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May 19, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
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Lunch works better if you guys can.

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May 19, 2013, 03:09:54 PM
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what are the freebies you guys get ?

T-shirts from the registration. Also, at various company desks I've seen stickers, buttons, and even chocolate bitcoins. At our desk by BitcoinStore we have more stickers, buttons, and jars of snacks, and Casascius stopped by and dropped off a few aluminum bitcoins without private key stickers. There have also been the sponsored/hosted parties with free booze and food.
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Worth every satoshi I paid
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May 19, 2013, 03:26:07 PM
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Worth every satoshi I paid

Agreed.

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May 19, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
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Worth every satoshi I paid

Agreed.

And now I know who you are  Wink

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May 19, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
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The alt chains panel had Chris Larsen of Ripple. I can't say that I was convinced that ripple was decentralized.


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I am interested what Charles Lee sad about Litecoin?
he should be speaking atm...

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May 19, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
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The alt chains panel had Chris Larsen of Ripple. I can't say that I was convinced that ripple was decentralized.

I can't say I was convinced that your t-shirt was torquoise, but then again, I may have to have my gay card revoked >.<
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Saw this guy in first class on the way home. Anyone know the old geezer? He looks like he had an eventful weekend, too. Must have been partying at the convention next door to ours.

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Thorough enjoyed meeting so many people at the conference!

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Saw this guy in first class on the way home. Anyone know the old geezer? He looks like he had an eventful weekend, too. Must have been partying at the convention next door to ours.



no, i think i saw him in the mining session. Grin
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Saw this guy in first class on the way home. Anyone know the old geezer? He looks like he had an eventful weekend, too. Must have been partying at the convention next door to ours.


no, i think i saw him in the mining session. Grin

Somehow I doubt that  Roll Eyes

Though I could TOTALLY see Tony Stark (Iron Man) as a bitcoiner.
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Saw this guy in first class on the way home. Anyone know the old geezer? He looks like he had an eventful weekend, too. Must have been partying at the convention next door to ours.



That's Stan Lee. He was signing autographs at the comic convention next door. I wonder if the guy on the left even has a clue about who is sitting next to him.

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Looks at wiki image looks at photo looks at where Stan Lee was during that period
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Bitcoin's major hurdle to overcome:   Stan Lee tells more credible stories than 90% of the "bitcoin elite". 

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I flew in from London to attend the conference and thought it was great.  My main observations and reflections were:

* The quality of the dialogue was extremely high.  A core understanding of Bitcoin and how it works was assumed - which enabled the discussions (lunch, panels, presentations, etc) to focus on more advanced topics.   Examples: the frequent references to coloured (sorry, "colored") coins, the altcoin panel and the various speakers on payments system (e.g. BitPay and Paymium)  --- they all assumed an intelligent *and* knowledgeable audience, which allowed them to go far further than a typical conference session.

===> Reflection:  this was great for a conference such as this but we should not forget that almost everybody in the world who was *not* at the conference is still struggling with the core Bitcoin concept, if they've even heard of it....  i.e. people leaving the conference shouldn't make the mistake of assuming everybody *else* thinks this way or has come this far in their thinking when we get home...

* There was a pervasive sense of optimism:  most speakers took it as a given that Bitcoin (or a successor) is going to change the world and that the only question is how quickly and who builds the most successful platforms/exchanges/products/tools, etc.

* The colored coin concept is HUGELY powerful - I had thought it an interesting diversion before I came but, after it was explained a few times, it made me realise just how versatile the core "distributed ledger" metaphor really it.   

* The Paytunia/Paymium presenter included a *really* powerful slide that I think could be used to explain Bitcoin in more contexts.  It had three diagrams.  1) four boxes representing the Visa/Mastercard payment system (merchant/merchant acquirer/issuer/customer), 2) three boxes representing Amex/Paypal and 3) two boxes representing cash and Bitcoin - i.e. direct payment from payer to seller with no intermediaries, etc.   In one chart, it explained why Bitcoin was different to everything that has gone before and justified the claim of others that Bitcoin is "cash with wings".   I presented on the conference to some colleagues yesterday evening and used this slide --- it helped their understanding immensely.   

* I was hugely impressed by Gavin.  Beforehand, I wasn't sure what to expect from his "state of the coin" keynote but I thought the tone was just right.  It was essentially a list of: "here are the things I worry about" --- *exactly* what I would expect from a chief architect/lead developer on a complex project.  I thought he got the tone just right

* I must admit I walked out of Charlie Shrem's pitch - it was rambling, unprepared and barely coherent.  Odd - I was expecting much more.

* I caught the end of Erik Voorhee's talk and all of his panel discussion.  Both were excellent. He is extremely eloquent, articulate and thoughtful in how he presents the topic.

