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February 04, 2016, 01:26:44 PM
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WASHINGTON — President Obama is being pressed by some of his top national security aides to approve the use of American military power in Libya to open up another front against the Islamic State.

But Mr. Obama, wary of embarking on an intervention in another strife-torn country, has told his aides to redouble their efforts to help form a unity government in Libya at the same time the Pentagon refines its options, which include airstrikes, commando raids or advising vetted Libyan militias on the ground, as Special Operations forces are doing now in eastern Syria. The use of large numbers of American ground troops is not being considered.

The debate, which played out in a meeting Mr. Obama had with his advisers last week, has not yet been resolved, nor have the size or contours of any possible American military involvement been determined.

“The White House just has to decide,” said one senior State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. “The case has been laid out by virtually every department.”

The number of Islamic State fighters in Libya, Pentagon officials said this week, has grown to between 5,000 and 6,500 — more than double the estimate government analysts disclosed last fall. Rather than travel to Iraq or Syria, many new Islamic State recruits from across North Africa have remained in Libya, in militant strongholds along more than 150 miles of Mediterranean coastline near Surt, these officials said.

The top leadership of the Islamic State in Syria has sent half a dozen top lieutenants to Libya to help organize what Western officials consider the most dangerous of the group’s eight global affiliates. In recent months, United States and British Special Operations teams have increased clandestine reconnaissance missions in Libya to identify the militant leaders and map out their networks for possible strikes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/world/africa/isis-libya-us-special-ops.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&hp&_r=0

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February 04, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
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Good timing. Soon enough it´ll be spring which means better travel conditions across the Mediterranean and up Europe.  
They´re trying to be ahead of the curve, stimulating the refugee market.
Judging from the record of these people they could very well manage to destabilize the entire North Africa from Egypt to Morocco.


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February 04, 2016, 02:57:16 PM
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Libya is in horrible situation now like Iraq and Syria. It's a big country now divided between tribes and with a lot of radical islamic and lot of fighters from chad and niger ..now ISIS is reuniting and relocating from Syria in Lybia and this can affect Chad, Niger,Mali as well we now what happened with militants in Timbuctu..Obama will do nothing well he ll maybe begin with airstrickes but except mess he wont solve anything

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February 04, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
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Libya is in horrible situation now like Iraq and Syria. It's a big country now divided between tribes and with a lot of radical islamic and lot of fighters from chad and niger ..now ISIS is reuniting and relocating from Syria in Lybia and this can affect Chad, Niger,Mali as well we now what happened with militants in Timbuctu..Obama will do nothing well he ll maybe begin with airstrickes but except mess he wont solve anything

Now morons and psychopaths are desperate to get a totally certifiable nutcase, one of the chief architects of the destruction of Libya, that created this present mess - into the freakin White House. Unbelievable. Wall St., the war industry, garbage media and idiots and fruitcakes united. You can´t make this shit up.

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February 04, 2016, 03:39:06 PM
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Lybia, Iraq,Syria, all once rich, stable, strong and peaceful countries, with a lot of foreigner workers..and with no radical islam, and very friendly to foreign people...now destroyed with no reason, o yes they were not 'democracy' and no stupid laws, people lived good

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February 04, 2016, 03:45:26 PM
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Western powers have reacted too late in Iraq and Syria and allowed the strengthening of ISIS, and now is very difficult to stop them.
If we allow the strengthening of ISIS also in Libya, only a few hundred kilometers from Europe, it will become an even bigger security problem and should not be allowed.
I hope Obama will make the right decision now and protect not just Libya but all Europe. 

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February 04, 2016, 04:21:42 PM
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Western powers have reacted too late in Iraq and Syria and allowed the strengthening of ISIS, and now is very difficult to stop them.
If we allow the strengthening of ISIS also in Libya, only a few hundred kilometers from Europe, it will become an even bigger security problem and should not be allowed.
I hope Obama will make the right decision now and protect not just Libya but all Europe. 

Reacted too late? How about not allowing lunatics to destroy these countries to begin with? Now the same shitpile with a 100% record of screwing up everything it meddles with is going to fix Libya? That it destroyed a few years ago. Get real.

Afghanistan is a total mess after suffering 14 years of these nutballs. I guess the solution is to re-invade to screw it up even more.

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February 04, 2016, 04:41:11 PM
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Western powers have reacted too late in Iraq and Syria and allowed the strengthening of ISIS, and now is very difficult to stop them.
If we allow the strengthening of ISIS also in Libya, only a few hundred kilometers from Europe, it will become an even bigger security problem and should not be allowed.
I hope Obama will make the right decision now and protect not just Libya but all Europe.  

