Iraqi immigrant rapes 10yr old in Vienna, due to "accumulation of sexual energy"

[Ernstew]

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

[youdamushi]

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

He makes the headlines cause he's a migrant. But crazy motherfuckers are everywhere and in every race you know?

[Ernstew]

i didn't say that in other races are no pedophiles and raping but this is obvious that all attacks that we read now made 'refugees' and in fact i don't remember recently that something similar happened in Vienna before this invasion

[salinizm]

Chop his penis into pieces, that'll release all the energy.

yes , you are definitely right .. goverments must change their law system...

[bizerinm]

Sever punishments for pedophiles so horrors like this wont happen again..what will be with this creature from Iraq?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Well it's not the stupidest reason for rape I guess...? 

But this is a headline (and post here on bct) that reeks of sensationalism.  Doesn't matter if the rapist is an Iraqi immigrant or that it was a child.  These things, while horrible, happen all the time.  There's nothing special about this, though I definitely wouldn't say that to the parents here.  It's just that the headline wants to imply more than is there, i.e., that the child rape is due to the person being Iraqi and an immigrant.  No?

Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking.  Got it.  Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

[eon89]

Sever punishments for pedophiles so horrors like this wont happen again..what will be with this creature from Iraq?

We shouldn't become like them. But chemical castration would be appropriate.

[Spendulus]

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

He makes the headlines cause he's a migrant. But crazy motherfuckers are everywhere and in every race you know?

No.  Any city, there are some areas you feel safe and some you don't walk through certain hours of the night.  Crazy motherfuckers are NOT EVERYWHERE.

[mrflibblehat]

You mean to say that swimming pools are "bad areas of a city"? You never know where a psychopath might luck.

[stevegreer]

immigrant came from country where they are blocked from viewing any sex contents . so they have no self control at all in front of these types of situation so they need time to get adapted to the new environment.

That post sounds a lot like you are saying his actions were justified because he's not allowed to watch porn in his native country. Please tell me you aren't doing that. There is NO excuse for raping a child. There is NO excuse for raping anyone else, for that matter.

[TECSHARE]

Sure the 10 years old kid with his magnum, that would have totally helped him xD

Dude don't try to promote gun freedom everywhere! It has its uses, but it's not perfect ^^

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

Problem being that you're wrong here.
It wouldn't make anyone think twice. Rape is not something thought and planned most of the time. Which means they don't THINK.

Well, castration is a good definitive solution though. Or death penalty/lifetime jail.
I don't think rape should be forgiven, ever.

Anyone else see the irony in a gun ban advocate calling for the death penalty for rapists? If only the victim had a gun to begin with, they wouldn't be raped and the rapist would still be alive and learn that it is not worth it after confronting an armed would-be victim. Of course this makes too much sense.

Better to let the rape happen and just execute people after, because after all guns are scary! I saw Scarface I know all about guns!

Anyone else is seeing the difference between saying that death or castration is a good definitive solution and advocating for legal creation of that solution?
And I don't see the link between gun freedom and death penalty, it has like NOTHING in common in fact, beside the fact that USA are fund of both.

Oh yeah it would have totally helped the 10 years old boy to have a gun with him!!! For sure it would have been really helpful!!! You clearly convinced me with such an argument

I assumed people reading would have enough common sense to understand I was not advocating the little boy should have had a gun, and stating so is little more than a straw man logical fallacy designed to distract from my actual argument. I should have known better than to expect any common sense on this forum.

In reality I was drawing attention to the irony of some one demanding "protection" of life by banning guns, and being willing to allow other rapes (such as adult women) and then executing the assailant after the fact rather than imprisoning them or god forbid just stopping the attack by being armed in the first place, most likely leading to everyone living free and unviolated.

I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy. You claim to want to protect life out of one side of your mouth while you allow the rape and execution of people with those same ideals out the other side of your mouth as a direct result of your anti-gun stance.

Well it's not the stupidest reason for rape I guess...? 

But this is a headline (and post here on bct) that reeks of sensationalism.  Doesn't matter if the rapist is an Iraqi immigrant or that it was a child.  These things, while horrible, happen all the time.  There's nothing special about this, though I definitely wouldn't say that to the parents here.  It's just that the headline wants to imply more than is there, i.e., that the child rape is due to the person being Iraqi and an immigrant.  No?

Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking.  Got it.  Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

I am not trying to excuse any of this behavior, but I am simply trying to relate my experience from direct interaction with people from the middle east that I have had in various venues. They see women as for marrying and having kids only, and boys as sex objects. Many of these perpetrators were raped themselves as children, and they see it as a right of passage. They were used as a child and therefore they feel as if they have the same right to use boys this way. BTW you probably aren't going to find many Arabs here willing to comment on this topic because it brings a lot of shame to them and their culture, especially from the international community who finds such ideas to be vile and unacceptable. I have however had Arabs admit these things to me in private discussion. Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

[Daniel91]

It's crazy.
It seems this Muslim immigrants coming from completely different world, where they are not allowed to be free, have normal relationship with women, other people, children etc.
Now, they came to the West and it seems they ar5e lost and can't control their emotions, behavior etc.
It's becoming very serious problem now and don't know how to solve it.

[Spendulus]

You mean to say that swimming pools are "bad areas of a city"? You never know where a psychopath might luck.

I think you may be referring to one of our Traditional, Standard Psychopaths.

Not these new crazed ones.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

Probably not gonna happen.  I don't get out much.  In either case I wasn't attacking what you wrote--I saw it as darkly humorous, and I'll take you at your word that it's true.  I certainly have seen how women are treated in Islam, as I have known some Muslims.  Being somewhat of a misanthrope and a self-centered bastard, I'm not too bothered as long as it doesn't encroach on my freedoms.

[Spendulus]

Sure the 10 years old kid with his magnum, that would have totally helped him xD

Dude don't try to promote gun freedom everywhere! It has its uses, but it's not perfect ^^

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

Problem being that you're wrong here.
It wouldn't make anyone think twice. Rape is not something thought and planned most of the time. Which means they don't THINK.

Well, castration is a good definitive solution though. Or death penalty/lifetime jail.
I don't think rape should be forgiven, ever.

Anyone else see the irony in a gun ban advocate calling for the death penalty for rapists? If only the victim had a gun to begin with, they wouldn't be raped and the rapist would still be alive and learn that it is not worth it after confronting an armed would-be victim. Of course this makes too much sense.

Better to let the rape happen and just execute people after, because after all guns are scary! I saw Scarface I know all about guns!

Anyone else is seeing the difference between saying that death or castration is a good definitive solution and advocating for legal creation of that solution?
And I don't see the link between gun freedom and death penalty, it has like NOTHING in common in fact, beside the fact that USA are fund of both.

Oh yeah it would have totally helped the 10 years old boy to have a gun with him!!! For sure it would have been really helpful!!! You clearly convinced me with such an argument

I assumed people reading would have enough common sense to understand I was not advocating the little boy should have had a gun, and stating so is little more than a straw man logical fallacy designed to distract from my actual argument. I should have known better than to expect any common sense on this forum.

In reality I was drawing attention to the irony of some one demanding "protection" of life by banning guns, and being willing to allow other rapes (such as adult women) and then executing the assailant after the fact rather than imprisoning them or god forbid just stopping the attack by being armed in the first place, most likely leading to everyone living free and unviolated.

I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy. You claim to want to protect life out of one side of your mouth while you allow the rape and execution of people with those same ideals out the other side of your mouth as a direct result of your anti-gun stance.

Well it's not the stupidest reason for rape I guess...?  

But this is a headline (and post here on bct) that reeks of sensationalism.  Doesn't matter if the rapist is an Iraqi immigrant or that it was a child.  These things, while horrible, happen all the time.  There's nothing special about this, though I definitely wouldn't say that to the parents here.  It's just that the headline wants to imply more than is there, i.e., that the child rape is due to the person being Iraqi and an immigrant.  No?

Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking.  Got it.  Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

I am not trying to excuse any of this behavior, but I am simply trying to relate my experience from direct interaction with people from the middle east that I have had in various venues. They see women as for marrying and having kids only, and boys as sex objects. Many of these perpetrators were raped themselves as children, and they see it as a right of passage. They were used as a child and therefore they feel as if they have the same right to use boys this way. BTW you probably aren't going to find many Arabs here willing to comment on this topic because it brings a lot of shame to them and their culture, especially from the international community who finds such ideas to be vile and unacceptable. I have however had Arabs admit these things to me in private discussion. Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

Unfortunately, the matter of "little boys and Arab culture" is true.  I don't think you mean "Arab culture," more like "middle eastern culture" perhaps.

RE bolded above, there is an actual historical case which occurred only about 20 miles from where I live.  An 11 year old and 8 year old brothers were walking to school, and for unrelated reasons were carrying four of their Dad's rifles.  They were set on by a band of six Indians.  The 8 year old proceeded to load, and the 11 year old fired.  These were single shot muskets, and at the end of this skirmish there were four dead Indians, one seriously wounded, and one that fled.  The two boys proceeded to their school house.  There is no record of their being marked as tardy.

