Gun freedom advocates - what weapons shouldn't be legally available?

[wdmw]

And as I'm sure someone has pointed out already.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw ..a possible solution to a number of problems

Bullet control is already happening.  Have you tried to buy ammo recently?

That's not intentional, say, through a tax or the like, it's just supply and demand at work.

I'm implying that the gaps in supply are due to http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/

[myrkul]

And as I'm sure someone has pointed out already.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZrFVtmRXrw ..a possible solution to a number of problems

Bullet control is already happening.  Have you tried to buy ammo recently?

That's not intentional, say, through a tax or the like, it's just supply and demand at work.

I'm implying that the gaps in supply are due to http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/

Seems an odd way to go about reducing the supply...

[Korbman]

I'm surprised this thread is still going..though admittedly I haven't kept up with all the pages.

The thread hit its zenith at posts 241 to 255. I think they're a must read. Otherwise it's mostly the same points and ideas rehashed as early on in the thread, with many posters thinking its a pro vs anti guns thread.

Just went back and read them. I had a good chuckle while recognizing the analogies ..good stuff.

[Dabs]

Pop Quiz:

Is it morally correct for a police officer to shoot in order to save an innocent victim from an attack?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No

If no police officer is present is it morally correct for the innocent victim to shoot to protect self or dependents from an attack?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No

The proper response to a drive-by shooting is...
[ ] prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the car used by the perpetrator.
[ ] prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying the type of the gun used by the perpetrator.
[ ] prosecute the perpetrator of the crime

The proper response to an arson is...
[ ] prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying gasoline.
[ ] prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying any flammable fluids, matches and lighters.
[ ] prosecute the perpetrator of the crime

The proper response to electronic fraud...
[ ] prohibit you and other law-abiding citizens from buying computers.
[ ] limit you and other law-abiding citizens to computers that have no more than two of the following features: 1GHz or faster processor, 1 mbps  or faster internet connection, 8GB or more RAM, 1TB or larger hard drive.
[ ] prohibit use of decentralized virtual currencies or heavily regulate them
[ ] prosecute the perpetrator of the crime

If I am confronted with a life-threatening situation, police will ______ be there in time to prevent any damage.
[ ] always
[ ] possibly
[ ] unlikely

If my child or my spouse were assaulted, I would...
[ ] run away and hope my kid or spouse can keep up with me
[ ] be a good witness so I can tell the cops what happened later
[ ] try to convince the attacker to stop through verbal persuasion
[ ] fight to stop the attack

If I choose to resist, my primary concern would be...
[ ] health of my attacker
[ ] my own safety

Given a choice, I would prefer to defend myself with...
[ ] my bare hands
[ ] an ineffective weapon, such as pepper spray
[ ] an effective weapon, such as a firearm

If defending myself with a firearm, I would want the magazine to hold...
[ ] one round
[ ] six rounds
[ ] ten rounds
[ ] 30 rounds

Police officers carry high-capacity handguns and store shotguns or submachine guns in patrol cars because...
[ ] the cops are evil and want to kill innocents.
[ ] police deparments cannot afford tanks.
[ ] such firearms are effective means of self-defense.

If all guns were outlawed, I think that all criminals would...
[ ] turn in their weapons to police and become model citizens.
[ ] turn in their guns and beg for small change
[ ] keep their guns and prey on disarmed law-abiding people.

A rapist choosing between two victims (one armed, one unarmed), would prefer to...
[ ] attack the armed one, so he could "take her gun and use it against her".
[ ] attack the unarmed one because that would be less hazardous.
[ ] not to mess with either, as he can't tell which one is armed.

First Amendment to the US Constitution:
[ ] Authorizes free speech for official State news agencies.
[ ] Protects the individual's right to own quill pens and 18th century manual printing presses.
[ ] Recognizes inalienable individual right to free speech.

