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Author Topic: The BTCTalk account Jude Austin has been stolen from me, DO NOT TRUST THEM!  (Read 2267 times)
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February 07, 2016, 04:36:51 AM
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Already posted above:
If you check OP, it's an fairly old account "November 13, 2012, 02:34:34 AM",
he started with that one here, then changed to "Jude Austin", which is presumably his real name, and became Legendary with that account.

Before starting this thread, Ltcfaucet was inactive since "April 23, 2013, 05:10:00 PM".

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February 07, 2016, 04:42:07 AM
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Could you yet again confirm, that you had no control over your account from the January 22nd foreward?

Because this is getting interesting. The new "owner" had a sucessful trade with Wardrick on the 28th.
From the risked amount in his feedback (0.12btc), the date and Wardricks known addresses (had an exchange with him myself shortly later), I believe this is the related transaction.
Funds come from 13QZqN9KQQZhs2VNfgNUzw4DWW4Pn31uwJ, an address which is part of a fairly large wallet.

For example, it is connected to the address 1BSPTMigMqYsjm3rn6Fu76DNADcuaEUR8G via this transaction.

BTCSPROUT only own these addresses:
https://blockchain.info/address/1BSPTMigMqYsjm3rn6Fu76DNADcuaEUR8G
http://blockchain.info/address/1SPTPYbUgXsk6HxCz9kkCemWjBeSgwtsA
Do not spread lies about BTCSprout as I have worked extremely hard to satisfy all of my investors.

Does that mean that the account hacker and the ponzi btcsprout are connected? As in the same person behind both?

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February 07, 2016, 04:47:11 AM
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Does that mean that the account hacker and the ponzi btcsprout are connected? As in the same person behind both?
If Wardrick confirms, that this is indeed the transaction relating to the exchange with the Jude Austin account, yes, that is what I am implying.
I can also connect a few more bitcointalk accounts to those addresses, but I haven't got the time right now to post all the connections properly.

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February 07, 2016, 04:53:30 AM
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its getting worse every day. well i hope this account gets restored quickly...

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February 07, 2016, 05:09:57 AM
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If the account hacker is the btcsprout guy then you can out him, screw up his ponzi because people probably won't deposit to it anymore because he is caught for hacking accounts. But then all the ponzi investors loose there money anyway.

And just because you out the hacker as the ponzi operator does not mean that it is going to STOP him from hacking accounts..

How can the account hacks be STOPPED? Is this another case where a lot of accounts got hacked a while ago and they are slowly trickling out? Or are these accounts being hacked one by one currently even now?

I can't imagine being able to brute force the passwords with the 45 second delay and you would think admin would see that happening in time or something..

What do you think is going on with this?

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February 07, 2016, 05:14:38 AM
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If the account hacker is the btcsprout guy then you can out him, screw up his ponzi because people probably won't deposit to it anymore because he is caught for hacking accounts. But then all the ponzi investors loose there money anyway.

And just because you out the hacker as the ponzi operator does not mean that it is going to STOP him from hacking accounts..

How can the account hacks be STOPPED? Is this another case where a lot of accounts got hacked a while ago and they are slowly trickling out? Or are these accounts being hacked one by one currently even now?

I can't imagine being able to brute force the passwords with the 45 second delay and you would think admin would see that happening in time or something..

What do you think is going on with this?

Eddie13,

It's my fault it got hacked, I never changed my password after several attacks on BTCTalk, even when BTCTalk said to change the password.

I was also using an old iCloud account for the email address that I never, ever, pay attention to.

I was also just in China, highly doubt that has to do with this, but it's always a possibility.

If Wardrick confirms that transaction and I get my account back I will gather the information and make a post from this account and Jude Austin.

I am sorry for anyone who falls victim to any bad behavior while this person takes advantage of my Jude Austin account.


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February 07, 2016, 07:23:07 AM
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Edit: if you want your account back 'jude' then give back the .6BTC I paid you.

I wanted to run an exchange service (a LEGITIMATE one) hence I PURCHASED this account and I was Scammed.

Yes, this may very well be Jude Austin, though it is obvious what is going on here. The user has sold this account, did not send me the private key as promised and wants it back now that it is now Legendary, possibly to resell it and earn a higher profit.
I've owned this account for over 2 weeks now, if I wanted to scam I would have done so as soon as I got this account though I do not have ANY bad intentions!!
I was scammed, 0.4BTC (0.2BTC I guess is ok because I got the account?). He never delivered the private key hence now he is trying to recover the account.
I have no bad intentions. Please consider the evidence below before making your conclusion.