A Calvary officer arrived some weeks later, and wrote the incident up and recorded it.  Pre Civil War era, which would mean 1845+.

Maybe we are headed back to those times?  Does not bother me.  This incident is interesting because it shows perhaps how we train children to be "children." 

[jak1]

they are generally pedophiles like to marry with children...so this is not surprising..this people can not be in Europe because they are uncivilized and never can be different. chemical castration is good choice so other people be safe

[TECSHARE]

Sure the 10 years old kid with his magnum, that would have totally helped him xD

Dude don't try to promote gun freedom everywhere! It has its uses, but it's not perfect ^^

Nobody expect that 10 years old boy carries gun with him. And none expect that his child ll be raped on swimming pool. Solution is not to accept refugees and people who don't respect civilized values and behave in that way..it were media chaos when one pool in Vienna prohibited to migrants entrance there because of sexual assult on woman in swimwear and almost headlines speak about nazi, Hitler...what would they say now

Problem being that you're wrong here.
It wouldn't make anyone think twice. Rape is not something thought and planned most of the time. Which means they don't THINK.

Well, castration is a good definitive solution though. Or death penalty/lifetime jail.
I don't think rape should be forgiven, ever.

Anyone else see the irony in a gun ban advocate calling for the death penalty for rapists? If only the victim had a gun to begin with, they wouldn't be raped and the rapist would still be alive and learn that it is not worth it after confronting an armed would-be victim. Of course this makes too much sense.

Better to let the rape happen and just execute people after, because after all guns are scary! I saw Scarface I know all about guns!

Anyone else is seeing the difference between saying that death or castration is a good definitive solution and advocating for legal creation of that solution?
And I don't see the link between gun freedom and death penalty, it has like NOTHING in common in fact, beside the fact that USA are fund of both.

Oh yeah it would have totally helped the 10 years old boy to have a gun with him!!! For sure it would have been really helpful!!! You clearly convinced me with such an argument

I assumed people reading would have enough common sense to understand I was not advocating the little boy should have had a gun, and stating so is little more than a straw man logical fallacy designed to distract from my actual argument. I should have known better than to expect any common sense on this forum.

In reality I was drawing attention to the irony of some one demanding "protection" of life by banning guns, and being willing to allow other rapes (such as adult women) and then executing the assailant after the fact rather than imprisoning them or god forbid just stopping the attack by being armed in the first place, most likely leading to everyone living free and unviolated.

I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy. You claim to want to protect life out of one side of your mouth while you allow the rape and execution of people with those same ideals out the other side of your mouth as a direct result of your anti-gun stance.

Well it's not the stupidest reason for rape I guess...?  

But this is a headline (and post here on bct) that reeks of sensationalism.  Doesn't matter if the rapist is an Iraqi immigrant or that it was a child.  These things, while horrible, happen all the time.  There's nothing special about this, though I definitely wouldn't say that to the parents here.  It's just that the headline wants to imply more than is there, i.e., that the child rape is due to the person being Iraqi and an immigrant.  No?

Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking.  Got it.  Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

I am not trying to excuse any of this behavior, but I am simply trying to relate my experience from direct interaction with people from the middle east that I have had in various venues. They see women as for marrying and having kids only, and boys as sex objects. Many of these perpetrators were raped themselves as children, and they see it as a right of passage. They were used as a child and therefore they feel as if they have the same right to use boys this way. BTW you probably aren't going to find many Arabs here willing to comment on this topic because it brings a lot of shame to them and their culture, especially from the international community who finds such ideas to be vile and unacceptable. I have however had Arabs admit these things to me in private discussion. Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

Unfortunately, the matter of "little boys and Arab culture" is true.  I don't think you mean "Arab culture," more like "middle eastern culture" perhaps.

RE bolded above, there is an actual historical case which occurred only about 20 miles from where I live.  An 11 year old and 8 year old brothers were walking to school, and for unrelated reasons were carrying four of their Dad's rifles.  They were set on by a band of six Indians.  The 8 year old proceeded to load, and the 11 year old fired.  These were single shot muskets, and at the end of this skirmish there were four dead Indians, one seriously wounded, and one that fled.  The two boys proceeded to their school house.  There is no record of their being marked as tardy.

A Calvary officer arrived some weeks later, and wrote the incident up and recorded it.  Pre Civil War era, which would mean 1845+.

Maybe we are headed back to those times?  Does not bother me.  This incident is interesting because it shows perhaps how we train children to be "children." 

