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February 06, 2016, 05:35:21 PM
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Bitcoin Classic Nodes Surge Following Beta 2 Release: https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-classic-nodes-surge-following-beta-2-release/



Are you going to switch? (or may already have)
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February 06, 2016, 05:40:56 PM
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Changelog? I don't see why their node count had a bump... Maybe nodes of their own? Just someone setting up many? Or maybe just lack of updates on XT and users switching from XT to Classic (seems to kind of be the case if we look at the charts)

I'll definitely switch if they can deploy and have their changes running in the network faster than Core Smiley They still say their releases are experimental and not suitable for mining...
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February 06, 2016, 05:46:24 PM
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Again, node numbers mean absolutely nothing. Here's a tutorial on how to run 3000 completely legitimate nodes simultaneously.  Roll Eyes

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3iao3i/how_to_run_3000_completely_legit_full_nodes_aka

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February 06, 2016, 05:53:32 PM
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Again, node numbers mean absolutely nothing. Here's a tutorial on how to run 3000 completely legitimate nodes simultaneously.  Roll Eyes

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3iao3i/how_to_run_3000_completely_legit_full_nodes_aka

haha, very interesting that there is a post on reddit for it

if i am not mistaken same thing happened with bitcoin xt too?

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February 06, 2016, 06:02:15 PM
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Again, node numbers mean absolutely nothing. Here's a tutorial on how to run 3000 completely legitimate nodes simultaneously.  Roll Eyes

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3iao3i/how_to_run_3000_completely_legit_full_nodes_aka

When software doesn't even allow creating blocks under their use, the only thing we can only rely in is node numbers... Cheesy
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February 06, 2016, 06:52:19 PM
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core is still winning, by a lot



there is basically no competition
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February 06, 2016, 08:21:23 PM
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this site seems good to follow the development (no affiliation):

https://coin.dance/nodes
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February 07, 2016, 03:01:41 PM
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I am still with Core, assuming that this technology won't be replaced...
It's not yet decided by everyone to move with Classic, so I would still be going with Core as it's still the best...

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February 07, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
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Toomincoin is Classic?
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February 07, 2016, 03:35:50 PM
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Toomincoin is Classic?

Yes.
Two brothers and a bunch of shady guys like Marshall Long for instance are behind Classic.Furthermore the list of comeptent developers supporting it is small.

I will stay with Bitcoin core as they are having the most competence and understanding of Bitcoin plus the majority of developers backing it.
From a technical point of view there's no doubt imo why I should switch the client.
Regarding of what Bitcoin should be in the future I think so as well. A decentralized settlement layer where on top of that other layers and services (3rd party as well if wished and needed) can be build.But not the other way around.We already have a paypal out there.
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February 07, 2016, 03:38:50 PM
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Toomincoin is Classic?

Yes.
Two brothers and a bunch of shady guys like Marshall Long for instance are behind Classic.Furthermore the list of comeptent developers supporting it is small.

I will stay with Bitcoin core as they are having the most competence and understanding of Bitcoin plus the majority of developers backing it.
From a technical point of view there's no doubt imo why I should switch the client.
Regarding of what Bitcoin should be in the future I think so as well. A decentralized settlement layer where on top of that other layers and services (3rd party as well if wished and needed) can be build.But not the other way around.We already have a paypal out there.


So should Toomincoin win out what exactly is the fear, loss of direction, centralization and capitalistic goals?
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February 07, 2016, 03:57:07 PM
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Toomincoin is Classic?

Yes.
Two brothers and a bunch of shady guys like Marshall Long for instance are behind Classic.Furthermore the list of comeptent developers supporting it is small.

I will stay with Bitcoin core as they are having the most competence and understanding of Bitcoin plus the majority of developers backing it.
From a technical point of view there's no doubt imo why I should switch the client.
Regarding of what Bitcoin should be in the future I think so as well. A decentralized settlement layer where on top of that other layers and services (3rd party as well if wished and needed) can be build.But not the other way around.We already have a paypal out there.


