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There are hundreds of gambling websites in bitcoin community , if a new one comes out , what should that new website do to stand out and gain traction?
very important things now for new gambling sites is different games, because people like something different, something unique, so new interesting games attracts lots of gamblers, also good reviews and design is very, very important for gamblers too, if they find a nice looking site they will probably play there I do not think it should be different, but the reasons of convenience and fair play. people will continue to play and be interested, if they are really comfortable playing at that site, as it has good features. but if you are different from others and make a very unique game that was nice also to be an attraction.
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People gamble to make a lot of money, so to increase users game should be unique, simple and high paying. People will see nothing else, only bet if they get good odds.
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there are still only a few casinos which offer poker tournaments, i think there is still a space for casinos like this, especially when members can play on mobile devices, so my opinion is to make a bitcoin poker app for mobile platform, there is no way to not succeed ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) What kind of poker tournaments? AFAIK there are some poker sites offers tournament such as betcoin.ag, swcpoker, nitrogensport and the newest one fortunejack. And I think it is very hard to build up a poker site, there were some poker sites that came up last year and most of them failed to survive and closed their site just few days/weeks after launch.
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April 08, 2016, 06:26:30 PM |
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to make your site stand out you need first a good promotion to your site and make people test your servises for free to get more users and try to make a good referal system it can help too and make nice offre with that you will attract more users to your site. design can do something but design with out anythink that can give the user somethink to come for is nothing.
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I'm the author of the most secure multi-player poker engine ever made(captcha on "create" actions, end to end encryption, hardware priv-keys, TOR push server, built in mixer, proprietary protocol and server etc..). There is no money in it. Betcoin.ag at it's peak(before hacks) was barely covering overhead and it's the most marketed and popular bitcoin poker campaign to date.
I mentioned in another thread people won't even buy ready-made poker solutions for a grand..
This is what's going to happen: You're going to get 10-30 regular users at best betting pennies an hour(which you rake <=1% of each of the ~13 rounds of) and get a lot of offers to buy the full-source for a couple hundred bucks mostly from middle-eastern business types. That's -----IF----- someone doesn't make a sloppy solution and market better than you. In reality people don't care about quality or even security they care about stats and features; who pays the most the fastest. Most of the BTC community doesn't even touch gambling.
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I have faith that one day this forum will get threads where people won't just repeat their previous posts or what others have already stated in the same thread. Also that people will stop acting like BTC is toy-money and start holding vendors accountable. Naive? Maybe.
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I'm the author of the most secure multi-player poker engine ever made(captcha on "create" actions, end to end encryption, hardware priv-keys, TOR push server, built in mixer, proprietary protocol and server etc..). There is no money in it. Betcoin.ag at it's peak(before hacks) was barely covering overhead and it's the most marketed and popular bitcoin poker campaign to date.
I mentioned in another thread people won't even buy ready-made poker solutions for a grand..
This is what's going to happen: You're going to get 10-30 regular users at best betting pennies an hour(which you rake <=1% of each of the ~13 rounds of) and get a lot of offers to buy the full-source for a couple hundred bucks mostly from middle-eastern business types. That's -----IF----- someone doesn't make a sloppy solution and market better than you. In reality people don't care about quality or even security they care about stats and features; who pays the most the fastest. Most of the BTC community doesn't even touch gambling.
You seem to know what you are saying, so i have a question to you. On the fiat poker, there are many poker networks that offer their service to poker companies, and they share poker players on their network. Wouldn't that work for btc poker?
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April 08, 2016, 10:19:28 PM |
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It is about the games. Make sure you got unique games. A good referral system with appropriate bonuses. Then start your marketing campaign and give it some time. You will see the visitors and members grow.
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April 08, 2016, 10:21:08 PM |
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I'm the author of the most secure multi-player poker engine ever made(captcha on "create" actions, end to end encryption, hardware priv-keys, TOR push server, built in mixer, proprietary protocol and server etc..). There is no money in it. Betcoin.ag at it's peak(before hacks) was barely covering overhead and it's the most marketed and popular bitcoin poker campaign to date.