Here is the skype evidence, proof of payment, etc. This is the whole log.

chat log:
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[1/22/16, 4:06:20 PM] Palace: greetings
[1/22/16, 4:06:29 PM] Palace: you have the hero/legendary with light green trust, right?
[1/22/16, 4:07:02 PM] Palace: It's *******
[1/22/16, 4:07:53 PM] bitcoin.austin: hi
[1/22/16, 4:07:55 PM] bitcoin.austin: yes
[1/22/16, 4:07:59 PM] Palace: How much do you want
[1/22/16, 4:08:06 PM] bitcoin.austin: its hero with over 800 activity
[1/22/16, 4:08:12 PM] bitcoin.austin: can become legendary anytime
[1/22/16, 4:08:26 PM] bitcoin.austin: i want 0.6
[1/22/16, 4:08:43 PM] Palace: will you use an escrow
[1/22/16, 4:09:44 PM] Palace: ?
[1/22/16, 4:10:00 PM] Palace: I'm assuming that is a no? lol
[1/22/16, 4:10:41 PM] Palace: if you will not use escrow i want signed message + PM from this account and I will only pay 1/5th first
[1/22/16, 4:16:18 PM] bitcoin.austin: I want to use escrow for sure
[1/22/16, 4:16:32 PM] Palace: thought you went offline for a minute because i said escrow
[1/22/16, 4:16:39 PM] bitcoin.austin: I was away
[1/22/16, 4:16:40 PM] Palace: ok, i will go and find an online escrow and get them to message you
[1/22/16, 4:17:58 PM] bitcoin.austin: if you want to go without escrow then
I send message from you , you send first 1/2
after that i send you password and you send second half and then I send private key
[1/22/16, 4:18:16 PM] Palace: ok how about this
[1/22/16, 4:18:28 PM] bitcoin.austin: or find an escrow free one
or you pay any fees
[1/22/16, 4:18:32 PM] Palace: You send me a message from the account, I send you .2BTC, then you send me password, then I send .4BTC and you give me private key
[1/22/16, 4:18:55 PM] Palace: Because really , with private key and I don't pay you .4BTC you can easy get the account ruined or recovered
[1/22/16, 4:18:56 PM] Palace: true?
[1/22/16, 4:19:06 PM] Palace: and with escrow we risk exposure/alert it is purchased
[1/22/16, 4:19:06 PM] bitcoin.austin: yes
[1/22/16, 4:19:19 PM] Palace: ok send a message to '******' on bitcointalk
[1/22/16, 4:19:31 PM] Palace: and then give me your Bitcoin address once you have done it
[1/22/16, 4:19:33 PM] bitcoin.austin: ok, let me login to account
[1/22/16, 4:19:37 PM] Palace: sure
[1/22/16, 4:19:43 PM] bitcoin.austin: i will send bitcoin address in msg
[1/22/16, 4:19:49 PM] Palace: ok
[1/22/16, 4:25:41 PM] bitcoin.austin: check pm
[1/22/16, 4:26:11 PM] Palace: https://blockchain.info/tx/8e246f6878ce544223cd749d3fa7cff47bfee5b87b5cc235f90eff8793f6be90
[1/22/16, 4:26:15 PM] Palace: i have just sent you 0.2BTC
[1/22/16, 4:26:27 PM] Palace: Please send me the password, then I'll send you .4 for the private key
[1/22/16, 4:26:50 PM] bitcoin.austin: let it appear in my wallet
[1/22/16, 4:26:56 PM] bitcoin.austin: maybe it takes 1-2 minutes
[1/22/16, 4:26:59 PM] Palace: what wallet do you use
[1/22/16, 4:27:02 PM] Palace: https://blockchain.info/tx/8e246f6878ce544223cd749d3fa7cff47bfee5b87b5cc235f90eff8793f6be90
[1/22/16, 4:27:04 PM] bitcoin.austin: multibit
[1/22/16, 4:27:06 PM] Palace: it is on the blockchain....
[1/22/16, 4:27:29 PM] Palace: press refresh in multibit
[1/22/16, 4:27:38 PM] bitcoin.austin: i am restarting
[1/22/16, 4:27:40 PM] Palace: multibit is usually instant.
[1/22/16, 4:27:43 PM] Palace: :|
[1/22/16, 4:27:47 PM] Palace: this is not a good sign lol
[1/22/16, 4:27:50 PM] Palace: sound like you're buying time
