Best strategy in Roulette ?

[iram66680]

Roulette may be the complex game I've ever played.
So mostly I'm focus 1 game for example : red/black or odd /even etc and try to martiangle it

It is literally the simplest game in the world. Pick a number. that's all it is.

But the point of the gamble is to bet on the one number that it land on with the least amount of times when placing that bet or you will eventually lose all your money choosing the same number all the time.
If you are confident in a color, place chips on each number that is on that color. You will get 35x your bet amount 

[Phildo]

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interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

No time now, but I bet this has the same expected value as every other strategy. Feel free to figure it out, I'll do it when I get home tonight if everyone is lazy. The only good strategy in roulette is to be the house.

OK, let's break this down.

You are risking 9 chips.

3/37 times it will land on 0,2, or 3. You will win 22 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere. So 3/37 times you will win 15 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 4 or 7. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 12 or 15. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 18 or 21. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 19 or 22. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

4/37 times it will land on 25, 26, 28, or 29. You will win 16 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere, so 4/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 32 or 35. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

That leaves 20/37 times that you will lose all of your bets and lose 9 chips.

EV=(3/37)(15)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(4/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(20/37)(-9)

EV=-.2432432432432432

So you expect to lose .2432 chips every spin.

If you put 9 chips on any 1 number:

1/37 times you will be right and win 315 chips

36/37 times you will be wrong and lose 9 chips.

EV= (1/37)(315)+(36/37)(-9)

EV= -0.2432432432432432

HOLY SHIT, exactly the same thing, like every other ridiculous strategy you will come up with (unless you make a  bet on 0,00,1,2,3 on an American table, then it will be worse.

[Phildo]

Roulette may be the complex game I've ever played.
So mostly I'm focus 1 game for example : red/black or odd /even etc and try to martiangle it

It is literally the simplest game in the world. Pick a number. that's all it is.

But the point of the gamble is to bet on the one number that it land on with the least amount of times when placing that bet or you will eventually lose all your money choosing the same number all the time.
If you are confident in a color, place chips on each number that is on that color. You will get 35x your bet amount 

Every strategy works the same way. You won't get 35x your bet that way, because when you win you will lose 17 chips, so you will only win 18 chips. The same exact thing as if you put 18 chips on the color square.

[Arcteryx]

someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

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interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

No time now, but I bet this has the same expected value as every other strategy. Feel free to figure it out, I'll do it when I get home tonight if everyone is lazy. The only good strategy in roulette is to be the house.

OK, let's break this down.

You are risking 9 chips.

3/37 times it will land on 0,2, or 3. You will win 22 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere. So 3/37 times you will win 15 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 4 or 7. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 12 or 15. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 18 or 21. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 19 or 22. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

4/37 times it will land on 25, 26, 28, or 29. You will win 16 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere, so 4/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 32 or 35. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

That leaves 20/37 times that you will lose all of your bets and lose 9 chips.

EV=(3/37)(15)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(4/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(20/37)(-9)

EV=-.2432432432432432

So you expect to lose .2432 chips every spin.

If you put 9 chips on any 1 number:

1/37 times you will be right and win 315 chips

36/37 times you will be wrong and lose 9 chips.

EV= (1/37)(315)+(36/37)(-9)

EV= -0.2432432432432432

HOLY SHIT, exactly the same thing, like every other ridiculous strategy you will come up with (unless you make a  bet on 0,00,1,2,3 on an American table, then it will be worse.

I was reading the exactly same thread last week and was going to try it out.
But if you calculated it as not working even 80% of strategy then forget it. It was just by luck that he got that amount back from just 0.5btc.

[Phildo]

someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

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interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

No time now, but I bet this has the same expected value as every other strategy. Feel free to figure it out, I'll do it when I get home tonight if everyone is lazy. The only good strategy in roulette is to be the house.

OK, let's break this down.

You are risking 9 chips.

