New Mining Game to Earn BTC

[s@toshiClaims]

Which paid ads company do you prefer using on your site

for btc earnings i prefer mellow ads / bitmedia / a-ads those pay you daily what is good to payout your members. and google is the main source off income but google only pays 1 time a month

[kanazawa]

A game need some money to maintain itself, and more than that, it must be profitable bcause it's a hard work... i.e How could you maintain a server running without charge some cash? that's why almost every "game" in our bitcoin universe is a scam or it tends to be one... I also think that this is why  only casino/dice games run with success, because the house earn a lot with the programming logic (maths behind it)... and other type of games, like (don't know, candycrush, angry birds, warcraft, worms, counter strike, street fight, etc) don't have this "kinda" math involved... you only play, and pay some cash for license, etc... I think that, any game beyond this "kinda" (first example) s very hard to maintain because the gameplay must be awesome and people have to forget about profits, etc... fk, that's why it''s so f***** hard to have a "earn btc" game, it will fall in the suckiest quality gameplay ever... it's a long story telling.. but it's a cool "conversation".

[irynet]

A game need some money to maintain itself, and more than that, it must be profitable bcause it's a hard work... i.e How could you maintain a server running without charge some cash? that's why almost every "game" in our bitcoin universe is a scam or it tends to be one... I also think that this is why  only casino/dice games run with success, because the house earn a lot with the programming logic (maths behind it)... and other type of games, like (don't know, candycrush, angry birds, warcraft, worms, counter strike, street fight, etc) don't have this "kinda" math involved... you only play, and pay some cash for license, etc... I think that, any game beyond this "kinda" (first example) s very hard to maintain because the gameplay must be awesome and people have to forget about profits, etc... fk, that's why it''s so f***** hard to have a "earn btc" game, it will fall in the suckiest quality gameplay ever... it's a long story telling.. but it's a cool "conversation".

Like you say "How could you maintain a server running without charge some cash?". My original thoughts here, was to rely on revenue alone for income to pay out to the Users/Game players.

But as was mentioned previously there may be room for some kind "Dice Game/Gamble" (provably fair of course) to reduce the outgoings.
Somewhere down the line I would like to increase the gameplay as well so users stay longer on the site (This in turn increase ad revenue)

But any thoughts about improving income would be grateful?

[irynet]

Which paid ads company do you prefer using on your site

for btc earnings i prefer mellow ads / bitmedia / a-ads those pay you daily what is good to payout your members. and google is the main source off income but google only pays 1 time a month

Let me know if you have a referal link for any of your BTC advert sites as I sign up to them and use them in the finished site

When you display ads using "mellow ads / bitmedia / a-ads" do you get the same amount wherever you put the ad, or do the ads at the top of the page pay better (per thousand)

[Dekker3D]

After a lot of people getting scammed lately by such sites like ore-mine.org, it could be harder to gain some trust and investors. I do hope you succeed if your intentions are true.

[irynet]

After a lot of people getting scammed lately by such sites like ore-mine.org, it could be harder to gain some trust and investors. I do hope you succeed if your intentions are true.

thanks Dekker, I'm gonna keep going with the project until it completes hopefully (time allowing) . if no one invests or plays then only time lost.

I'm gonna steak enough btc to cover the first 100 or so players so hopefully that will encourage more people to come

[s@toshiClaims]

After a lot of people getting scammed lately by such sites like ore-mine.org, it could be harder to gain some trust and investors. I do hope you succeed if your intentions are true.

thanks Dekker, I'm gonna keep going with the project until it completes hopefully (time allowing) . if no one invests or plays then only time lost.

I'm gonna steak enough btc to cover the first 100 or so players so hopefully that will encourage more people to come

Buy a good domain when you start. with good name and good alexa ranking im building one here with a faucet www.investingbit.co.in  (later it can be changed when alexa is in a good position) cause your earnings will be 50% better

[irynet]

After a lot of people getting scammed lately by such sites like ore-mine.org, it could be harder to gain some trust and investors. I do hope you succeed if your intentions are true.

thanks Dekker, I'm gonna keep going with the project until it completes hopefully (time allowing) . if no one invests or plays then only time lost.

I'm gonna steak enough btc to cover the first 100 or so players so hopefully that will encourage more people to come

Buy a good domain when you start. with good name and good alexa ranking im building one here with a faucet www.investingbit.co.in  (later it can be changed when alexa is in a good position) cause your earnings will be 50% better

Not exactly sure what your saying here. I know what Alexa is and I know what a good domain is .com .org .co.UK .fr ect...... By I'm not sure what you mean about Alexa in a good position or domain name being changed.