[1/22/16, 4:28:00 PM] Palace: because the .2 is on the blockchain that is proof you have it
[1/22/16, 4:28:15 PM] bitcoin.austin: bro if you think i am time waster i can refund
i am just confirming it
[1/22/16, 4:28:21 PM] Palace: no i do not think that
[1/22/16, 4:28:30 PM] Palace: sorry, I've just got a lot of bad experience
[1/22/16, 4:28:36 PM] Palace: I've been scammed many times on bitcointalk :S
[1/22/16, 4:28:54 PM] bitcoin.austin: me too when someone used almost same vanity address yesterday for fake escrow
[1/22/16, 4:29:10 PM] bitcoin.austin: anyway i copied address from my wallet and checked on blockchain, its there
[1/22/16, 4:29:12 PM] Palace: oh yes i saw that thread on BCT…They try to fake OGNasty?
[1/22/16, 4:29:19 PM] Palace: ok great Cheesy
[1/22/16, 4:29:26 PM] Palace: send me the PW and I will send the remaining 0.40 BTC
[1/22/16, 4:29:32 PM] bitcoin.austin: yes
even he made vanity address for this
[1/22/16, 4:29:53 PM] Palace: some people go to long extents for money :/
[1/22/16, 4:31:01 PM] bitcoin.austin: ok
send you password on forum or her
[1/22/16, 4:31:11 PM] Palace: here
[1/22/16, 4:31:24 PM] bitcoin.austin: k1ll3rb33
[1/22/16, 4:31:30 PM] bitcoin.austin: its the password
[1/22/16, 4:33:12 PM] Palace: ok great! now for private key
[1/22/16, 4:33:17 PM] Palace: do I send 0.40BTC to the same address?
[1/22/16, 4:33:20 PM] bitcoin.austin: yes
[1/22/16, 4:33:48 PM] bitcoin.austin: why previous tx isn't confirmed yet
i am still waiting for confirmation
[1/22/16, 4:33:56 PM] Palace: ok
[1/22/16, 4:34:06 PM] Palace: last block 54 minutes ago -_-
[1/22/16, 4:34:10 PM] Palace: https://blockchain.info/
[1/22/16, 4:34:12 PM] bitcoin.austin: yes
[1/22/16, 4:34:26 PM] bitcoin.austin: no block since last 1 hour
[1/22/16, 4:34:32 PM] Palace: unlucky us lol
[1/22/16, 4:34:44 PM] bitcoin.austin: (cwl)  true
[1/22/16, 4:35:04 PM] Palace: so, out of my curiosity, why you want to sell such a good account Smiley
[1/22/16, 4:35:31 PM] bitcoin.austin: because its not usefull for me
i am not posting for signatures
[1/22/16, 4:35:38 PM] bitcoin.austin: and what else i can do with this
[1/22/16, 4:35:49 PM] Palace: yes i know, that is what i am doing also
[1/22/16, 4:35:52 PM] Palace: sig posting
[1/22/16, 4:36:07 PM] bitcoin.austin: signatures are good if you are active
[1/22/16, 4:36:14 PM] bitcoin.austin: but i m not much active
[1/22/16, 4:37:56 PM] bitcoin.austin: i waited 2 months to become it legendary and sell it but was unlucky
[1/22/16, 4:38:05 PM] bitcoin.austin: so decided to sell as it is
[1/22/16, 4:38:16 PM] bitcoin.austin: i have seen legendary sells for above 1 btc
[1/22/16, 4:38:48 PM] bitcoin.austin: it has 840 activity but no legendary , its called badluck
[1/22/16, 4:39:33 PM] bitcoin.austin: 1 hour 0 minutes
[1/22/16, 4:39:47 PM] Palace: we are extremely unlucky lol
[1/22/16, 4:39:48 PM] bitcoin.austin: (:|
[1/22/16, 4:39:55 PM] Palace: and yes i know 840 with no legendary
[1/22/16, 4:39:57 PM] Palace: is very bad luck
[1/22/16, 4:40:07 PM] Palace: but hopefully soon (for me) it might be legendary? lol Wink
[1/22/16, 4:40:28 PM] bitcoin.austin: ha ha
good luck, maybe after ownership changes
luck also changes
[1/22/16, 4:40:58 PM] Palace: maybe but for the moment, both of us having bad luck with blockchain.info blocks
[1/22/16, 4:41:06 PM] bitcoin.austin: there is something wrong with blockchain
[1/22/16, 4:41:19 PM] Palace: it was being DDoS'd about 15m minutes ago