3/37 times it will land on 0,2, or 3. You will win 22 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere. So 3/37 times you will win 15 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 4 or 7. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 12 or 15. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 18 or 21. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 19 or 22. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

4/37 times it will land on 25, 26, 28, or 29. You will win 16 chips, but lose 7 chips you bet elsewhere, so 4/37 times you will win 9 chips.

2/37 times it will land on 32 or 35. You will win 17 chips, but lose 8 chips you bet elsewhere, so 2/37 times you will win 9 chips.

That leaves 20/37 times that you will lose all of your bets and lose 9 chips.

EV=(3/37)(15)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(4/37)(9)+(2/37)(9)+(20/37)(-9)

EV=-.2432432432432432

So you expect to lose .2432 chips every spin.

If you put 9 chips on any 1 number:

1/37 times you will be right and win 315 chips

36/37 times you will be wrong and lose 9 chips.

EV= (1/37)(315)+(36/37)(-9)

EV= -0.2432432432432432

HOLY SHIT, exactly the same thing, like every other ridiculous strategy you will come up with (unless you make a  bet on 0,00,1,2,3 on an American table, then it will be worse.

I was reading the exactly same thread last week and was going to try it out.
But if you calculated it as not working even 80% of strategy then forget it. It was just by luck that he got that amount back from just 0.5btc.

I (and every statistics textbook in the world) are not making shit up. Roulette is pure luck. Part of the charm of it is that every "method" or "strategy" works exactly the same way because every bet has the same EV. If you are going to play roulette, play it as a gamble and hope for the best. If you want big risk/big reward, pick a number or 2. If you want a better chance of winning, pick more numbers, but don't think that you have a system that works, because they all work exactly the same way.

[Indrawan77]

Because i am a slow gambler, i like my bet to be 50% so i usually put my bet either in red or black or odd or even, the one that i recommended is 1:3 payment like bet in 1-12
I never get lucky when i bet in single number

[aardvark15]

I don't think there is any way to win at roulette or dice games.  Your best chance is to play one time and you have close to a 50% chance of winning.  The more you play the percentage keeps dropping because the house gets their share (zeros).  You will always lose you money over the long term.

[nostal02]

Well my strategy on roulette is i always pick red,even and the number beside it most of the time won by this strategy of mine but when im not lucky i lose a lot.

[Arcteryx]

Because i am a slow gambler, i like my bet to be 50% so i usually put my bet either in red or black or odd or even, the one that i recommended is 1:3 payment like bet in 1-12
I never get lucky when i bet in single number

That is the same way that I that place my bets. Either in the 1st 12 or the last 12 and hope for those numbers to roll. I don't know what the percentage is for this method to produce a win but it's more than 50%, that is for sure because you have 24 of the 36 numbers minus the 0 going your way to win.

[airezx20]

someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

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interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

Good strategy maybe i can try this strategy maybe i can make a profit with this method.. honestly you can see more strategy in google tipss and tricks that you can make lots of profit.. but its always depends in our luck if we can make a profit even you dont need to do this method..

[Phildo]

someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

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interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

Good strategy maybe i can try this strategy maybe i can make a profit with this method.. honestly you can see more strategy in google tipss and tricks that you can make lots of profit.. but its always depends in our luck if we can make a profit even you dont need to do this method..

This strategy has the same expected outcome as putting 9 chips on 1 number, or putting 9 chips anywhere else on the table.

Please don't be fooled by idiots. Do the math (or read someone else doing the math) and figure it out yourself.

The only "method" to get profit is to be lucky.

[leex1528]

Aren't there just betting strategies?  Couldn't you apply these to any other game.  Its not like you can rig the bet in your favor so I don't really consider it a strategy for roulette.

[EdenHazard]

someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

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interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

Good strategy maybe i can try this strategy maybe i can make a profit with this method.. honestly you can see more strategy in google tipss and tricks that you can make lots of profit.. but its always depends in our luck if we can make a profit even you dont need to do this method..