I've been doing CSS stuff all week.... What a pain in the ass.....!

[irynet]

If anyone has been reading this, which they probably havent.

I have not given up, just been re writing 5 pages into 1, and converting all forms and POST variables into SESSION Variables.

Its a steep learning curve

[Everybitbit]

If anyone has been reading this, which they probably havent.

I have not given up, just been re writing 5 pages into 1, and converting all forms and POST variables into SESSION Variables.

Its a steep learning curve

i hope your game will last very long enough.. not like bitfactory, well ore-mine is stay longer too but collapse in the end,
so i think you need more time to build trust on investor..
i lost money on both game before, but i definitely wont invest any mining game or building game again., unless the game are trusted and stay long time. so good luck with it

[haileysantos95]

Is this profitable?..

[benmartin613]

Is this a scam or profitable?.

[opmac]

Hello

How have things been going? I have been offline for two weeks now almost.

[BTCforJoe]

I am so glad to see that this topic has been repurposed, and that you, irynet, are still giving this thought.

One thing that will lead to (greed and certain) collapse of your site is when players overinvest. Let's say that you offer a decent (not amazing, but decent) ROI that is very realistic and doesn't reek of "Ponzi". Now let's say that 100 users all of a sudden invest in that plan. Would you be able to pay back the 100 people their ROI on a daily basis, given the overnight spike in upgrades? How about on a weekly basis? What about a monthly basis? Chances are, that you won't be able to. Sites that claim that they can pay back these high-investing members from the advertising revenue simply don't understand how ad revenue works. Just because I invest 1BTC to upgrade my plan their site doesn't make the ads I view worth anywhere near that... Or any different from a free user on their site... So how in God's name are they going to pay me back my investment based on "ad revenue" as they claim?

Overall, I would love to see an exclusive faucet/generator that only allows a certain amount of users. You can keep the buzz alive by offering chatboxes and maybe some basic forums or a shoutbox for non-members to see how the members are doing... And it's a great way to start an email marketing campaign. You can take email addresses of people that want to join but just don't have the slots available for.

Manage expectations from the very beginning, and explain that you truly will be sharing your ad revenue with the members of your site. A breakdown can be done something like this (don't use these, I'm just guesstimating):

Phase 0 (the beta, development and programming phase)
100 Free Accounts
5 Level 1 Upgraded Accounts
3 Level 2 Upgraded Accounts
1 Level 3 Upgraded Accounts

Phase 1 (while you balance out your ad revenue vs cost of operating the site; maybe 30-60 days)
5,000 Free Accounts
25 Level 1 Upgraded Accounts
10 Level 2 Upgraded Accounts
5 Level 3 Upgraded Accounts

Phase 2 (After you have a good average earning per visit/user of your site)
10,000 Free Accounts
35 Level 1 accounts
15 Level 2 accounts
10 Level 3 accounts

and so on.

You could also do a transparent advertising report off of your AdSense and whatever other network you use, that shows registered members exactly how much you are earning from ad revenue. And then you do somewhat of a split like this:

Ad Revenue Split
25% to admin
30% to free users
15% to Level 1
15% to Level 2
15% to Level 3

You should also have a faucet available for any member to use (but mandatory for free members to earn satoshi and unlock weekly ad splits), or credits/tokens worth satoshi, and the value of that credit/token fluctuates based on how much advertising revenue you are producing. At the end of every week, or on every Sunday (for example), you can convert the credits/tokens to a BTC value to the users' accounts. Introduce a stipulation as a free member that if a claim is not made within 72 hours, your account and its balance will be forfeited in order to make room for new signups. Once your account/BTC address has forfeited itself, you cannot join the site again until your position in the waitlist has been rotated through again, after allowing the next person in the waiting list to join the site in their place.

Free members MUST claim from the faucet every 72 hours in order to remain a member. This also takes care of the visits on site, and metrics needed to operate a profit from ad revenue. With 5,000 or 10,000 visitors averaging 5-10 hits per visit within every 72 hour window, that's some good hits, that will end up paying back the investments made by paid members.

The reason you'll only have limited paid members per phase is so that you won't become inundated with over-investments, will undoubtedly collapse the ecosystem of your site.

