How do we get sex workers to use bitcoin?

[Cass LeChat]

I mean, it makes sense right? Lots of transactions, they can teach their clients. I started a resource here as a good step.

But what are some other ways? 

i wish there would be escort site which accepts bitcoin.. this is my biggest dream

It's possible that it'll happen soon. More and more advertisers like backpage.com and leolist.cc are accepting bitcoin for paying for ads, so it makes sense that folks will want to accept bitcoin instead of having to buy it to use those services.

[Cyaren]

I mean, it makes sense right? Lots of transactions, they can teach their clients. I started a resource here as a good step.

But what are some other ways?

But arent the clients all too focused on their big pussies rather than the things they try to teach? 

[Cass LeChat]

I mean, it makes sense right? Lots of transactions, they can teach their clients. I started a resource here as a good step.

But what are some other ways?

But arent the clients all too focused on their big pussies rather than the things they try to teach? 

Not all sex workers are women, and they have a range of size body parts. This is a fucked up weird questions and I'm ignoring you.

[heldertb]

I mean, it makes sense right? Lots of transactions, they can teach their clients. I started a resource here as a good step.

But what are some other ways? 

i wish there would be escort site which accepts bitcoin.. this is my biggest dream

It's possible that it'll happen soon. More and more advertisers like backpage.com and leolist.cc are accepting bitcoin for paying for ads, so it makes sense that folks will want to accept bitcoin instead of having to buy it to use those services.

yeah I am not agree with you friend . It is  impossible. how can know about sex now they are using bitcoin but you are only thinking which are using bitcoin they all my sataf

[Sir Lagsalot]

You sig spammers and your shallow statements. "Bad PR?"   That's the absolute last thing honey badger gives a shit about!

Read "Only the Black Market Matters" by Justus Ranvier, he really nails it: "Anyone who isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy is wasting their time."

So you are telling off sig spammers, and here you are wearing a sig and making a bullshit post. Hypocrite much.

Stuff in my sig is all my own work, purpose is to demonstrate I have some clue of what I'm talking about (still lots to learn though!) and haven't scammed anyone.

It irritates me when people talk nonsense simply to earn some satoshis. Your time would be better spent gaining knowledge than making low-info posts. Sig campaigns have created an incentive for noobs to spam ignorance all over the forum and it sucks. The campagns should really start testing people's understanding of Bitcoin before signing them up.

People who don't get why sex-workers accepting Bitcoin is a good thing really don't get Bitcoin. Censorship-resistance is one of the fundamental properties. The moment you can no longer buy drugs and hookers with Bitcoin, this experiment in private money may be considered failed.

[sadface]

you need to appeal to the employer (pimp, website etc.) to act as a gateway by converting their workers btc salary into FIAT for convenience.

[Sir Lagsalot]

You sig spammers and your shallow statements. "Bad PR?"   That's the absolute last thing honey badger gives a shit about!

Read "Only the Black Market Matters" by Justus Ranvier, he really nails it: "Anyone who isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy is wasting their time."

No need to be offensive, actually both sides have arguments, sadly in this forum there are a lot of black and white people and that's what stops Bitcoin grow. I do agree with the article you mentioned to a certain extent, however we can't live in that utopia, at least those of us who run businesses and have credit cards because well, you can't basically exist without regulation, you are limited in many ways by the government and that's sad but just as you don't hand over your house keys to a homeless person, the government does its job in protecting itself too.

Bitcoin has without a doubt a bad image for the average person but not only that, it's very hard to adopt for non tech savvy people, for me those are huge barriers if we truly want a new currency, or perhaps you want it to be controlled by the elite alone?

Saying black and white thinking stops Bitcoin's growth is itself a black and white statement and also false; Bitcoin is growing nicely.

I think you should re-read the article. People in the informal economy are by definition doing unregulated business. They're people like street vendors selling snacks for cash or labourers who do handyman work for cash. Drugs and prostitution are a very small slice of this pie, terrorism funding is an even tinier slice (if it currently exists at all). However, controversial goods and services are justifications for governments to attempt to control the entire informal economy. Many governments are working on banning cash so that all transactions must go through the banks, to be "properly" taxed and regulated. Not only will this enrich the state, expanding their warmaking and surveillance capabilities, but it will put many of these marginal workers out of business and into poverty.