[1/22/16, 4:41:19 PM] bitcoin.austin: check footer
[1/22/16, 4:41:20 PM] bitcoin.austin: Not Connected (0 Nodes Connected)
[1/22/16, 4:41:29 PM] Palace: hmm interesting
[1/22/16, 4:42:19 PM] bitcoin.austin: you sent from blockchain?
[1/22/16, 4:42:23 PM] Palace: yes
[1/22/16, 4:42:24 PM] bitcoin.austin: http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1A2numTDoyrsgSgpqaD7Pp3KAMQ4UAkLyy
[1/22/16, 4:42:34 PM] Palace: yes i also saw that
[1/22/16, 4:42:43 PM] Palace: now we need to wait for blockchain to fix node problem
[1/22/16, 4:42:47 PM] bitcoin.austin: its not connected thats why multibit wasn't showing it
[1/22/16, 4:42:48 PM] Palace: we are EXTREMELY unlucky now.
[1/22/16, 4:42:53 PM] bitcoin.austin: yes
[1/22/16, 4:42:53 PM] Palace: yes, that makes sense now
[1/22/16, 4:42:58 PM] Palace: i check on other explorers, no such transaction
[1/22/16, 4:43:03 PM] Palace: but it has been sent according to blockchain
[1/22/16, 4:43:06 PM] bitcoin.austin: yes
[1/22/16, 4:43:10 PM] Palace: just 0% nodes
[1/22/16, 4:43:30 PM] bitcoin.austin: lets wait for them to connect to some nodes and broadcast the tx
[1/22/16, 4:43:33 PM] Palace: of course
[1/22/16, 4:44:23 PM] bitcoin.austin: brb 5 minutes
[1/22/16, 4:44:32 PM] Palace: sure, i will be here
[1/22/16, 4:53:48 PM] bitcoin.austin: Blockchain.info  is currently experiencing  periods of downtime - our team is investigating & will keep you updated.
[1/22/16, 4:53:59 PM] bitcoin.austin: https://twitter.com/blockchain
[1/22/16, 4:54:00 PM] Palace: man, we are very unlucky people
[1/22/16, 4:54:10 PM] bitcoin.austin: (rofl)
[1/22/16, 4:54:49 PM] bitcoin.austin: finally
[1/22/16, 4:54:54 PM] bitcoin.austin: 240 nodes
[1/22/16, 4:55:17 PM] Palace: yes, hopefully transaction is next in block
[1/22/16, 4:55:35 PM] bitcoin.austin: i doubt
there will a lot of pending transactions
[1/22/16, 4:55:44 PM] Palace: yes tell me about it
[1/22/16, 4:55:48 PM] Palace: i'll still wait for it
[1/22/16, 5:03:13 PM] Palace: Check! Two confirmations Smiley
[1/22/16, 5:03:16 PM] Palace: We can continue ?
[1/22/16, 5:08:32 PM] Palace: Huh
[1/22/16, 5:16:01 PM] bitcoin.austin: sorry, was away
[1/22/16, 5:16:04 PM] bitcoin.austin: it was fast
[1/22/16, 5:16:18 PM] bitcoin.austin: tx got 6 confirmation within few minutes
[1/22/16, 5:16:29 PM] bitcoin.austin: send next 0.4 please
[1/22/16, 5:16:36 PM] bitcoin.austin: bitcoin address is same
[1/22/16, 5:17:04 PM] Palace: Ok which address
[1/22/16, 5:17:55 PM] bitcoin.austin: same
[1/22/16, 5:18:23 PM] Palace: Send again I'm on mobile now
[1/22/16, 5:18:29 PM] bitcoin.austin: 1A2numTDoyrsgSgpqaD7Pp3KAMQ4UAkLyy
[1/22/16, 5:26:58 PM] bitcoin.austin: Huh
[1/22/16, 5:27:41 PM] Palace: One min trying to send from mobi
[1/22/16, 5:27:51 PM] bitcoin.austin: ok
[1/22/16, 5:28:04 PM] bitcoin.austin: (brb) 10 minutes
[1/22/16, 5:28:13 PM] Palace: I just sent to you
[1/22/16, 5:28:18 PM] Palace: .4
[1/22/16, 5:28:34 PM] bitcoin.austin: ok, i can see in my multibit
[1/22/16, 5:30:02 PM] bitcoin.austin: tx isn't confirmed yet
i am still waiting for confirmation
[1/22/16, 5:30:29 PM] Palace: No problem
[1/22/16, 6:10:46 PM] Palace: 4 confirmations
[1/22/16, 6:36:08 PM] Palace: :/
[1/22/16, 6:36:16 PM] Palace: You here ? I need the private key
[1/22/16, 6:42:55 PM] Palace: ?
[1/23/16, 6:21:34 AM] Palace: :|
[1/23/16, 6:21:41 AM] Palace: I am waiting for private key
[1/23/16, 6:21:49 AM] Palace: I sent you BTC long time ago now
[1/25/16, 9:46:17 PM] Palace: scammer.