You can use an email marketing program to send members and non-members updates about availability about positions, and as a way to introduce them to new trustworthy faucets/hyip's/generators that you trust and want to refer using your ref link. You can also earn a shitload of money from referrals to other sites... For example, I had 650 referrals from Field of Bitcoins that generated me 0.1BTC per week until their payouts went to shit. Bonus Bitcoin paid me an average of 500k satoshi/day until the Googlegate happened. Referral commissions can be added to your ad revenue, and split amongst the users of your site.

I think this will create an exclusive club that will lead to amazing user retention and time-on-site, as well as create a demand for your brand, as it has limited availability. Of course, the automation on the site has to be amazing, as you don't want to be manually checking 5,000 accounts to see who's been inactive in the past 72 hours... But I think that this is a great concept.

Badge/Recognition/Awards System
Every Level 3 user will get a badge or some form of recognition wherever their name is displayed throughout your site.
Everly Level 2 user will also get a badge.
As will every Level 1 user.
Free users can have the option to earn specific badges, like most claims made within the last 24 hours. Or the last 72 hours. Or the top claimer of the week. Top claimer of the month, etc.

This will help in the chatbox or shoutbox, or any social aspect you introduce to the site. Remember, it's an exclusive site for members, so you should offer them a way to talk to each other. Maybe also have a section/chatbox separate for upgraded members vs. free members.

Introduce a way to advertise on the site internally for members to promote whatever they want. Take 1,000 satoshi from their account for a 2hr ad. 5,000 satoshi for a 12hr ad. 7,500 satoshi for a 24hr ad. And then make a couple featured user ad placements that ONLY upgraded members can utilize.

If you do utilize this concept, and decide develop and program this, I would love to partner with you on this. My expertise is graphic design, marketing, SEO and advertising, and together, we could probably put together a business plan that could take off and start a new revolution in the way that bitcoin investment sites operate...

PM me if you wanna put our heads together and make something happen!

[irynet]

If anyone has been reading this, which they probably havent.

I have not given up, just been re writing 5 pages into 1, and converting all forms and POST variables into SESSION Variables.

Its a steep learning curve

i hope your game will last very long enough.. not like bitfactory, well ore-mine is stay longer too but collapse in the end,
so i think you need more time to build trust on investor..
i lost money on both game before, but i definitely wont invest any mining game or building game again., unless the game are trusted and stay long time. so good luck with it

Hi everybitbit, I too lost money on those sites. And it really p1ssed me off. So I know exaxtly what you mean.

I'm not going to offer double back in 24 hours or anything like that. Slow and steady and hopefully I will make enough on advertising to keep going for a long time

[irynet]

Is this a scam or profitable?.

I really hope it will be profitable. I've got 3 bitcoins saved to cover the pay back of the first investees/players. So if it does collapse, it will be my fault and I will be the only person who loses money.

Hope this answers your question my friend

[irynet]

Hello

How have things been going? I have been offline for two weeks now almost.

Slow progress I'm afraid, I was worried about people changing values in some of the post forms and cheating the game. So I've been busy changing the backend.

I'm no expert so all this is learning to me

[nielaminda]

Is this a scam or profitable?.

I really hope it will be profitable. I've got 3 bitcoins saved to cover the pay back of the first investees/players. So if it does collapse, it will be my fault and I will be the only person who loses money.

Hope this answers your question my friend

I hope you profit from this...

[irynet]

Is this a scam or profitable?.

I really hope it will be profitable. I've got 3 bitcoins saved to cover the pay back of the first investees/players. So if it does collapse, it will be my fault and I will be the only person who loses money.

Hope this answers your question my friend

I hope you profit from this...

I do hope so my friend. The game/domain/google AdSense account will all be fully traceable to me. So I hope that will encourage people and give them confidence in the site.

I certainly don't want 10000 people showing up on my doorstep demanding money back

[irynet]

I am so glad to see that this topic has been repurposed, and that you, irynet, are still giving this thought.

One thing that will lead to (greed and certain) collapse of your site is when players overinvest. Let's say that you offer a decent (not amazing, but decent) ROI that is very realistic and doesn't reek of "Ponzi". Now let's say that 100 users all of a sudden invest in that plan. Would you be able to pay back the 100 people their ROI on a daily basis, given the overnight spike in upgrades? How about on a weekly basis? What about a monthly basis? Chances are, that you won't be able to. Sites that claim that they can pay back these high-investing members from the advertising revenue simply don't understand how ad revenue works. Just because I invest 1BTC to upgrade my plan their site doesn't make the ads I view worth anywhere near that... Or any different from a free user on their site... So how in God's name are they going to pay me back my investment based on "ad revenue" as they claim?