It's essential that Bitcoin be able to take the place of cash, if or when it's banned, lest we all end up living in some tyrannical dystopia. There's nothing elitist in wanting currency which can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Prostitution and drug sales are only a small part of the tremendous personal freedom which Bitcoin offers. You can't stop Bitcoin being used for such purposes without destroying Bitcoin, so find a way to tolerate such victimless "crimes." Forget about the disapproval of the traditional media, who often serve the purposes of government.

Like the article points out, there are now (or soon will be) more people employed by the informal economy than the regulated one. That people like sex-workers are actively adopting Bitcoin, despite its "bad PR" and technical complexity, is very encouraging for Bitcoin's future success and for individual liberty.

[Hui8]

I mean, it makes sense right? Lots of transactions, they can teach their clients. I started a resource here as a good step.

But what are some other ways?

there are a lot of workers and work that could accept btc for a strong service... why start from sexual workers??

[Redrose]

But be sure to explain the transaction times and the upcoming hard fork just so they're well-informed about potential problems they might have.  You might want to suggest the Mycelium wallet or something for androids and that breadwallet for IOS.  I'm sure it'll be a hit with him/her.

Don't forget to explain all about how mining POW works like lottery tickets, how full nodes work, how the public ledger dubbed the blockchain records all of this ever since the genesis block, and how cryptography works with one way math problems etc..

It should be no problem as long as she (or he/it?) is still on the clock..

I don't think that regular people (could we talk about regular people here ?) need to know everything about the system. Just telling them how to use it will be enough I think.

[avw1982]

I mean, it makes sense right? Lots of transactions, they can teach their clients. I started a resource here as a good step.

But what are some other ways?

I checked with the link But I could not get it. How we can pay and get the girls man.
I don't think It will work with bitcoin an all.

[arlene05973]

This type of threads is a clear sign of the current decadency of this forum. I have always thought that when someone does not have a good idea to share, it is better to remain silent with dignity.

@angaper, don't blame the guy for coming up with such thread. Coming up with the right idea is difficult this day so, posting anything that comes to mind is an alternative in order to increase his activities on this forum

[salinizm]

I mean, it makes sense right? Lots of transactions, they can teach their clients. I started a resource here as a good step.

But what are some other ways? 

i wish there would be escort site which accepts bitcoin.. this is my biggest dream

It's possible that it'll happen soon. More and more advertisers like backpage.com and leolist.cc are accepting bitcoin for paying for ads, so it makes sense that folks will want to accept bitcoin instead of having to buy it to use those services.

i think again bitcoin ecosystem is composed of men for this reason we should add more women to this ecosystem..

[kevin go]

it would be happen soon or maybe its already happen but we dont know..
im sure if that workers know btc and have a good advantage like can be buy/sell a things and do some transaction
they will be accepted btc..bcause its same as real money
and also btc is anyonymous so its match for a something like prostitute things..

[BillyBobJoe]

Why don't you try this...

wait until you are done and then tell her you want to pay her in virtual electronic currency which was invented by someone who wants to remain anonymous. Tell her she can create an electronic wallet online and you'll electronically transfer your virtual bitcoins into her account but she should wait for a few confirmations and that could take 10 minutes. After waiting for the confirmations, she can convert the money into dollars by going to an online exchange, moving money into it, providing some documentation and then waiting a week or maybe two. Tell her that the fee for converting her money to dollars isn't a big deal. She will need to give them her bank account information.

Hearing all that, she will likely call her pimp.

Then you have a chance to educate a second person about bitcoin!

If you are lucky, you will end up in the hospital with moderate to severe injuries. There you have the chance to educate even more people on bitcoin, the trauma nurse and the police. Explain the virtues of pseudo-anonymous transactions and how the dollar will be worthless in the future because of the Fed.

Excellent post. Now for laughs you should go find some of the threads that talk up how simple and convenient it is to use BTC especially compared to all the other methods of monetary exchange.

[Kprawn]

Most sex workers do not pay taxes like we do. The money goes straight to their pimp and they get a share. We are talking millions of dollars not going

through bank accounts. They cannot use bank accounts or the IRS will hunt their ass. {excuse the pun} So most of this money are used for drugs and

booze. Bitcoin will leave a trace or a traceable record of their earnings and this will be the problem. I would prefer them regulating this area and

using Bitcoin to do that, but they will never support that. Tax free income is the number one goal for them. 