I mentioned in another thread people won't even buy ready-made poker solutions for a grand..
This is what's going to happen: You're going to get 10-30 regular users at best betting pennies an hour(which you rake <=1% of each of the ~13 rounds of) and get a lot of offers to buy the full-source for a couple hundred bucks mostly from middle-eastern business types. That's -----IF----- someone doesn't make a sloppy solution and market better than you. In reality people don't care about quality or even security they care about stats and features; who pays the most the fastest. Most of the BTC community doesn't even touch gambling.
You seem to know what you are saying, so i have a question to you. On the fiat poker, there are many poker networks that offer their service to poker companies, and they share poker players on their network. Wouldn't that work for btc poker? There are probably around 1,000 players total for every bitcoin poker system combined, and I'm being modest with that figure(I've only seen around half that across all of them). You'd get laughed at by big-capital investors and registered companies because there is no money there. Fiat is different people can go on a site, deposit with a CC over a HTTPS connection to a industry-audited server, and just be playing and not have a confusing tax, technical, or legal situation. The convenience is key though. A lot of boomers who don't know the tech are the ones sitting at those tables all day and all night. Buying BTC is both shady and annoying. Who wants to put bank-wire and photocopy-ID data on startup servers that were probably configured and coded by the lowest bidder, or ran by someone who is going to run off with their money and the community around bitcoin act like it's just business within a week like with all the exchange and market hacks? The whole 'you need more games' theory has little if not no bases. Betcoin.ag had almost every poker game there was that you didn't need to read a "poker bible" to know about and averaged a few dozen plays all doing low-ball stakes(like 50,000 satoshi tops for an hour of action). Investing more money without data that suggests you should is a sucker move..
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I have faith that one day this forum will get threads where people won't just repeat their previous posts or what others have already stated in the same thread. Also that people will stop acting like BTC is toy-money and start holding vendors accountable. Naive? Maybe.
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April 08, 2016, 10:24:32 PM |
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A faucet for players to test out the site, deposit bonus, happy hour and friendly admin ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Those are one of the things ,not something that will make a website stand out. Crypto-Games has unique features like fastest dice,responsive UI and they accept majority of the crypto currencies.Now these are a few features you probably wouldn't see around so yeah,that's what makes it different.Apart from that,they have the highest paying faucet and good customer support.Though they're not as "new" mentioned in the title,this is where new gambling websites lack in terms of being exceptional.
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April 09, 2016, 01:08:27 AM |
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The problem is that there are so many gambling websites, its really difficult and hard for one to succeed. The best would of been to have innovative gambling games such as Pacman or Mario Bros, however those can make it easily to cheat or hack.
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April 09, 2016, 01:20:03 AM |
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There are hundreds of gambling websites in bitcoin community , if a new one comes out , what should that new website do to stand out and gain traction?
A unique game not yet available to existing sites. And maybe a refreshing look or user friendly interface. This could pull people in. But if you really want people to be loyal to your site, you should have a lower house edge so people can actually win in your site.
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April 09, 2016, 09:34:37 AM |
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The problem is that there are so many gambling websites, its really difficult and hard for one to succeed. The best would of been to have innovative gambling games such as Pacman or Mario Bros, however those can make it easily to cheat or hack.
Everyone has his own definition of best gambling site. Some says the best is which has best games, while some says upport, some will say the withdraw and deposits should be instant and some might say the promotions are necessary.
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bonuses with big amount. attractive design. have a good community. has a unique feature and not boring like most sites
Yes I strongly support your suggestion. Hopefully as soon as the thread Maker can quickly create sites that are highly sought after and tolerated by many people. But I think, if she makes a site that has a bonus with large numbers, then he will make a game that is very difficult to get the bonus, but it doesn't matter if the bonuses given are very worthy of being accepted. because most of the gambling sites that, if they give a big bonus, sometimes also a requirement for the withdrawal or rollover great too. as long as it looks likely to do I think yeah no problem ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Light weight website is the important part for me. So, everybody with low devices and slow connection able to load the new gambling site perfectly. Beside of that, good faucet maybe can help new sites gathering more visitors to try the site. Gambling speed is important too, so for example, if the new gambling site is a dice site, allowing gamblers to make 5 bets every seconds will be so interrested.
