Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist)

[Elwar]

Intelligence has nothing to do with melanin, usually more to do with upbringing and environment than anything genetic. Intelligence as a differentiator is also dynamic as someone can always become smarter, however more difficult it becomes as we age. How does one define a race genetically? There are so many different combinations, how do you specify which combinations are which race?

There are idiots of all races. Deal with them as individuals instead of trying to paint a broad picture due to the limitations of your monkeysphere.

[valta4065]

Intelligence has nothing to do with melanin, usually more to do with upbringing and environment than anything genetic. Intelligence as a differentiator is also dynamic as someone can always become smarter, however more difficult it becomes as we age. How does one define a race genetically? There are so many different combinations, how do you specify which combinations are which race?

There are idiots of all races. Deal with them as individuals instead of trying to paint a broad picture due to the limitations of your

And again, how do you define intelligence? I totally agree with you saying that it's more a question of environment than of genetics, but even if it was a question of genetics, you can't really define intelligence.

IQ measures only pure logical capacities. You can have an IQ of 160 and still be dumb as hell, you'll just be extremely good at maths.

[Elwar]

Intelligence has nothing to do with melanin, usually more to do with upbringing and environment than anything genetic. Intelligence as a differentiator is also dynamic as someone can always become smarter, however more difficult it becomes as we age. How does one define a race genetically? There are so many different combinations, how do you specify which combinations are which race?

There are idiots of all races. Deal with them as individuals instead of trying to paint a broad picture due to the limitations of your

And again, how do you define intelligence? I totally agree with you saying that it's more a question of environment than of genetics, but even if it was a question of genetics, you can't really define intelligence.

IQ measures only pure logical capacities. You can have an IQ of 160 and still be dumb as hell, you'll just be extremely good at maths.

Exactly, and intelligence changes throughout a person's life. So how does one measure someone's intelligence if it will only change?

[valta4065]

Intelligence has nothing to do with melanin, usually more to do with upbringing and environment than anything genetic. Intelligence as a differentiator is also dynamic as someone can always become smarter, however more difficult it becomes as we age. How does one define a race genetically? There are so many different combinations, how do you specify which combinations are which race?

There are idiots of all races. Deal with them as individuals instead of trying to paint a broad picture due to the limitations of your

And again, how do you define intelligence? I totally agree with you saying that it's more a question of environment than of genetics, but even if it was a question of genetics, you can't really define intelligence.

IQ measures only pure logical capacities. You can have an IQ of 160 and still be dumb as hell, you'll just be extremely good at maths.

Exactly, and intelligence changes throughout a person's life. So how does one measure someone's intelligence if it will only change?

True, you'd also need to measure it on a regular basis during all the life of an individual.

You should find a way to define intelligence, then measure intelligence (not IQ, a good way) but then measure it like once every month or at least 5 or 6 times a year for 60 years before being able to start to make an assumption backed with scientific proofs.

[Elwar]

Intelligence has nothing to do with melanin, usually more to do with upbringing and environment than anything genetic. Intelligence as a differentiator is also dynamic as someone can always become smarter, however more difficult it becomes as we age. How does one define a race genetically? There are so many different combinations, how do you specify which combinations are which race?

There are idiots of all races. Deal with them as individuals instead of trying to paint a broad picture due to the limitations of your

And again, how do you define intelligence? I totally agree with you saying that it's more a question of environment than of genetics, but even if it was a question of genetics, you can't really define intelligence.

IQ measures only pure logical capacities. You can have an IQ of 160 and still be dumb as hell, you'll just be extremely good at maths.

Exactly, and intelligence changes throughout a person's life. So how does one measure someone's intelligence if it will only change?

True, you'd also need to measure it on a regular basis during all the life of an individual.

You should find a way to define intelligence, then measure intelligence (not IQ, a good way) but then measure it like once every month or at least 5 or 6 times a year for 60 years before being able to start to make an assumption backed with scientific proofs.

That way, after they die you can then lump them into a collective group so as to categorize them in your mind to do with as you please.

[valta4065]

Intelligence has nothing to do with melanin, usually more to do with upbringing and environment than anything genetic. Intelligence as a differentiator is also dynamic as someone can always become smarter, however more difficult it becomes as we age. How does one define a race genetically? There are so many different combinations, how do you specify which combinations are which race?