===> Reflection: I don't think his style would translate well in all cultures - his political worldview influences his choice of language (understandably and deliberately) but I suspect this would result in the phenomenon of him and an interviewer "talking past each other" in, say, the UK.  Something for him and others to consider as Bitcoin awareness spreads and mainstream outlets increasingly invite Bitcoin experts to interview


All-in-all, a great conference and I left convinced that "math-based currencies" are going to change the world.
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I flew in from London to attend the conference and thought it was great.  My main observations and reflections were:

* The quality of the dialogue was extremely high.  A core understanding of Bitcoin and how it works was assumed - which enabled the discussions (lunch, panels, presentations, etc) to focus on more advanced topics.   Examples: the frequent references to coloured (sorry, "colored") coins, the altcoin panel and the various speakers on payments system (e.g. BitPay and Paymium)  --- they all assumed an intelligent *and* knowledgeable audience, which allowed them to go far further than a typical conference session.

If I have to sit through one more presentation which starts out with a history lesson about 'first, humans used barter, then blah, blah, blah' I swear I'm going to puke.  I walked out of at least one presentation at the start for this reason.

About the only thing which is more annoying is when a person asking a question takes 5 minutes of everyone else's time to describe how much they want to suck the presenter's dick or whatever.  Sometimes they don't even get to the question at all.

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* The colored coin concept is HUGELY powerful - I had thought it an interesting diversion before I came but, after it was explained a few times, it made me realise just how versatile the core "distributed ledger" metaphor really it.   

Of course.  Everyone likes a free lunch and sees a way to get rich by sponging off the work of others.

* The Paytunia/Paymium presenter included a *really* powerful slide that I think could be used to explain Bitcoin in more contexts.  It had three diagrams.  1) four boxes representing the Visa/Mastercard payment system (merchant/merchant acquirer/issuer/customer), 2) three boxes representing Amex/Paypal and 3) two boxes representing cash and Bitcoin - i.e. direct payment from payer to seller with no intermediaries, etc.   In one chart, it explained why Bitcoin was different to everything that has gone before and justified the claim of others that Bitcoin is "cash with wings".   I presented on the conference to some colleagues yesterday evening and used this slide --- it helped their understanding immensely.

I missed Boussac's presentations being more interested in the tech end of things, but got a chance to catch up with him in person.  Paymium either bought or was given coins that I entrusted with ~jav, then either lost or stole them.  This gave me a good reason to wish to meet him.  Pleasant conversation in spite of the misfortune though.

* I was hugely impressed by Gavin.  Beforehand, I wasn't sure what to expect from his "state of the coin" keynote but I thought the tone was just right.  It was essentially a list of: "here are the things I worry about" --- *exactly* what I would expect from a chief architect/lead developer on a complex project.  I thought he got the tone just right

I didn't meet up with him this time, but I've met him in the past.  I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about what he would do if the government 'just said no' to Bitcoin.  No danger of figuring that out at something like the conference though so I was not to surprised.

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* I caught the end of Erik Voorhee's talk and all of his panel discussion.  Both were excellent. He is extremely eloquent, articulate and thoughtful in how he presents the topic.

Didn't get a chance to say 'Hi' to Erik either, and kind of wanted to since we worked on a minor project in the distant past.  As for being 'thoughtful', if he had done anything more than regurgitate Austrian school hokum and bunkum I'd be shocked.  Again, I found more interesting things to see so I missed his stuff.

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My favorite presentation was Eli Ben-Sasson's thing.  I can see a large number of places where the work could be applicable to distributed-crypto-currency-like systems and tangential tasks.  I'll be looking forward with great interests to developments in his team's work.


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Did you go to the same conference, or killed time instead at the comic convention next door?

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About the only thing which is more annoying is when a person asking a question takes 5 minutes of everyone else's time to describe how much they want to suck the presenter's dick or whatever.  Sometimes they don't even get to the question at all.


Agreed. One problem common to almost all the panel sessions was the inexperience of the moderators.  An experienced moderator knows you don't passively sit there, asking every panellist to comment on every question, that the questioners needs to get to the point and that the key to a good panel is *controversy* or debate.... exploring areas of dispute/disagreement is a great way to get to the heart of the panel.   An hour of listening to people say "I agree" is not ideal.


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* The colored coin concept is HUGELY powerful - I had thought it an interesting diversion before I came but, after it was explained a few times, it made me realise just how versatile the core "distributed ledger" metaphor really it.   

Of course.  Everyone likes a free lunch and sees a way to get rich by sponging off the work of others.

Not sure I understand.  What are you objecting to?  The repupurposing of the bitcoin network for the tracking of real-world assets? something else?

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