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February 22, 2016, 10:12:53 PM
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Nice, but the memory of different people work in different ways.
Not everyone has the visual memory required by this.
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February 22, 2016, 10:16:17 PM
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Nice, but the memory of different people work in different ways.
Not everyone has the visual memory required by this.

Everyone can do this, it's not hard. Just practice it 15-20 minutes and it will be easy.

I can memorize a seed in 5 minutes.

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February 25, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
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Perhaps it's easier if only 1 class of items is listed like animals.

You could do that for example assign 1 letter to an animal, and then only memorize a list of animals in order, and keep your reference list with many backups because that translates the animals to the letters.

You could make the reference list public too, because it's technically not confidential, but better keep it private for better security.

For example:

Elephant  -> A
Dog        -> a
Mouse     ->B
Cat         ->b
Zebra     ->C
Cow        -> c
Eagle      ->D

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So if the private key is something like this:  HUQuihAYF745I4h8H81HUq546sg2

It can be reconstructed as a list of animals with the method mentioned above.

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February 27, 2016, 04:28:00 PM
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I thought no one could remember it

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February 27, 2016, 04:57:19 PM
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I thought that seed was only a mnemonic phrase for backup. Yes it is a backup but I didn't know that it was the private key. Hahahaha its been a long time since I used an offline wallet.

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February 27, 2016, 06:28:30 PM
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I thought that seed was only a mnemonic phrase for backup. Yes it is a backup but I didn't know that it was the private key. Hahahaha its been a long time since I used an offline wallet.

It is not technically a private key, but it's the source of the private keys, that if it's compromized, all private keys can be derived from it that are in that wallet.

So yes it's the source entropy of the private keys in that wallet ,and it's confidential.

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March 01, 2016, 12:48:33 AM
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I know someone who did this a few years ago i was rather amazed, however i don't have the patience. Nothing wrong with printing it out Smiley
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March 01, 2016, 01:25:18 AM
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I know someone who did this a few years ago i was rather amazed, however i don't have the patience. Nothing wrong with printing it out Smiley

sure, but remember everything physical is public, and anyone can read it, unless you hide it very well

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March 15, 2016, 02:34:35 AM
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Did anyone tried out this method? Let me know if it works for you.

Nowadays passphrases are more preferable towards passwords, because it's easy to memorize.

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March 15, 2016, 08:44:38 PM
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Did anyone tried out this method? Let me know if it works for you.

Nowadays passphrases are more preferable towards passwords, because it's easy to memorize.

I tried it last night (before the morning Tongue) but when i wake up i could remember completely the phrase, so i wouldn't risk to only save on my brain unless i have saved it anywhere physically.
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March 15, 2016, 08:53:54 PM
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This is true, anyoneone can remember their pass phrase with focus.
But when youre stress you will likely forget a part of the phrase.
Very informative topic, not just for storing keys to your memory but for enhancing memory too.

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March 16, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
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That's the 'Memory Palace' or Method of loci, it's a well known memorization technique that has been around since ancient Greece. Some memory champions use it even today. Any of you interested in memory feats can check out the link below for Pi memorization. This guy recited 70,000 pi decimal places blindfolded, it took him 10 hours to do it. I remember in an interview some years back, a Japanese guy who memorized Pi to 40,000 decimal places said he used this visualization technique to achieve his feat.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-pi-places-memorised
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March 18, 2016, 03:42:40 AM
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Very useful tutorial, but since i don' t have a good memory, i prefer to write my key/passphrase/password on .txt file Grin

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March 18, 2016, 03:50:40 AM
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That's the 'Memory Palace' or Method of loci, it's a well known memorization technique that has been around since ancient Greece. Some memory champions use it even today. Any of you interested in memory feats can check out the link below for Pi memorization. This guy recited 70,000 pi decimal places blindfolded, it took him 10 hours to do it. I remember in an interview some years back, a Japanese guy who memorized Pi to 40,000 decimal places said he used this visualization technique to achieve his feat.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-pi-places-memorised

Wow i didnt realized this had already been invented, i`ve figured this out of my own when i was a kid, and had to remember damn poetry in school.

Looks like i rediscovered the wheel.

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March 19, 2016, 04:16:40 PM
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that's one weird kind of thread I have to say but pretty brilliant to use that kind of technique to memorize the seed. I was hoping to see the way to memorize the private key rather than the seed Grin Private key is damn harder to do that than the seed (at least the seed contains meaningful words Grin ). Anyway, thanks for your tutorial.
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March 19, 2016, 08:13:37 PM
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Really interesting method but I don't want to take the risk of losing the pw's if I am using a wallet with a large amount of money stored in it. Would much rather stick around to the old methods Smiley
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March 19, 2016, 08:53:34 PM
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I applaud your technique but some people may not be able to utilize this because different people learn in different ways. The issue is what if you have more than a few wallets that require you to remember your seed words ? I think it would be a little foolish to keep all your bitcoins in your wallet. My main concern is if you have two strings of seeds words associated with two wallets, the worst thing that could happen is something they get mesh together and you end up having two seed phrases from words associated with both wallet. Remembering your seed words is always nice but there is always the concern you might forget them at some point and time.
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March 20, 2016, 01:14:56 AM
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I applaud your technique but some people may not be able to utilize this because different people learn in different ways. The issue is what if you have more than a few wallets that require you to remember your seed words ? I think it would be a little foolish to keep all your bitcoins in your wallet. My main concern is if you have two strings of seeds words associated with two wallets, the worst thing that could happen is something they get mesh together and you end up having two seed phrases from words associated with both wallet. Remembering your seed words is always nice but there is always the concern you might forget them at some point and time.

Well then generate new seeds for the 2nd wallet until all words are different from the seed of the 1st wallet, that way you can imagine 2 stories that are completely different and memorize them both with 100% integrity.

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March 20, 2016, 04:27:52 AM
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I dont know guys but you guys must be drunk all the time because it's really easy to memorize a password.

Look i have a very bad short term memory, i cant even remember what i ate yesterday, but i have a decent visual memory.


I can remember a password and i only need to retrain my memory 1-2 times a month, its really easy to memorize password with this method, and if your memory is below average then just retrain it 2 times/week, and i think it should be ok.

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March 21, 2016, 02:10:29 PM
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You could not memorize a private key unless you will save it on a word document or write it on a piece of paper.

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