There are idiots of all races. Deal with them as individuals instead of trying to paint a broad picture due to the limitations of your

And again, how do you define intelligence? I totally agree with you saying that it's more a question of environment than of genetics, but even if it was a question of genetics, you can't really define intelligence.

IQ measures only pure logical capacities. You can have an IQ of 160 and still be dumb as hell, you'll just be extremely good at maths.

Exactly, and intelligence changes throughout a person's life. So how does one measure someone's intelligence if it will only change?

True, you'd also need to measure it on a regular basis during all the life of an individual.

You should find a way to define intelligence, then measure intelligence (not IQ, a good way) but then measure it like once every month or at least 5 or 6 times a year for 60 years before being able to start to make an assumption backed with scientific proofs.

That way, after they die you can then lump them into a collective group so as to categorize them in your mind to do with as you please.

Yeah and consider that the observations you made are probably not fresh enough to be applied to the new population 
And that their descendants having mixed genes you can't conclude anything about them.

[-Greed-]

Too many niggers here. To Whites: always ask questions like these when you are told we are equal:

• How many scientists are black? (there are almost no black scientists)
• Why do blacks have a lower average IQ than any other race? (they have backward genes - sad but true)
• How many things were invented by blacks? (super soaker water gun, that's all)
• Why are African counties the poorest in the world? (they are a backward society - sad but true)
• How many civilizations did blacks create? (none of them)
• Why do men (even black!) prefer white/asian/latin women over black? (no one wants its children to have blacks genes - chosen instinctively)

[-Greed-]

Is xenophobia a natural human behavior?

"82% Say Yes" - The wisdom of crowds

http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-xenophobia-a-natural-human-behavior

[valta4065]

Too many niggers here. To Whites: always ask questions like these when you are told we are equal:

• How many scientists are black? (there are almost no black scientists)
• Why do blacks have a lower average IQ than any other race? (they have backward genes - sad but true)
• How many things were invented by blacks? (super soaker water gun, that's all)
• Why are African counties the poorest in the world? (they are a backward society - sad but true)
• How many civilizations did blacks create? (none of them)
• Why do men (even black!) prefer white/asian/latin women over black? (no one wants its children to have blacks genes - chosen instinctively)

Talking about me? I'm white and Christian. You're just stupid.

-How many blacks had the opportunity to go to university and since when?
-Never saw any serious studies showing that. Just because you found a poorly hand made graph doesn't mean it's a proof.
- You mean like mathematics, engineering and medicine?
-Don't know, maybe because Africa is an extremely harsh continent with poor agricultural possibilities and that, above it, we came here, destroyed everything, enslaved them and that we're now using their continent as a trash can.
-Egypt? It doesn't count? Do you know the Malian Empire? It was an incredible civilisation and Mali managed to conquer nearly half of Africa. Also lots of nomade civilisation. It's not because you don't know that that it doesn't exist.
-You crazy? On what is that bullshit opinion based? Your taste and the one of your friends? That's an incredible proof indeed!

Most of your arguments are either nonsense/flawed or the proof of your ignorance of African culture and history.

[bizerinm]

It's difficult to say is black race less intelligent than white..not like this. Simply environment, climate,area of life is important in this. People from Scandinavia invented perfect heating systems because they needed it because of strong,snowy winters..and people from Uganda or so need not that, so they have no reasons to think about that.

[Spendulus]

My hypothesis is that genes play a much more important role than race. In the image we see large amounts of people both black and white who have an iq lower than 100. However we must be sceptical. What year is this picture from? What source?

This is a bell curve showing results of studies comparing races and ethnic groups with IQ among U.S. test subjects show differences in average test scores (Reynolds et al. 1987)

However there may be bias due to people (value education, in some Asian families a bad grade is shame to the family), educational possibilities (in the US education is not free), drugs usage etc.  When we look at the number of people with an iq higher or equal to 130 this is pretty low in all races.

But, within the Asian countries there are vast differences. The average iq of South Korea is 106, Indonesia is 89 and Philippines 86. (IQ and the Wealth of Nations, 2002). That is to say, either education or genes play an enormous role. This means the Philippines (Asian) has about the same bell curve as the black curve, while the South Korean bell curve is much more similar to the asian curve.  This is why we could claim that genes play a much more important role than race.