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You truly are one pathetic individual.

I would never sell my BTCTalk account, especially for .6 BTC.

I make more than .6 BTC a day at work.

It amazes me the effort you are putting into this scam, you must be a very special kind of human being.

Just give me my account back, simple as that, you will not extort me, I will not pay a ransom.

I do not support terrorist and right now, you sir, are a terrorist.

I will get my account back you pathetic fool.

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February 07, 2016, 07:32:23 AM
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Well I had a hunch that you are not the original account. One thing that I do not understand however, why does the pass change not show up on the seclog considering its just been 2 weeks since you bought the account.

And who did you buy the account from? And are you willing to give login access to a trusted member to see the PM log is still available?
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February 07, 2016, 07:44:04 AM
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Well I had a hunch that you are not the original account. One thing that I do not understand however, why does the pass change not show up on the seclog considering its just been 2 weeks since you bought the account.

And who did you buy the account from? And are you willing to give login access to a trusted member to see the PM log is still available?
more than happy to give access to the skype account as well as the account that original set up the deal on bitcointalk if that is asked of me. I have no bad intentions, as stated earlier.
while I am still willing to prove this, I think the best course of action is to scrap this account to prevent it going into the wrong hands. If the previous owner scammed me for 0.6BTC what's not to say he won't do the same to anyone else?
I think it's best someone else takes control of this account, I think contacting shorena for his 'account deletion' service is the best course of action.

If you truly had no bad intentions then you would have created a brand new account and built up your own reputation as a "legitimate" exchange.

If you truly had no bad intentions then you would give the account back to it's rightful owner. (ME)

I have already proven that I am the owner of the account.

If you truly purchased this account there would be more than one password change recently, there would be two, one from the person who sold it, and one from you for changing the password from the person who sold it.

If you really are a decent person then please give me my account back.

I did not sell my account, it was stolen, I have no reason to sell the account that I have had for years.

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February 07, 2016, 07:46:04 AM
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more than happy to give access to the skype account as well as the account that original set up the deal on bitcointalk if that is asked of me. I have no bad intentions, as stated earlier.
while I am still willing to prove this, I think the best course of action is to scrap this account to prevent it going into the wrong hands. If the previous owner scammed me for 0.6BTC what's not to say he won't do the same to anyone else?
I think it's best someone else takes control of this account, I think contacting shorena for his 'account deletion' service is the best course of action. I will suffer the 0.6btc loss as i have nearly made it back through the exchange service alone. so it is not much of a burden for me.
Well firstly its not proven that the previous owner did scam you, or just was a hacker who took advantage of you. Secondly, who exactly was the person you bought the account from? Which account did you use before this one? And can you give control of that account to have a look at the PM logs? Lastly, shorena's SAD service is long since closed, and he would take a fee for it if it was not, which'd be quite high for this one.
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February 07, 2016, 08:04:06 AM
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Not to mention in a previous response to me calling you out you said you have been a member for years, now you are saying you've only had this account for two weeks?