Second Amendment to the US Constitution:
[ ] Authorizes posession of arms by the Army and National Guard.
[ ] Protects the individual's right to own flint lock muskets and other 18th century arms.
[ ] Recognizes inalienable individual right to keeping and bearing arms.

If your elected officials do not trust you with firearms, unrestricted access to books and the Internet, or with other personal choices, do you think they represent you well? What steps can you take to regain your rights?
[Answer in Essay Format]

[Peter Lambert]

Pop Quiz:

Police officers carry high-capacity handguns and store shotguns or submachine guns in patrol cars because...
[ ] the cops are evil and want to kill innocents.
[ ] police deparments cannot afford tanks.
[ ] such firearms are effective means of self-defense.

Police want to have the most effective weapons possible. Budgetary constraints sometimes get in the way.

[Richy_T]

That's OK, the fedgov will buy them for them.

[RodeoX]

@Dabs, lol.  Yet, those are the choices.

Having congress decide on our gun laws is like putting the blind in charge of designing the traffic lights. Why would we not listen to people who know what they are talking about? Is it because they are going to tell anti-gun folks something they don't want to hear?

[TheButterZone]

@Dabs, lol.  Yet, those are the choices.

Having congress decide on our gun laws is like putting the blind in charge of designing the traffic lights.

Criminals in charge of their own utopia.

[myrkul]

@Dabs, lol.  Yet, those are the choices.

Having congress decide on our gun laws is like putting the blind in charge of designing the traffic lights.

Criminals in charge of their own utopia.

No, that's what it is, not what it is like.

[Rassah]

Holy shit! What the hell is going on in Tampa to make it so bad?

[myrkul]

Holy shit! What the hell is going on in Tampa to make it so bad?

Absolutely nothing.

The DHS is giving out tanks to pretty much every police force in the country. Keene, NH recently (and with a good bit of controversy) got a BEARCAT.

[TheButterZone]

Holy shit! What the hell is going on in Tampa to make it so bad?

Absolutely nothing.

The DHS is giving out tanks to pretty much every police force in the country. Keene, NH recently (and with a good bit of controversy) got a BEARCAT.

Keene is billed as the most libertarian city of the Free State Project. Surprised they didn't get a Death Star aimed at them.

[Peter Lambert]

Holy shit! What the hell is going on in Tampa to make it so bad?

They are just getting ready for when they implement their next set of policy changes and the masses finally get upset.

[myrkul]

Holy shit! What the hell is going on in Tampa to make it so bad?

Absolutely nothing.

The DHS is giving out tanks to pretty much every police force in the country. Keene, NH recently (and with a good bit of controversy) got a BEARCAT.

Keene is billed as the most libertarian city of the Free State Project. Surprised they didn't get a Death Star aimed at them.

Yeah, well, it backfired. Even the locals are pissed. If anything, this firmly puts the FSP in the "good guy" camp, in a lot of minds.

[Mike Christ]

Damn.  That is one well-armed gang.

[myrkul]

I love how they think painting "rescue" on the side of a tank somehow makes it not a tank.

Of course, these are also people who think printing "legal tender" on a piece of rag paper makes it money, so....

[Rassah]

Oh, wait, I remember! Tampa is the city that hosted the Republican National Convention last year. Those fucks are cray cray!!!

[Dabs]

Bloomberg was asked by some reporter "In the spirit of gun control, are you willing to disarm all your bodyguards?"

[myrkul]

Bloomberg was asked by some reporter "In the spirit of gun control, are you willing to disarm all your bodyguards?"

Of course not. The elites think they're better than the rest of us.

[TheButterZone]

Bloomberg was asked by some reporter "In the spirit of gun control, are you willing to disarm all your bodyguards?"

And the honest answer would be "No, because then I couldn't slanderously claim law-abiding gun owners are planning to assassinate me, when days, weeks, months, years, decades go by, and I never suffer any violence. Because criminals only kill pro-civil rights advocates, not people who advocate infringing civil rights into the grave, like me."