So should Toomincoin win out what exactly is the fear, loss of direction, centralization and capitalistic goals?

If Toomincoin wins, the reasons for Bitcon's existence (precluding the moral hazards of majoritarianism) are extinguished.

Honey Badger cannot live as a slave.  If the Gavinistas put him in chains, he will simply die.  They cannot force him to give a shit.

The large coin holders that support Bitcoin will dump like there is literally no tomorrow, because they didn't sign up for ToominCoin.

Here is the cryptographically assured proof: http://bitcoinocracy.com/arguments/decided.


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February 07, 2016, 04:18:01 PM
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Thanks for the link!
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February 07, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
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bitcoinocracy has been spammed between every blockstream fanboy and affiliate imaginable.. thus not a fair indicator.

even Hilary clinton can get 100 people on a bus and fill a room to appear there is lots of cheering voices when she talks.
think about her champagne events to garner donations for her campaign.. yea lots of deep pockets are VIP'd with direct mailshot invites, but that doesnt mean the whole country wants her

now, as for the node count websites.
a fairer display would be to separate out bitcoin-core 0.12 from the older versions. as the older versions would represent an "undecided vote" where they havnt upgraded to 0.12 or any other implementation.

trying to combine 7 years of implementations into the bitcoin-core band camp is misleading.

so whomever owns these peer-crawler websites. separate out versions that are not 0.12 and give them the name "undecided"

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February 07, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
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There is something I don't understand.

Bitcoin core is the name of the program used to validate transactions and mine coins no?
It means that if two programs like bitcoin core and bitcoin classic are launched, they're both creating coins and validating transactions no?

Doesn't it mean that each transaction is duplicated? And that we thus can spend each coin twice?

I probably misunderstood something though :/

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February 07, 2016, 05:57:42 PM
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There is something I don't understand.

Bitcoin core is the name of the program used to validate transactions and mine coins no?
It means that if two programs like bitcoin core and bitcoin classic are launched, they're both creating coins and validating transactions no?

Doesn't it mean that each transaction is duplicated? And that we thus can spend each coin twice?

I probably misunderstood something though :/

if the majority of the nodes are not running classic, then clasic is simply an altcoin, that some miners are deciding to use

so no there is no double bitcoin ever
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February 07, 2016, 06:51:32 PM
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There is something I don't understand.

Bitcoin core is the name of the program used to validate transactions and mine coins no?
It means that if two programs like bitcoin core and bitcoin classic are launched, they're both creating coins and validating transactions no?

Doesn't it mean that each transaction is duplicated? And that we thus can spend each coin twice?

I probably misunderstood something though :/

if the majority of the nodes are not running classic, then clasic is simply an altcoin, that some miners are deciding to use

so no there is no double bitcoin ever

Ok. But what happens if majority of nodes run classic?
Will I just you know, lose my coins? If I don't expect the success of classic, bitcoin might just disappear and be replaced by... Bitcoin2?
And it may be an altcoin but it's an altcoin named bitcoin no? ^^

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February 07, 2016, 07:01:07 PM
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ill stay with core at the moment.

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February 07, 2016, 07:14:34 PM
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Ok. But what happens if majority of nodes run classic?
Will I just you know, lose my coins?

1) switch to other version of protocol (change limit created block for example, allow to create and store more than 1MB block for example).

2) no, because private key in the blockchain control coins.
you can not change blockchain ... even if majority of node use classic.

in the same time, the 0.12 RC3 of Bitcoin Core is hell good build ... rockstable !
and segwit is integrated ...
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February 07, 2016, 07:15:00 PM
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core is still winning, by a lot

there is basically no competition

that is out of context.

remember bitcoin-core <0.12 (0.11 and below) should be considered as 'undecided' as they have not upgraded since last year. and so should be in its own category.
trying to put them into the blockstream friendly category is misleading

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