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there are still some areas of gambling that the casinos have not covered yet. for example i think the dice games is full of different gambling sites so there is little room for new ones but they can still be innovative with new features like accepting altcoins.
but other games (new games) are still a new area that there is little competition in them. for example i think there is not enough casinos for e-sports gambling.
But that is not because good Dice is the easiest to implement. We have so many different Dice sites because Dice is undoubtedly the prime bitcoin game, the most popular and played among bitcoin crowd. Creating something else is fine, but I feel like these games with unique concepts are having hard time to find recognition.
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April 09, 2016, 12:41:08 PM |
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there are still some areas of gambling that the casinos have not covered yet. for example i think the dice games is full of different gambling sites so there is little room for new ones but they can still be innovative with new features like accepting altcoins.
but other games (new games) are still a new area that there is little competition in them. for example i think there is not enough casinos for e-sports gambling.
But that is not because good Dice is the easiest to implement. We have so many different Dice sites because Dice is undoubtedly the prime bitcoin game, the most popular and played among bitcoin crowd. Creating something else is fine, but I feel like these games with unique concepts are having hard time to find recognition. i think the only reason that those games are not being successful or have a hard time making money is that they are bad at advertising. for example i see a lot of Poker and dice game advertisement here on the forum but i never see a new game advertising and making any effort.
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April 09, 2016, 01:45:20 PM |
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The only 'new games' that are going to pull in more users have nothing to do with poker and aren't going to be simple mechanics that you can do inside a month. There is also no science to game design success once you go outside of proven casino psychology.
With poker there is still what I was talking about too. New games aren't the problem. The is absolutely no bases for that claim either.
This stuff is talked about way too lightly here.. Even if you're coding it yourself there is cost/investment overhead. You don't just throw this stuff up one night and watch the money roll in..
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I have faith that one day this forum will get threads where people won't just repeat their previous posts or what others have already stated in the same thread. Also that people will stop acting like BTC is toy-money and start holding vendors accountable. Naive? Maybe.
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The only 'new games' that are going to pull in more users have nothing to do with poker and aren't going to be simple mechanics that you can do inside a month. There is also no science to game design success once you go outside of proven casino psychology.
With poker there is still what I was talking about too. New games aren't the problem. The is absolutely no bases for that claim either.
This stuff is talked about way too lightly here.. Even if you're coding it yourself there is cost/investment overhead. You don't just throw this stuff up one night and watch the money roll in..
Even if someone is succesful to code such a game, there is no telling that people will be playing on the aite. So far from my personal experience, there has been many great games from all over gambling sites in this forum hkwever it seems the gambling market is saturated especially bitcoin gambling
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April 09, 2016, 02:47:25 PM |
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The only 'new games' that are going to pull in more users have nothing to do with poker and aren't going to be simple mechanics that you can do inside a month. There is also no science to game design success once you go outside of proven casino psychology.
With poker there is still what I was talking about too. New games aren't the problem. The is absolutely no bases for that claim either.
This stuff is talked about way too lightly here.. Even if you're coding it yourself there is cost/investment overhead. You don't just throw this stuff up one night and watch the money roll in..
Even if someone is succesful to code such a game, there is no telling that people will be playing on the aite. So far from my personal experience, there has been many great games from all over gambling sites in this forum hkwever it seems the gambling market is saturated especially bitcoin gambling nah, the problem is not because of saturation of the bitcoin gambling market. i think it is mostly because those new games are created by people who are just interested in making a quick money in the shortest time with the smallest effort. it is a business like anything else, so to be successful you need to have a business mind. you can't just find a niche and think all is over. it is just 10% of the work.
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All business are the same at the fundamental level of "what makes them stand out". They key is simple: make the people feel like they are getting something with your business that they cannot find on the competition. This can go from better rates, to a better looking website, to free bonuses... and of course, invest money in marketing. Marketing is key!!
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