I don't know how much more I need to do to get my account back but this should suffice:
Send a PM to theymos with the signaed message , the link where the post was posted/quoted(at least an year, considering the rank of the account) and the account profile. Theymos does recover hacked accounts but might not do so/take a long time because of the drama.
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Not to mention in a previous response to me calling you out you said you have been a member for years, now you are saying you've only had this account for two weeks?

I don't know how much more I need to do to get my account back but this should suffice:
Send a PM to theymos with the signaed message , the link where the post was posted/quoted(at least an year, considering the rank of the account) and the account profile. Theymos does recover hacked accounts but might not do so/take a long time because of the drama.

I have sent Theymos the information.

Now just playing the waiting game, this sucks!

It's 2AM here, I need to go to sleep.

Hopefully when I wake up this will be resolved and I can contact the people this person has been doing business with and clear my name (literally).

Have a good night!


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Not to mention in a previous response to me calling you out you said you have been a member for years, now you are saying you've only had this account for two weeks?

I don't know how much more I need to do to get my account back but this should suffice:
Send a PM to theymos with the signaed message , the link where the post was posted/quoted(at least an year, considering the rank of the account) and the account profile. Theymos does recover hacked accounts but might not do so/take a long time because of the drama.

I have sent Theymos the information.

Now just playing the waiting game, this sucks!

It's 2AM here, I need to go to sleep.

Hopefully when I wake up this will be resolved and I can contact the people this person has been doing business with and clear my name (literally).

Have a good night!



I will be sending a message to theymos with all login information + proof that I purchased this account, and requesting a closure/ban/nuke of it. Scammer.

You're hilarious, do what you want, I will be happy that you aren't dragging my name through the dirt!

Good night!
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Not to mention in a previous response to me calling you out you said you have been a member for years, now you are saying you've only had this account for two weeks?

I don't know how much more I need to do to get my account back but this should suffice:
Send a PM to theymos with the signaed message , the link where the post was posted/quoted(at least an year, considering the rank of the account) and the account profile. Theymos does recover hacked accounts but might not do so/take a long time because of the drama.

I have sent Theymos the information.

Now just playing the waiting game, this sucks!

It's 2AM here, I need to go to sleep.

Hopefully when I wake up this will be resolved and I can contact the people this person has been doing business with and clear my name (literally).

Have a good night!



I will be sending a message to theymos with all login information + proof that I purchased this account, and requesting a closure/ban/nuke of it. Scammer.

You're hilarious, do what you want, I will be happy that you aren't dragging my name through the dirt!

Good night!
I never had any intention of dragging anyones name in the dirt hence I haven't committed any wrong doing in the 2 weeks i've owned this account..
if I had any bad intentions don't you think I could have finished by now?


Buddy, then return what is mine, that's all I am asking.

I didn't scam you, I got my account stolen, and they sold it to you, I am very sorry about this.

You should have told me from the very beginning that you bought the account from someone and I would have compensated you to get it back.

But you responded in a very scammer-ish way and like I said before, I will not compensate you.

Why on Earth would I sell an account that I have had for years using my REAL NAME?
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February 07, 2016, 09:11:31 AM
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Just do the right thing, please.

I'm going to sleep now.
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February 07, 2016, 10:17:25 AM
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Just a heads up, dont look for theymos for a solution. The last issue similar to this took 6 months to resolve.

#1 Jude is the original owner.
#2 the new owner paid 0.6 BTC for the account.
#3 Jude can not proof that they did not sell the account themselves.

I will suggest what I suggest last time, meet in the middle, share the loss, as -again- you both are to blame.

The new owner did not properly check that they indeed dealt with the original owner.
The original owner did not properly secure the account.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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February 07, 2016, 10:43:42 AM
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Just a heads up, dont look for theymos for a solution. The last issue similar to this took 6 months to resolve.

#1 Jude is the original owner.
#2 the new owner paid 0.6 BTC for the account.
#3 Jude can not proof that they did not sell the account themselves.

I will suggest what I suggest last time, meet in the middle, share the loss, as -again- you both are to blame.

The new owner did not properly check that they indeed dealt with the original owner.
The original owner did not properly secure the account.
No, I do not believe I am to blame and here is why...

1. when I purchased the account, who ever was in possession promised the PRIVATE KEY so that the account could not be recovered
2. once the whole .6BTC was sent, I waited for the private key and never received it

A signed message can be provided in advance, I would have expected you to ask for one given the high amount of btc you paid.