Obama and his cronies should stop interfering in Europe, why you say he should protect us.
Europe needs protection from the USA.

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I call for regime change in Washington, how about we interfere over there.
We could bring some cookies along.

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February 05, 2016, 06:16:17 PM
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He ll destroy already destroyed country totally...But the worst is that all islam radical rats from sub sahar Africa will go there and this ll be new Syria
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February 05, 2016, 08:00:51 PM
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WASHINGTON — President Obama is being pressed by some of his top national security aides to approve the use of American military power in Libya to open up another front against the Islamic State.

But Mr. Obama, wary of embarking on an intervention in another strife-torn country, has told his aides to redouble their efforts to help form a unity government in Libya at the same time the Pentagon refines its options, which include airstrikes, commando raids or advising vetted Libyan militias on the ground, as Special Operations forces are doing now in eastern Syria. The use of large numbers of American ground troops is not being considered.

The debate, which played out in a meeting Mr. Obama had with his advisers last week, has not yet been resolved, nor have the size or contours of any possible American military involvement been determined.

“The White House just has to decide,” said one senior State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. “The case has been laid out by virtually every department.”

The number of Islamic State fighters in Libya, Pentagon officials said this week, has grown to between 5,000 and 6,500 — more than double the estimate government analysts disclosed last fall. Rather than travel to Iraq or Syria, many new Islamic State recruits from across North Africa have remained in Libya, in militant strongholds along more than 150 miles of Mediterranean coastline near Surt, these officials said.

The top leadership of the Islamic State in Syria has sent half a dozen top lieutenants to Libya to help organize what Western officials consider the most dangerous of the group’s eight global affiliates. In recent months, United States and British Special Operations teams have increased clandestine reconnaissance missions in Libya to identify the militant leaders and map out their networks for possible strikes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/world/africa/isis-libya-us-special-ops.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&hp&_r=0

Oh god please no....

Could the Western world (especially the USA but sadly enough it was not the USA that started this dumbass idea to fight Lybia) let the world in peace? I mean how the fuck those wars help us fight terrorism??? We just traumatize the population giving them more reason to die in kamikaze explosion in our cities!

I mean if we really want to fight them so bad, then stop this bullshit of war to bring democracy and just burn their country! A few atomic bombs and it'll be done. Else just let them be. Cause this semi-war isn't going to help us in any way...
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February 05, 2016, 11:37:11 PM
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So called democracy make chaos in Iraq,Syria, Lybia, Egipt an Tunissia..while they were non democracy lands everything worked there and all was in order

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February 06, 2016, 10:23:49 AM
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Libya is in horrible situation now like Iraq and Syria. It's a big country now divided between tribes and with a lot of radical islamic and lot of fighters from chad and niger ..now ISIS is reuniting and relocating from Syria in Lybia and this can affect Chad, Niger,Mali as well we now what happened with militants in Timbuctu..Obama will do nothing well he ll maybe begin with airstrickes but except mess he wont solve anything

Now morons and psychopaths are desperate to get a totally certifiable nutcase, one of the chief architects of the destruction of Libya, that created this present mess - into the freakin White House. Unbelievable. Wall St., the war industry, garbage media and idiots and fruitcakes united. You can´t make this shit up.
Libya, Syria & Iraq are the classic examples of ignorant people being used by neocons to dispose their once stable governments on the manipulated lies of human rights, democracy & freedom of speech.

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February 06, 2016, 10:28:00 AM
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They were strong  and powerful countries, everybody lived good, a lot of foreign people worked there, no extremism, Gadafi wanted to improve irigation system so they can convert waste in useful land and start agriculture business..
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February 06, 2016, 07:18:15 PM
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So far Obama hasn't gotten anything right in Syria or Iraq other than both countries utterly destroyed.

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February 06, 2016, 07:24:37 PM
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Obama is pressed to establish another prostitute dictatorship in Syria. US tax payers will pay for this, but all benefits will go to US corruptionists. This is a very good business for corruptionists.

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February 06, 2016, 07:54:14 PM
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Syria will be divided in Sunni, Shia and Kurdish territories
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February 07, 2016, 12:31:48 AM
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Yes like Iraq and I heard Turkey and Saudi Arabia also will be divided..that there is some plan to create new states on middle east, create state for Kurds and suni and shiit states

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