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January 07, 2013, 04:45:52 PM
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Is the problem here that you disagree with someone else's political opinion?
You'd rather they didn't have that opinion?
You'd like the system to prevent them having that opinion?

I don't see the problem here. It's just someone pursuing their idea, which you disagree with.
You want to stop them pursuing this idea?

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January 07, 2013, 04:48:27 PM
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I'm more reminded of the SPQR and how they devolved entirely and Rome ended up being ruled by a man named Julius Caesar, you guys had a general in your army named Petraeus! LOL! How can I not think of Rome after that? The Roman empire also believed in spreading their ideology through invasion, violence and threats as well except they thought that they were spreading civilization rather than democracy.

The Roman empire just fell apart in the end. Soldiers defected, occupied countries evaded taxes, resources depleted and an administration to big to manage for the Senate.

How is this similar with the world today? lets see, it took the Roman Empire 75 years to disintegrate, will it happen faster this time?
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January 07, 2013, 04:53:34 PM
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With the invention of printed money it hopefully will Luno, the Romans had to make do with gold and silver which can't be mass produced into coins easily so the rulers of Rome couldn't piss it away in such a short time.
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January 07, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
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How is this similar with the world today? lets see, it took the Roman Empire 75 years to disintegrate, will it happen faster this time?

Weimarr republic disintegrated pretty fast. Of course, they had to use actual printed money... I'm not sure if digital "spreadsheet money" will delay the inevitable, or hasten it.

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January 07, 2013, 05:03:44 PM
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With the invention of printed money it hopefully will Luno, the Romans had to make do with gold and silver which can't be mass produced into coins easily so the rulers of Rome couldn't piss it away in such a short time.

The Romans must have known the dangers of inflation as they outlawed interest on loans! On the other hand they didn't need paper money to manage Slavery. If you were in debt you paied with years of your life - same thing.
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January 07, 2013, 05:54:27 PM
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How is this similar with the world today? lets see, it took the Roman Empire 75 years to disintegrate, will it happen faster this time?

Weimarr republic disintegrated pretty fast. Of course, they had to use actual printed money... I'm not sure if digital "spreadsheet money" will delay the inevitable, or hasten it.

With "digital money" as you put it, is obscured a bit because of the accounting tricks we pull using our Treasury and Central Bank.  Currently the Central Bank is purchasing over 80% of all treasury auctions.  That is quite a figure. 

What will happen is either food and fuel prices will go to levels that push a majority of people into poverty or people will just lose confidence in our system and really pull back and start pulling their money from the banks.  It is the ordinary person losing confidence in our system which will likely cause it to collapse.   When that will be, is anyone's guess.  You will just have to see how absurd we will get with out fiscal polices and entitlement programs.

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January 08, 2013, 03:09:15 AM
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How is this similar with the world today? lets see, it took the Roman Empire 75 years to disintegrate, will it happen faster this time?

Weimarr republic disintegrated pretty fast. Of course, they had to use actual printed money... I'm not sure if digital "spreadsheet money" will delay the inevitable, or hasten it.

Great example. Another is Zimbabwe, which is still reeling.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/zi.html

Is the problem here that you disagree with someone else's political opinion?
Partly.


You'd rather they didn't have that opinion?
Correct.


You'd like the system to prevent them having that opinion?
Never. Our system was built on liberty, free speech, and diverse opinions.


I don't see the problem here. It's just someone pursuing their idea, which you disagree with.
The problem is a protection against tyranny would be removed.


You want to stop them pursuing this idea?
Correct, but I have no right to stop them from pursuing this idea unless we can prove it's part of a conspiracy to subvert/overthrow the government (or some major treasonous activity). I believe enough evidence exists to open a congressional investigation like they did back in '54 with the Reece Committee on Foundations. Plus all the Joe McCarthy era stuff, which I believe they were right. Our robber barons, international bankers, the money trust, magnates, and industrialists absolutely adored communism (democracy, socialism, etc). They loved the pure control and efficiency. They created endowments and foundations to advance the melding of communism in the USA and throughout the world. They started all the major world orgs. Today we call it a global community (globalism). All founded on the collective hive mentality, but with absolute unquestioned power and control by a few. Take a look at who is truly runnign the world today. I do not mean governments. I mean who control them. Who lobbies them and gets legislation passed... and those that fund them.

Even if all that were not true, I would still vehemently oppose such a destruction of an important protection. We need more protections, not fewer.

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