The claim of picture four "These are not the same species" may be false, because a species is defined as the largest group of organisms (animals) where two individuals are capable of reproducing (sexual reproduction).

The other images are jokes and historical events, so no comment on those.

The Hispanic category actually upsets the apple cart, as it is not a "race," but is defined as a collection of about 800 some surnames.  Hispanics generally are mixed European and native american, but this varies wildly - all the way from pure native american to 50-75% spanish heritage.

I can't recall offhand studies of various North American Indians and IQ, but they would not be the same as the measurements of Mexican Indian tribes.  Probably.  Who knows.

[bizerinm]

Mixing you get new race, nor white nor indian people..so they probably have all mesurement different from standard for each race...

[yugo23]

My hypothesis is that genes play a much more important role than race. In the image we see large amounts of people both black and white who have an iq lower than 100. However we must be sceptical. What year is this picture from? What source?

This is a bell curve showing results of studies comparing races and ethnic groups with IQ among U.S. test subjects show differences in average test scores (Reynolds et al. 1987)

However there may be bias due to people (value education, in some Asian families a bad grade is shame to the family), educational possibilities (in the US education is not free), drugs usage etc.  When we look at the number of people with an iq higher or equal to 130 this is pretty low in all races.

But, within the Asian countries there are vast differences. The average iq of South Korea is 106, Indonesia is 89 and Philippines 86. (IQ and the Wealth of Nations, 2002). That is to say, either education or genes play an enormous role. This means the Philippines (Asian) has about the same bell curve as the black curve, while the South Korean bell curve is much more similar to the asian curve.  This is why we could claim that genes play a much more important role than race.

The claim of picture four "These are not the same species" may be false, because a species is defined as the largest group of organisms (animals) where two individuals are capable of reproducing (sexual reproduction).

The other images are jokes and historical events, so no comment on those.

The Hispanic category actually upsets the apple cart, as it is not a "race," but is defined as a collection of about 800 some surnames.  Hispanics generally are mixed European and native american, but this varies wildly - all the way from pure native american to 50-75% spanish heritage.

I can't recall offhand studies of various North American Indians and IQ, but they would not be the same as the measurements of Mexican Indian tribes.  Probably.  Who knows.

Most of people don't belong to ONE race. You know that something like 10% of world population has a common ancestor of Gengis khan family xD
Well I don't feel very Asian but i'm not sure I'm pure Caucasian. Even if I'm white enough to get fucking Sun burns...

[gentlemand]

There was a great tv documentary that analysed the dna of english bigots. Only one was pure north european. The one that came up time and time again was mongolian. Lots of arabian too. One of the testees subsequently tried suing the show makers for ruining her purity.

[Spendulus]

There was a great tv documentary that analysed the dna of english bigots. Only one was pure north european. The one that came up time and time again was mongolian. Lots of arabian too. One of the testees subsequently tried suing the show makers for ruining her purity.

Cool.

So they analyzed the race, bigotomia?

[trickyriky]

Why do people deny such a obvious thing as racism (inequality of the human races)? People don't deny if someone says that one is smarter than other one. But when you apply the rule to the races this is a crime.

ohh dear ohh dear, ot very intelligent are we?

There is only 1 race the human race, those who place themselves anywhere other than equal to their fellow equals, elect to place them selves beneath the rest of us, ohh and just because some humans have tallent with the arts, and some are science genius' and some are good with their hands, DOES NOT mean they are indifferent or unequal, you choose that position with your own silly beliefs, WE ARE ALL EQUAL !!!!

[popcorn1]

Too many niggers here. To Whites: always ask questions like these when you are told we are equal:

• How many scientists are black? (there are almost no black scientists)
• Why do blacks have a lower average IQ than any other race? (they have backward genes - sad but true)
• How many things were invented by blacks? (super soaker water gun, that's all)
• Why are African counties the poorest in the world? (they are a backward society - sad but true)
• How many civilizations did blacks create? (none of them)
• Why do men (even black!) prefer white/asian/latin women over black? (no one wants its children to have blacks genes - chosen instinctively)

Talking about me? I'm white and Christian. You're just stupid.

