price for sure will increased. The demand (the increase of which bring even increase of price) cannot be higher only by the spread of user base (which, to tell the right, is the best high in order to have sustainability or/and stability of increase of price) but even from the increase of the amount bought by the same user base.

It is normal and easy to understand that if today are bought 100 bitcoin within a day and tomorrow are asked to be bought 1000 bitcoin the price for sure will increased. Maybe not today by the next day (if the increase persist) for sure yes. It is the same like 900 new users equal of the existing ones enter as new ones in the market.

[1Referee]

Large userbase means nothing to the price. 95% of the people are small fishes that contribute next to nothing to the price. We need investors with deep pocket, even if they are the far minority, these people can move mountains. 1-2% is ruling the price with iron fist, and the other 3-5% are whales that can manipulate a certain exchange well enough to make millions in profit every year. And the other 95% are clowns.

[Erkallys]

Large userbase means nothing to the price. 95% of the people are small fishes that contribute next to nothing to the price. We need investors with deep pocket, even if they are the far minority, these people can move mountains. 1-2% is ruling the price with iron fist, and the other 3-5% are whales that can manipulate a certain exchange well enough to make millions in profit every year. And the other 95% are clowns.

I love your comparisons ! This was not exactly what I asked. You say that we need big players, but I asked if no more big players nor regular guys fall in love with Bitcoin, will it be possible for the price to increase ?

[1Referee]

Large userbase means nothing to the price. 95% of the people are small fishes that contribute next to nothing to the price. We need investors with deep pocket, even if they are the far minority, these people can move mountains. 1-2% is ruling the price with iron fist, and the other 3-5% are whales that can manipulate a certain exchange well enough to make millions in profit every year. And the other 95% are clowns.

I love your comparisons ! This was not exactly what I asked. You say that we need big players, but I asked if no more big players nor regular guys fall in love with Bitcoin, will it be possible for the price to increase ?

In the OP I can't find this back.

A price increase is predicted by most of the users, including me. With such an event, this is possible that the price rise. However, in common times, with no special events, can it rise too ? I was wondering if the userbase stay the same until the enext halving, could it be possible that the price rise ? Maybe some of you have the answer ?

Anyway, to answer your question. If no more whales and wealthy investors join the Bitcoin camp, then it still possible to see the price increase, but in the long term we will see the price go down and down. Even existing whales and wealthy investors will leave the market when there is no new money comming into Bitcoin.

[Erkallys]

Large userbase means nothing to the price. 95% of the people are small fishes that contribute next to nothing to the price. We need investors with deep pocket, even if they are the far minority, these people can move mountains. 1-2% is ruling the price with iron fist, and the other 3-5% are whales that can manipulate a certain exchange well enough to make millions in profit every year. And the other 95% are clowns.

I love your comparisons ! This was not exactly what I asked. You say that we need big players, but I asked if no more big players nor regular guys fall in love with Bitcoin, will it be possible for the price to increase ?

In the OP I can't find this back.

A price increase is predicted by most of the users, including me. With such an event, this is possible that the price rise. However, in common times, with no special events, can it rise too ? I was wondering if the userbase stay the same until the enext halving, could it be possible that the price rise ? Maybe some of you have the answer ?

Anyway, to answer your question. If no more whales and wealthy investors join the Bitcoin camp, then it still possible to see the price increase, but in the long term we will see the price go down and down. Even existing whales and wealthy investors will leave the market when there is no new money comming into Bitcoin.

So this mean that the invested money in Bitcoin don't increase, the price will have to crash someday ? A scheme like this one can't run forever.