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February 13, 2016, 06:15:55 AM |
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remember nodes over a year old cannot be automatically classed as desiring 1mb.. they have not shown any direction since the debate has begun, so best to leave them outside in a undecided category
Of course they can. They're enforcing the 1MB limit. If their operators didn't desire to enforce the consensus rules, they wouldn't run a node. And where the hell do you get a year, anyway? You just constantly make up the rules as you go along. Anyway, this is just meaningless blathering. The fact is, those nodes are enforcing a 1MB limit. So if a miner publishes > 1MB blocks, they'll just fork them off. You can call them "undecided" all you want, but it's not very accurate. They are by definition decided: anything above 1MB is invalid.
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February 13, 2016, 06:39:20 AM |
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Pure propaganda site to boost alternative implementations to Bitcoin Core. If you want a true reflection of all the nodes, rather browse to https://coin.dance/nodes .... They not shy to show who the King of the Hill is. ..... It is actually a joke, that these people are pointing fingers at other people for censoring information and then they do the same thing.
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February 13, 2016, 08:30:23 AM |
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remember nodes over a year old cannot be automatically classed as desiring 1mb.. they have not shown any direction since the debate has begun, so best to leave them outside in a undecided category
Of course they can. They're enforcing the 1MB limit. If their operators didn't desire to enforce the consensus rules, they wouldn't run a node. And where the hell do you get a year, anyway? You just constantly make up the rules as you go along. Anyway, this is just meaningless blathering. The fact is, those nodes are enforcing a 1MB limit. So if a miner publishes > 1MB blocks, they'll just fork them off. You can call them "undecided" all you want, but it's not very accurate. They are by definition decided: anything above 1MB is invalid. i also see it like that, because undecided does not make sense, if they do not decide to go with the new limit, then they are basically saying "we stay with the current limit", since there is no deadline here, they can potentially stay "undecided" forever which is utterly no-sense
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February 13, 2016, 09:08:56 AM |
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i also see it like that, because undecided does not make sense, if they do not decide to go with the new limit, then they are basically saying "we stay with the current limit", since there is no deadline here, they can potentially stay "undecided" forever
which is utterly no-sense
now your speculating.. you just dont know their intentions. so best to treat them as undecided. im not saying they want 2mb or they want segwit.. there is just lack of proof either way. so obviously best to take them out of the equation until its obvious..(by them updating) so my mindset is by not keeping up to date. they are not voting for 2mb and they are equally not voting for segwit.. they are just undecided. you cant assume they want segwit, you cant assume they want 2mb
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February 13, 2016, 10:44:22 AM |
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i also see it like that, because undecided does not make sense, if they do not decide to go with the new limit, then they are basically saying "we stay with the current limit", since there is no deadline here, they can potentially stay "undecided" forever
which is utterly no-sense
now your speculating.. you just dont know their intentions. so best to treat them as undecided. im not saying they want 2mb or they want segwit.. there is just lack of proof either way. so obviously best to take them out of the equation until its obvious..(by them updating) so my mindset is by not keeping up to date. they are not voting for 2mb and they are equally not voting for segwit.. they are just undecided. you cant assume they want segwit, you cant assume they want 2mb but we can assume that they want to remain with 1mb, if no decision is made it mean that they like to stay in the current situation, until they change their mind, their decision is already settled, which is again 1mb basically they are voting indirectly, the 1mb limit, by remaining undecided, there is no "no voting" ever, you either vote something or something else, that's my point
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February 13, 2016, 10:49:31 AM |
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i also see it like that, because undecided does not make sense, if they do not decide to go with the new limit, then they are basically saying "we stay with the current limit", since there is no deadline here, they can potentially stay "undecided" forever
which is utterly no-sense
now your speculating.. you just dont know their intentions. so best to treat them as undecided. im not saying they want 2mb or they want segwit.. there is just lack of proof either way. so obviously best to take them out of the equation until its obvious..(by them updating) so my mindset is by not keeping up to date. they are not voting for 2mb and they are equally not voting for segwit.. they are just undecided. you cant assume they want segwit, you cant assume they want 2mb but we can assume that they want to remain with 1mb, if no decision is made it mean that they like to stay in the current situation, until they change their mind, their decision is already settled, which is again 1mb basically they are voting indirectly, the 1mb limit, by remaining undecided, there is no "no voting" ever, you either vote something or something else, that's my point lol and in april. when segwit is a thing.. you will switch mindsets. and say, well they havnt voted for segwit. but it doesnt matter lets put them as undecided.. cant have it both ways.. so best to side line that crowd until its obvious what they want.. anything else is just speculation
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February 13, 2016, 12:24:27 PM |
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i also see it like that, because undecided does not make sense, if they do not decide to go with the new limit, then they are basically saying "we stay with the current limit", since there is no deadline here, they can potentially stay "undecided" forever
which is utterly no-sense
now your speculating.. you just dont know their intentions. so best to treat them as undecided. im not saying they want 2mb or they want segwit.. there is just lack of proof either way. so obviously best to take them out of the equation until its obvious..(by them updating) so my mindset is by not keeping up to date. they are not voting for 2mb and they are equally not voting for segwit.. they are just undecided. you cant assume they want segwit, you cant assume they want 2mb but we can assume that they want to remain with 1mb, if no decision is made it mean that they like to stay in the current situation, until they change their mind, their decision is already settled, which is again 1mb basically they are voting indirectly, the 1mb limit, by remaining undecided, there is no "no voting" ever, you either vote something or something else, that's my point lol and in april. when segwit is a thing.. you will switch mindsets. and say, well they havnt voted for segwit. but it doesnt matter lets put them as undecided.. cant have it both ways.. so best to side line that crowd until its obvious what they want.. anything else is just speculation i'll simply say that they are now with segwit or with classic or whatever, but for now they are with 1mb limit, this because there is no deadline, it's all about personal consensus if there was a deadline then the whole argument about being undecided would make more sense
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