-How many blacks had the opportunity to go to university and since when?
-Never saw any serious studies showing that. Just because you found a poorly hand made graph doesn't mean it's a proof.
- You mean like mathematics, engineering and medicine?
-Don't know, maybe because Africa is an extremely harsh continent with poor agricultural possibilities and that, above it, we came here, destroyed everything, enslaved them and that we're now using their continent as a trash can.
-Egypt? It doesn't count? Do you know the Malian Empire? It was an incredible civilisation and Mali managed to conquer nearly half of Africa. Also lots of nomade civilisation. It's not because you don't know that that it doesn't exist.
-You crazy? On what is that bullshit opinion based? Your taste and the one of your friends? That's an incredible proof indeed!

Most of your arguments are either nonsense/flawed or the proof of your ignorance of African culture and history.

Why have white invented more things in life ITS A SIMPLE ANSWERS DUMB ASSES
BECAUSE WHITES NEEDED TO KEEP WARM ..
THE START OF INVENTIONS TO KEEP YOU WARM THE WHITES NEEDED ENERGY THE MOST BECAUSE THEY WHERE COLD THE MOST

ALL INVENTIONS HAVE MOSTLY COME ABOUT BECAUSE OF HARSH CONDITIONS ON THIS PLANET I.E BAD WEATHER EARTH QUAKES VOLCANO'S AND SO ON ..

ITS NOT BECAUSE THE WHITE MAN IS ANYTHING MORE SPECIAL ITS JUST THE COLD WEATHER WE NEEDED ENERGY SO WE HAD TO THINK MORE TO KEEP WARM..


COAL AND STEAM START OF ELECTRICITY TO EVERYONE
YOUR A HUMAN BECAUSE OF HARSH CONDITIONS IT MAKES YOU NEED TO THINK MORE TO SURVIVE..

Also how many people if they had a good job and someone took your job and he was from another country how many would think that so and so coming over here and taking my job?

almost everyone

like me i work on the building sites and when the polish come over and undercut our pay..
because they were willing to work for less..loads of people were saying polish so and so taking our jobs
and there white..
so you see where was colour involved..
almost everyone can be a racist its just how far some people take it that is the problem..
many many think it but wont say it from all colours

[yugo23]

There was a great tv documentary that analysed the dna of english bigots. Only one was pure north european. The one that came up time and time again was mongolian. Lots of arabian too. One of the testees subsequently tried suing the show makers for ruining her purity.

Cool.

So they analyzed the race, bigotomia?

Yeah, but it's complicated, the only common point is their lack of logic but that's not written in the genes 

[valta4065]

Why do people deny such a obvious thing as racism (inequality of the human races)? People don't deny if someone says that one is smarter than other one. But when you apply the rule to the races this is a crime.

ohh dear ohh dear, ot very intelligent are we?

There is only 1 race the human race, those who place themselves anywhere other than equal to their fellow equals, elect to place them selves beneath the rest of us, ohh and just because some humans have tallent with the arts, and some are science genius' and some are good with their hands, DOES NOT mean they are indifferent or unequal, you choose that position with your own silly beliefs, WE ARE ALL EQUAL !!!!

Just correcting you: There is only one specie, which are the humans, but multiple races, which are for example the Caucasian race.

Difference is that two individuals from different species can't have children whereas two individuals from different races can have children but will have notable genetics differences due to their evolution in different environments.

[trickyriky]

Why do people deny such a obvious thing as racism (inequality of the human races)? People don't deny if someone says that one is smarter than other one. But when you apply the rule to the races this is a crime.

ohh dear ohh dear, ot very intelligent are we?

There is only 1 race the human race, those who place themselves anywhere other than equal to their fellow equals, elect to place them selves beneath the rest of us, ohh and just because some humans have tallent with the arts, and some are science genius' and some are good with their hands, DOES NOT mean they are indifferent or unequal, you choose that position with your own silly beliefs, WE ARE ALL EQUAL !!!!

Just correcting you: There is only one specie, which are the humans, but multiple races, which are for example the Caucasian race.

Difference is that two individuals from different species can't have children whereas two individuals from different races can have children but will have notable genetics differences due to their evolution in different environments.

you absolute retard, do the world a favour and dont have kids..... THE HUMAN RACE IS THE ONLY FOOKING RACE YOU IDIOT!!!

those who place themselves anywhere other than equal to their fellow equals, elect to place them selves beneath the rest of us FOOL!