This strategy has the same expected outcome as putting 9 chips on 1 number, or putting 9 chips anywhere else on the table.

Please don't be fooled by idiots. Do the math (or read someone else doing the math) and figure it out yourself.

The only "method" to get profit is to be lucky.

feel free to call the methods are work or not , the most important are you get profit or not?

but after i tried this method looks like the method and my luck syncronized working perfectly so far , here is the result of my experiment

and don't forget this method will never run smoothly as you want, use it for fun!

[Phildo]

someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

and this is preview how we use this "Voisins du Zero" method



interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

Good strategy maybe i can try this strategy maybe i can make a profit with this method.. honestly you can see more strategy in google tipss and tricks that you can make lots of profit.. but its always depends in our luck if we can make a profit even you dont need to do this method..

This strategy has the same expected outcome as putting 9 chips on 1 number, or putting 9 chips anywhere else on the table.

Please don't be fooled by idiots. Do the math (or read someone else doing the math) and figure it out yourself.

The only "method" to get profit is to be lucky.

feel free to call the methods are work or not , the most important are you get profit or not?

but after i tried this method looks like the method and my luck syncronized working perfectly so far , here is the result of my experiment

and don't forget this method will never run smoothly as you want, use it for fun!

You will profit with this method if you get lucky and hit the right numbers, at exactly the same rate as every other strategy in the world.

[BruceLee007]

There are many types of Roulette strategy available, and each one has its differences from the others, or lucky numbers...

well if you trust in lucky numbers and you have them, then of course you should try sometimes to bet on them, just don't take others luckynumbers as they probably won't be lucky for you

and other strategy is to bet on color, it is very easy and 50/50 usually

[xxxDD]

This is my strategy,  all in black, keep finger crossed, and spin.....

In case you win.. STOP and WITHDRAW.
In case you lose.. STOP and PLAY again next time.

imo better than any strategy

[Phildo]

This is my strategy,  all in black, keep finger crossed, and spin.....

In case you win.. STOP and WITHDRAW.
In case you lose.. STOP and PLAY again next time.

imo better than any strategy

This strategy is mathematically as sound as any other strategy, good luck friend.

[Arcteryx]

I do notice that if you are a winning streak with your picks, it only lasts for a little while like 3 or 4 times in a row. Then you start losing cause nothing last forever then that is the time the house takes back there money, and then some! 

[leex1528]

I don't understand why people call it a strategy in a particular game.  That isn't the case, a strategy involves making a plan so that you alter the performance of something.  In other words, you would try to alter where the ball would actually land.  You are making a betting strategy, not a roulette strategy.  Same thing in dice, it isn't a dice strategy, it is a betting strategy.

[Phildo]

someone mentioning "Voisins du Zero" methods in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1392235.msg14140959#msg14140959

and this is preview how we use this "Voisins du Zero" method



interesting , but not tried yet because this method required a large bankroll i think. play it for 5 or 10 rounds maybe will not work , also sometimes need to doubled bet. the guy succeed earn 3.8 btc.

Good strategy maybe i can try this strategy maybe i can make a profit with this method.. honestly you can see more strategy in google tipss and tricks that you can make lots of profit.. but its always depends in our luck if we can make a profit even you dont need to do this method..

This strategy has the same expected outcome as putting 9 chips on 1 number, or putting 9 chips anywhere else on the table.

Please don't be fooled by idiots. Do the math (or read someone else doing the math) and figure it out yourself.

The only "method" to get profit is to be lucky.

feel free to call the methods are work or not , the most important are you get profit or not?

but after i tried this method looks like the method and my luck syncronized working perfectly so far , here is the result of my experiment

and don't forget this method will never run smoothly as you want, use it for fun!

Not going to do all the math, but just want to say that your idea of betting the smallest amount on the bets with the best chance of winning (the groups of 12) is one of the stupider ideas I've seen on here, but overall this "strategy" will have the same expected outcome as any other method you can come up with of distributing those 28 chips around the board.