This is untrue. LOL. Don't talk about shit you don't know about.

How would you know, what I know and what I do not know. Show me a sex worker or a pimp for that matter, that submit a Tax return at the end of the

year, like most of us do. We have worked with these people in my country before and I can tell you out of experience that prostitution is a criminal

offense in most countries. The authorities just look the other way most of the time, because they render a service, some people needs. The closest they

come to paying tax, is when they pay VAT on items they purchase. Let's not debate this issue, because it's true for most countries.

[Laosai]

Most sex workers do not pay taxes like we do. The money goes straight to their pimp and they get a share. We are talking millions of dollars not going

through bank accounts. They cannot use bank accounts or the IRS will hunt their ass. {excuse the pun} So most of this money are used for drugs and

booze. Bitcoin will leave a trace or a traceable record of their earnings and this will be the problem. I would prefer them regulating this area and

using Bitcoin to do that, but they will never support that. Tax free income is the number one goal for them. 

This is untrue. LOL. Don't talk about shit you don't know about.

How would you know, what I know and what I do not know. Show me a sex worker or a pimp for that matter, that submit a Tax return at the end of the

year, like most of us do. We have worked with these people in my country before and I can tell you out of experience that prostitution is a criminal

offense in most countries. The authorities just look the other way most of the time, because they render a service, some people needs. The closest they

come to paying tax, is when they pay VAT on items they purchase. Let's not debate this issue, because it's true for most countries.

Hmm I'd say you're right for most countries but sex workers is an official job in lots of countries too don't forget it.

For example, in Netherlands and in Australia sex workers do submit a Tax return, as any other business.

Well after, like any other business working mainly in cash, they don't report everything of course xD

[mtnsaa]

You sig spammers and your shallow statements. "Bad PR?"   That's the absolute last thing honey badger gives a shit about!

Read "Only the Black Market Matters" by Justus Ranvier, he really nails it: "Anyone who isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy is wasting their time."

No need to be offensive, actually both sides have arguments, sadly in this forum there are a lot of black and white people and that's what stops Bitcoin grow. I do agree with the article you mentioned to a certain extent, however we can't live in that utopia, at least those of us who run businesses and have credit cards because well, you can't basically exist without regulation, you are limited in many ways by the government and that's sad but just as you don't hand over your house keys to a homeless person, the government does its job in protecting itself too.

Bitcoin has without a doubt a bad image for the average person but not only that, it's very hard to adopt for non tech savvy people, for me those are huge barriers if we truly want a new currency, or perhaps you want it to be controlled by the elite alone?

Saying black and white thinking stops Bitcoin's growth is itself a black and white statement and also false; Bitcoin is growing nicely.

I think you should re-read the article. People in the informal economy are by definition doing unregulated business. They're people like street vendors selling snacks for cash or labourers who do handyman work for cash. Drugs and prostitution are a very small slice of this pie, terrorism funding is an even tinier slice (if it currently exists at all). However, controversial goods and services are justifications for governments to attempt to control the entire informal economy. Many governments are working on banning cash so that all transactions must go through the banks, to be "properly" taxed and regulated. Not only will this enrich the state, expanding their warmaking and surveillance capabilities, but it will put many of these marginal workers out of business and into poverty.

It's essential that Bitcoin be able to take the place of cash, if or when it's banned, lest we all end up living in some tyrannical dystopia. There's nothing elitist in wanting currency which can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Prostitution and drug sales are only a small part of the tremendous personal freedom which Bitcoin offers. You can't stop Bitcoin being used for such purposes without destroying Bitcoin, so find a way to tolerate such victimless "crimes." Forget about the disapproval of the traditional media, who often serve the purposes of government.

Like the article points out, there are now (or soon will be) more people employed by the informal economy than the regulated one. That people like sex-workers are actively adopting Bitcoin, despite its "bad PR" and technical complexity, is very encouraging for Bitcoin's future success and for individual liberty.