Yes maybe my terminology was not correct, but it is difficult to be precise when the region has been in constant conflict for thousands of years and has so much displacement. As far as training children to be children, I agree completely. Observe the difference between parents that treat their children as developing adults as opposed to the ones who coddle their children constantly doing things for them they could do themselves, and observe the developmental differences. This coddling creates dependence that later develops into dependence on the government. Unfortunately the soviet based "educational" model currently deployed in the USA and elsewhere is not that. the soviet model also seeks to create a system of dependence on the government.  

It is quite astounding what children are capable of if given the correct developmental environment. Not that it is the correct developmental environment, but I wonder if an armed child soldier in the Congo would have been so easily raped? I guess it is largely a matter of developmental acceleration for better or worse. History (and modern reality) shows us children can be just as capable as many so called adults.

[Spendulus]

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Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking.  Got it.  Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

I am not trying to excuse any of this behavior, but I am simply trying to relate my experience from direct interaction with people from the middle east that I have had in various venues. They see women as for marrying and having kids only, and boys as sex objects. Many of these perpetrators were raped themselves as children, and they see it as a right of passage. They were used as a child and therefore they feel as if they have the same right to use boys this way. BTW you probably aren't going to find many Arabs here willing to comment on this topic because it brings a lot of shame to them and their culture, especially from the international community who finds such ideas to be vile and unacceptable. I have however had Arabs admit these things to me in private discussion. Perhaps maybe you should make an Arab friend first, then ask him?

[/quote]Unfortunately, the matter of "little boys and Arab culture" is true.  I don't think you mean "Arab culture," more like "middle eastern culture" perhaps.

RE bolded above, there is an actual historical case which occurred only about 20 miles from where I live.  An 11 year old and 8 year old brothers were walking to school, and for unrelated reasons were carrying four of their Dad's rifles.  They were set on by a band of six Indians.  The 8 year old proceeded to load, and the 11 year old fired.  These were single shot muskets, and at the end of this skirmish there were four dead Indians, one seriously wounded, and one that fled.  The two boys proceeded to their school house.  There is no record of their being marked as tardy.

A Calvary officer arrived some weeks later, and wrote the incident up and recorded it.  Pre Civil War era, which would mean 1845+.

Maybe we are headed back to those times?  Does not bother me.  This incident is interesting because it shows perhaps how we train children to be "children."  
[/quote]

Yes maybe my terminology was not correct, but it is difficult to be precise when the region has been in constant conflict for thousands of years and has so much displacement. As far as training children to be children, I agree completely. Observe the difference between parents that treat their children as developing adults as opposed to the ones who coddle their children constantly doing things for them they could do themselves, and observe the developmental differences. This coddling creates dependence that later develops into dependence on the government. Unfortunately the soviet based "educational" model currently deployed in the USA and elsewhere is not that. the soviet model also seeks to create a system of dependence on the government.  

It is quite astounding what children are capable of if given the correct developmental environment. Not that it is the correct developmental environment, but I wonder if an armed child soldier in the Congo would have been so easily raped? I guess it is largely a matter of developmental acceleration for better or worse. History (and modern reality) shows us children can be just as capable as many so called adults.
[/quote]

RE the "constant conflict for thousands of years," that's not the central issue.  Behind that is "tribal thinking," and all they are trying to do now is export their stupid shit.

One movie that comes to mind which illustrates the capability of children is  -

King of the Hill by Sodenburg

Also, La Misma Luna ("Under the Same Moon")

[Spendulus]

Well it's not the stupidest reason for rape I guess...?  

But this is a headline (and post here on bct) that reeks of sensationalism.  Doesn't matter if the rapist is an Iraqi immigrant or that it was a child.  These things, while horrible, happen all the time.  There's nothing special about this, though I definitely wouldn't say that to the parents here.  It's just that the headline wants to imply more than is there, i.e., that the child rape is due to the person being Iraqi and an immigrant.  No?

Sodomy, especially of young boys is something that is fairly common in Arab culture. It is not just sensationalism. If you do some actual research on the subject you will see what I say is true. There is certainly a pattern in the Arab world of raping young boys more so than the rest of the world in general. Part of the reason for this is they are so sexually repressed when it comes to women. They see women as being for reproduction and boys as being for fucking. This unfortunately is reality, not just sensationalism.

In other words women are for fucking and boys are for Fucking.  Got it.  Any Arabs in the house who want to tackle this one?

Now I'm confused.  So what are the goats for?

[davewill750]

This could be a lonely situation for them. There not thinking that there are no camels, donkeys or goats in Vienna.