Overall, I would love to see an exclusive faucet/generator that only allows a certain amount of users. You can keep the buzz alive by offering chatboxes and maybe some basic forums or a shoutbox for non-members to see how the members are doing... And it's a great way to start an email marketing campaign. You can take email addresses of people that want to join but just don't have the slots available for.

Manage expectations from the very beginning, and explain that you truly will be sharing your ad revenue with the members of your site. A breakdown can be done something like this (don't use these, I'm just guesstimating):

Phase 0 (the beta, development and programming phase)
100 Free Accounts
5 Level 1 Upgraded Accounts
3 Level 2 Upgraded Accounts
1 Level 3 Upgraded Accounts

Phase 1 (while you balance out your ad revenue vs cost of operating the site; maybe 30-60 days)
5,000 Free Accounts
25 Level 1 Upgraded Accounts
10 Level 2 Upgraded Accounts
5 Level 3 Upgraded Accounts

Phase 2 (After you have a good average earning per visit/user of your site)
10,000 Free Accounts
35 Level 1 accounts
15 Level 2 accounts
10 Level 3 accounts

and so on.

You could also do a transparent advertising report off of your AdSense and whatever other network you use, that shows registered members exactly how much you are earning from ad revenue. And then you do somewhat of a split like this:

Ad Revenue Split
25% to admin
30% to free users
15% to Level 1
15% to Level 2
15% to Level 3

You should also have a faucet available for any member to use (but mandatory for free members to earn satoshi and unlock weekly ad splits), or credits/tokens worth satoshi, and the value of that credit/token fluctuates based on how much advertising revenue you are producing. At the end of every week, or on every Sunday (for example), you can convert the credits/tokens to a BTC value to the users' accounts. Introduce a stipulation as a free member that if a claim is not made within 72 hours, your account and its balance will be forfeited in order to make room for new signups. Once your account/BTC address has forfeited itself, you cannot join the site again until your position in the waitlist has been rotated through again, after allowing the next person in the waiting list to join the site in their place.

Free members MUST claim from the faucet every 72 hours in order to remain a member. This also takes care of the visits on site, and metrics needed to operate a profit from ad revenue. With 5,000 or 10,000 visitors averaging 5-10 hits per visit within every 72 hour window, that's some good hits, that will end up paying back the investments made by paid members.

The reason you'll only have limited paid members per phase is so that you won't become inundated with over-investments, will undoubtedly collapse the ecosystem of your site.

You can use an email marketing program to send members and non-members updates about availability about positions, and as a way to introduce them to new trustworthy faucets/hyip's/generators that you trust and want to refer using your ref link. You can also earn a shitload of money from referrals to other sites... For example, I had 650 referrals from Field of Bitcoins that generated me 0.1BTC per week until their payouts went to shit. Bonus Bitcoin paid me an average of 500k satoshi/day until the Googlegate happened. Referral commissions can be added to your ad revenue, and split amongst the users of your site.

I think this will create an exclusive club that will lead to amazing user retention and time-on-site, as well as create a demand for your brand, as it has limited availability. Of course, the automation on the site has to be amazing, as you don't want to be manually checking 5,000 accounts to see who's been inactive in the past 72 hours... But I think that this is a great concept.

Badge/Recognition/Awards System
Every Level 3 user will get a badge or some form of recognition wherever their name is displayed throughout your site.
Everly Level 2 user will also get a badge.
As will every Level 1 user.
Free users can have the option to earn specific badges, like most claims made within the last 24 hours. Or the last 72 hours. Or the top claimer of the week. Top claimer of the month, etc.

This will help in the chatbox or shoutbox, or any social aspect you introduce to the site. Remember, it's an exclusive site for members, so you should offer them a way to talk to each other. Maybe also have a section/chatbox separate for upgraded members vs. free members.

Introduce a way to advertise on the site internally for members to promote whatever they want. Take 1,000 satoshi from their account for a 2hr ad. 5,000 satoshi for a 12hr ad. 7,500 satoshi for a 24hr ad. And then make a couple featured user ad placements that ONLY upgraded members can utilize.

If you do utilize this concept, and decide develop and program this, I would love to partner with you on this. My expertise is graphic design, marketing, SEO and advertising, and together, we could probably put together a business plan that could take off and start a new revolution in the way that bitcoin investment sites operate...

PM me if you wanna put our heads together and make something happen!

Wow thanks for your post. I will reply pm inmore detail once I get my daughter of to nursery.

This is exactly why I started thus thread to get constructive advice from this community

Speak soon