Bitcoin can most definitely be censored or declared illegal by any government and I wouldn't be surprised because if I were the government I wouldn't like a side currency that I can't control really, same as avoiding taxes if you ask me, that's how it all works. That would be the end of Bitcoin real quick if the punishment is as harsh as selling drugs for example, no one would touch it. I understand where are you coming though, I always thought Bitcoin would flourish in those markets, porn, gambling, etc, where no registration and instant deposits is a must but I just don't feel it worked. People still use CCs, Paypal or other payment systems, they just don't need Bitcoin and it's a hassle to get into for the average person, that's the bottomline that many can't seem to admit.

[Laosai]

You sig spammers and your shallow statements. "Bad PR?"   That's the absolute last thing honey badger gives a shit about!

Read "Only the Black Market Matters" by Justus Ranvier, he really nails it: "Anyone who isn’t actively working to expand and empower the informal economy is wasting their time."

No need to be offensive, actually both sides have arguments, sadly in this forum there are a lot of black and white people and that's what stops Bitcoin grow. I do agree with the article you mentioned to a certain extent, however we can't live in that utopia, at least those of us who run businesses and have credit cards because well, you can't basically exist without regulation, you are limited in many ways by the government and that's sad but just as you don't hand over your house keys to a homeless person, the government does its job in protecting itself too.

Bitcoin has without a doubt a bad image for the average person but not only that, it's very hard to adopt for non tech savvy people, for me those are huge barriers if we truly want a new currency, or perhaps you want it to be controlled by the elite alone?

Saying black and white thinking stops Bitcoin's growth is itself a black and white statement and also false; Bitcoin is growing nicely.

I think you should re-read the article. People in the informal economy are by definition doing unregulated business. They're people like street vendors selling snacks for cash or labourers who do handyman work for cash. Drugs and prostitution are a very small slice of this pie, terrorism funding is an even tinier slice (if it currently exists at all). However, controversial goods and services are justifications for governments to attempt to control the entire informal economy. Many governments are working on banning cash so that all transactions must go through the banks, to be "properly" taxed and regulated. Not only will this enrich the state, expanding their warmaking and surveillance capabilities, but it will put many of these marginal workers out of business and into poverty.

It's essential that Bitcoin be able to take the place of cash, if or when it's banned, lest we all end up living in some tyrannical dystopia. There's nothing elitist in wanting currency which can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Prostitution and drug sales are only a small part of the tremendous personal freedom which Bitcoin offers. You can't stop Bitcoin being used for such purposes without destroying Bitcoin, so find a way to tolerate such victimless "crimes." Forget about the disapproval of the traditional media, who often serve the purposes of government.

Like the article points out, there are now (or soon will be) more people employed by the informal economy than the regulated one. That people like sex-workers are actively adopting Bitcoin, despite its "bad PR" and technical complexity, is very encouraging for Bitcoin's future success and for individual liberty.

Bitcoin can most definitely be censored or declared illegal by any government and I wouldn't be surprised because if I were the government I wouldn't like a side currency that I can't control really, same as avoiding taxes if you ask me, that's how it all works. That would be the end of Bitcoin real quick if the punishment is as harsh as selling drugs for example, no one would touch it. I understand where are you coming though, I always thought Bitcoin would flourish in those markets, porn, gambling, etc, where no registration and instant deposits is a must but I just don't feel it worked. People still use CCs, Paypal or other payment systems, they just don't need Bitcoin and it's a hassle to get into for the average person, that's the bottomline that many can't seem to admit.

It's a thing to declare it illegal.
It's even possible to stop website exchange for example.

But it won't stop btc transaction! You'll always be able to buy or sell btc with cash!

They can try to hunt btc but they can't just forbid it.

[Zeke2345]

Nothing like having a transaction list for police to go over if they want to push the person out of the State/Province or in court.
Add in the fact that a lot of escorts work for pimps in one form or another who would not want to have all of this listed out for the escort.

Say she/he is being strung out on drugs for the sole purpose of them not knowing how many people they service. They could look at the addy and realize it was a lot more than 30 dudes in that bukake session.

[morantis]

A couple years back this would have a lot easier as it would have been nearly legal for girls or guys to accept BTC in exchange for sex.  After the Silk Road issues, it is now nearly useless for them, other than they would not have to carry the cash on them.