Bitcoin Forum
May 07, 2024, 12:11:21 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Satoshi Dice and the future.  (Read 1476 times)
Bowjob (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 294
Merit: 250



View Profile
January 10, 2013, 06:21:58 PM
 #1

 Assuming Bitcoins indeed appreciate in price, let's say $50/BTC, and more and more people get into Bitcoins, is it logical to think that S.dice shares will drop in price?

According to the prospectus, Satoshi Dice is expected to profit 36,386 BTC per year. So great. In 577 years, S. dice will get all the Bitcoins in the world. But we know that's not true, because as price of BTC goes up, people may want to adjust their bets to match the fiat price accordingly casuing the bet volume to go down, thus decreasing dividends and lowering the IPO.

***Disclaimer*** I own 31,800 shares of S.dice, I can't stop thinking about this. I wonder what other people think.

It seemed like a good idea at the time.
1715040681
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715040681

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715040681
Reply with quote  #2

1715040681
Report to moderator
1715040681
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715040681

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715040681
Reply with quote  #2

1715040681
Report to moderator
1715040681
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715040681

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715040681
Reply with quote  #2

1715040681
Report to moderator
You get merit points when someone likes your post enough to give you some. And for every 2 merit points you receive, you can send 1 merit point to someone else!
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1715040681
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1715040681

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1715040681
Reply with quote  #2

1715040681
Report to moderator
01BTC10
VIP
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 756
Merit: 503



View Profile
January 10, 2013, 07:20:36 PM
 #2

How would they get all bitcoins in the world if I don't even play?

Edit: I see your point but I think gamblers will lower their bets if bitcoins get more scarce and valuable. Then dividend and share price will find equilibrium between their lower price and higher bitcoins value.

Hope my english isn't too much broken  Lips sealed
giantdragon
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1582
Merit: 1002



View Profile
January 10, 2013, 07:26:19 PM
 #3

but the increase in volume (much more players) will make up for it and then some.
Huh, there are no warranties that S.Dice will keep monopoly on the Bitcoin gambling market for the long period, competitors don't sleep Wink
evoorhees
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 1021


Democracy is the original 51% attack


View Profile
January 11, 2013, 12:03:45 AM
 #4

Of course it would be silly to expect the bitcoin qty bet on SD to be the same when coins are worth $1,000.

The $$ value of the betting should remain fairly constant, and if more people play then that amount will raise.

There is also the "wealth effect" so that if bitcoin doubles people will feel richer and feel okay with spending or gambling more, so nominally the btc amount bet at SD may still increase if the btc price increases, but really it all depends on the aggregate behavior of thousands of people. Very hard to predict.
🏰 TradeFortress 🏰
Bitcoin Veteran
VIP
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1316
Merit: 1043

👻


View Profile
January 11, 2013, 12:09:17 AM
 #5

If bitcoins goes to $1000/BTC, then why are you caring about satoshiDICE turning less profits when BTC is worth $1000 each?  Huh
Bowjob (OP)
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 294
Merit: 250



View Profile
January 11, 2013, 09:35:52 AM
 #6

If bitcoins goes to $1000/BTC, then why are you caring about satoshiDICE turning less profits when BTC is worth $1000 each?  Huh

Okay, lets's assume that $1000/BTC in 5 years.

Shares are 0.00475 BTC today($0.06) at $14.00/BTC and that amounts to $4.75 per share in the future, assuming $1000/BTC

Now, think what will happen to the amount of BTC that will be rolling in Satoshi Dice's bank roll assuming $1000/BTC.. would it still be 33k BTC at today's valuation? Probably not. My concern is, I buy S. Dice shares now, but in the future the price of the IPO might go down (BTC value) because people may bet the same or even higher value dollar wise, but not BTC wise. The dividends then will be greatly reduced BTC wise causing a lower IPO price. I'm afraid when BTC takes off, it might leave S.Dice behind. It all depends if S. Dice can keep up with BTC's bullish nature.




It seemed like a good idea at the time.
🏰 TradeFortress 🏰
Bitcoin Veteran
VIP
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1316
Merit: 1043

👻


View Profile
January 11, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
 #7

If bitcoins goes to $1000/BTC, then why are you caring about satoshiDICE turning less profits when BTC is worth $1000 each?  Huh

Okay, lets's assume that $1000/BTC in 5 years.

Shares are 0.00475 BTC today($0.06) at $14.00/BTC and that amounts to $4.75 per share in the future, assuming $1000/BTC

Now, think what will happen to the amount of BTC that will be rolling in Satoshi Dice's bank roll assuming $1000/BTC.. would it still be 33k BTC at today's valuation? Probably not. My concern is, I buy S. Dice shares now, but in the future the price of the IPO might go down (BTC value) because people may bet the same or even higher value dollar wise, but not BTC wise. The dividends then will be greatly reduced BTC wise causing a lower IPO price. I'm afraid when BTC takes off, it might leave S.Dice behind. It all depends if S. Dice can keep up with BTC's bullish nature.




It's expected that the BTC wise returns from S.DICE will slightly decrease, but if BTC really takes off the new volume should make up for it. That's my personal opinion.

If BTC drops in value, then I can see the returns in S.DICE increasing, but if people start leaving BTC then holding shares won't help ya.
MPOE-PR
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 756
Merit: 522



View Profile
January 12, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
 #8

If bitcoins goes to $1000/BTC, then why are you caring about satoshiDICE turning less profits when BTC is worth $1000 each?  Huh

Okay, lets's assume that $1000/BTC in 5 years.

Shares are 0.00475 BTC today($0.06) at $14.00/BTC and that amounts to $4.75 per share in the future, assuming $1000/BTC

Now, think what will happen to the amount of BTC that will be rolling in Satoshi Dice's bank roll assuming $1000/BTC.. would it still be 33k BTC at today's valuation? Probably not. My concern is, I buy S. Dice shares now, but in the future the price of the IPO might go down (BTC value) because people may bet the same or even higher value dollar wise, but not BTC wise. The dividends then will be greatly reduced BTC wise causing a lower IPO price. I'm afraid when BTC takes off, it might leave S.Dice behind. It all depends if S. Dice can keep up with BTC's bullish nature.

Of any business you can invest in, there's precious few as likely to keep up with BTC.

My Credentials  | THE BTC Stock Exchange | I have my very own anthology! | Use bitcointa.lk, it's like this one but better.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!