I do not think I could have done anything else to prevent this from happening. I believe it is 100% "Jude Austin's" fault since they did not properly secure their account and now we are both in a loss, with a scammer 0.6BTC in his hands.

I am not giving up the account unless:
A. We both agree to delete all content on it
B. I am reimbursed 0.6BTC

That is fair, I don't see why option A. is such a problem since only a few posts ago he said that it was not the account he wanted, just wanted to protect his reputation.

I dont know about option A, but B is apparently shifting all the blame to original owner and none to you. Its not an agreement or a meeting in the middle, its that you get what you want.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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February 07, 2016, 10:50:13 AM
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Just a heads up, dont look for theymos for a solution. The last issue similar to this took 6 months to resolve.

#1 Jude is the original owner.
#2 the new owner paid 0.6 BTC for the account.
#3 Jude can not proof that they did not sell the account themselves.

I will suggest what I suggest last time, meet in the middle, share the loss, as -again- you both are to blame.

The new owner did not properly check that they indeed dealt with the original owner.
The original owner did not properly secure the account.
No, I do not believe I am to blame and here is why...

1. when I purchased the account, who ever was in possession promised the PRIVATE KEY so that the account could not be recovered
2. once the whole .6BTC was sent, I waited for the private key and never received it

A signed message can be provided in advance, I would have expected you to ask for one given the high amount of btc you paid.

I do not think I could have done anything else to prevent this from happening. I believe it is 100% "Jude Austin's" fault since they did not properly secure their account and now we are both in a loss, with a scammer 0.6BTC in his hands.

I am not giving up the account unless:
A. We both agree to delete all content on it
B. I am reimbursed 0.6BTC

That is fair, I don't see why option A. is such a problem since only a few posts ago he said that it was not the account he wanted, just wanted to protect his reputation.

I dont know about option A, but B is apparently shifting all the blame to original owner and none to you. Its not an agreement or a meeting in the middle, its that you get what you want.
Describe how in any way I am to blame for this?

You failed to properly check that you dealt with the original owner. You fell for the "I will give you later".

For keeping the account in good standing for 2 weeks after 'purchase' and now have to deal with this rubbish?
Sorry but most account sales here, especially for an account of this quality, usually do not last 1 week before they start scamming or taking peoples BTC. I think some credit needs to be given where it is due here that I have done the right thing and continue to do the right thing by cooperating with this member.
I do not see why I should receive any blame for this matter when all I have done is try to cooperate.

Thats not the point. The point is that its very likely that neither of you will get the cake and eat it as well. Meet in the middle or somewhere else you two can agree on.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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Thats not the point. The point is that its very likely that neither of you will get the cake and eat it as well. Meet in the middle or somewhere else you two can agree on.
I'm already going way beyond halfway for him...why?

I purchased this account when it was hero....the account value with +10 +2 trust (which is what I worked it up to from +10 +1) makes the account worth 2+BTC with the post quality, trust, posts, etc.

For one you cant have increased the rating by 10 in two weeks, thats not how the trust system works and the only positive rating from someone off DT 2 is by wardrick.

If I decided to resell the account I could have made a LOT more than I bought it for. The whole community knows this.

You cant resell it though.

As well as this, I spent 0.2BTC and then got access to the account....sent the remaining 0.4BTC and then poof, he was gone.

I would have used an escrow, though escrows here mark accounts when they are sold. Which in itself is a huge issue.

Never heard of a less convincing reason to not use escrow.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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February 07, 2016, 11:46:28 AM
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It doesn't matter anymore.

I will systematically destroy the value of my very own account with the sole intention to teach people to quit buying accounts.

It's people like you that fund people to do unacceptable things.

If nobody bought user accounts for the sole purpose of taking advantage of their age and or reputation then people wouldn't make a job out of taking them from people.

You wouldn't be out .6 BTC (highly doubt it) and I wouldn't be missing my precious user name.

No, I would not be out .6BTC
Now this is where I say SECURE YOUR ACCOUNT and this drama would not have happened in the first place.
I'm deleting the posts as soon as I get some available time

I think also if you will delete thm, once the original owner when will come back in possession of the account can easily ask theymos to recover all the deleted posts. For me it seems like a threat (for your error , when you bought the account).
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