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February 15, 2016, 01:45:01 AM
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1150 CPUs will never be cheap. AMD CPUs usually are cheap but intel always holds their value and especially the current generation. I had to buy a CPU+MOBO this week also. I just got a MOBO from MemoryExpress clearance section and got the G3258 Intel CPU which was $95. The mobo was only $70.

In 6 months you can probably resell on eBay for almost the same price as new.


I dunno where you live, but online and even at retail computer stores in the area a G3258 goes for like $50-60 and with a mobo combo. usually even less.

I'd NEVER buy a used CPU or motherboard as 50% chance it will die on you within 6 months. I work in IT and support PC's and servers and this has been pretty much consistent with used hardware.

$60 USD is like $85 CAD, which is roughly what I paid for.

I'd never have a CPU ever die on me ever. Even if I overclocked it, fan died, bad cooling. Same with the motherboard. There are no moving parts. Electronics usually last forever, people throw them away because of newer technology.

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February 15, 2016, 01:48:27 AM
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1150 CPUs will never be cheap. AMD CPUs usually are cheap but intel always holds their value and especially the current generation. I had to buy a CPU+MOBO this week also. I just got a MOBO from MemoryExpress clearance section and got the G3258 Intel CPU which was $95. The mobo was only $70.

In 6 months you can probably resell on eBay for almost the same price as new.


Um, i can get Celeron 1150 for 40$ here from retail. I'm not sure which one the G3258 is but, thats insanely expensive. The mobo brand new on amazon is 40$ as well.

I looked everywhere and that LGA1150 Celeron is out of stock everywhere. Post a link and i'll return the G3258 and get that instead.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX52767

Also post the $40 mobo on amazon with 5 PCIe slots.



http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007670%20600436886

So 43$

And http://www.amazon.ca/ASRock-H81-Pro-BTC-LGA1150/dp/B00HQATEJ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1455500776&sr=8-2&keywords=btc+pro+81

But the seller selling for 60$CAD+5$ shipping has sold out, the price is 80CAD now. And its 6 slots not 5.

Anyhow, i dont know any retailers that allow you to return CPU, but if you(the dreamer) can, cheers.


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February 15, 2016, 02:02:46 AM
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1150 CPUs will never be cheap. AMD CPUs usually are cheap but intel always holds their value and especially the current generation. I had to buy a CPU+MOBO this week also. I just got a MOBO from MemoryExpress clearance section and got the G3258 Intel CPU which was $95. The mobo was only $70.

In 6 months you can probably resell on eBay for almost the same price as new.


Um, i can get Celeron 1150 for 40$ here from retail. I'm not sure which one the G3258 is but, thats insanely expensive. The mobo brand new on amazon is 40$ as well.

I looked everywhere and that LGA1150 Celeron is out of stock everywhere. Post a link and i'll return the G3258 and get that instead.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX52767

Also post the $40 mobo on amazon with 5 PCIe slots.



http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007670%20600436886

So 43$

And http://www.amazon.ca/ASRock-H81-Pro-BTC-LGA1150/dp/B00HQATEJ0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1455500776&sr=8-2&keywords=btc+pro+81

But the seller selling for 60$CAD+5$ shipping has sold out, the price is 80CAD now. And its 6 slots not 5.

Anyhow, i dont know any retailers that allow you to return CPU, but if you(the dreamer) can, cheers.

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February 15, 2016, 02:04:34 AM
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I wouldn't touch a celeron with a 10 foot pole. Slow POS. I guess it'd be ok with linux/ubuntu, but forget windows.

I never said anything about returning a CPU.

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February 15, 2016, 02:06:03 AM
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Also those ASRock Bitcoin Mining motherboards are hard to resell because no gamer wants to buy them because there is only 1 PCIe slot and no PCI slots.

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February 15, 2016, 02:07:33 AM
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Also those ASRock Bitcoin Mining motherboards are hard to resell because no gamer wants to buy them because there is only 1 PCIe slot and no PCI slots.

Hence the 'bitcoin' name..

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February 15, 2016, 02:09:42 AM
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I wouldn't touch a celeron with a 10 foot pole. Slow POS. I guess it'd be ok with linux/ubuntu, but forget windows.

I never said anything about returning a CPU.

Thats what i run my rigs on atm. And i use W10 to bypass the W7 issues with limited GPU#. And I'm sorry i confused you and adaseb's posts.


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February 15, 2016, 02:24:00 AM
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I wouldn't touch a celeron with a 10 foot pole. Slow POS. I guess it'd be ok with linux/ubuntu, but forget windows.

I never said anything about returning a CPU.

Thats what i run my rigs on atm. And i use W10 to bypass the W7 issues with limited GPU#. And I'm sorry i confused you and adaseb's posts.

You run windows 10 as a GPU mining rig with a celeron!?

When I tested 2-4-6 core cpu usage (windows 8.1 though) it had very high CPU usage unless it was 4 or 6 cores on ETH at least.
Maybe other cryptos are more forgiving.

Just as a systems builder / reseller, I rather spend a few $$ extra and get something that runs better than the bottom of the barrel I guess.
For normal windows use, celerons are utter sheyt.

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February 15, 2016, 02:27:19 AM
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I wouldn't touch a celeron with a 10 foot pole. Slow POS. I guess it'd be ok with linux/ubuntu, but forget windows.

I never said anything about returning a CPU.

Thats what i run my rigs on atm. And i use W10 to bypass the W7 issues with limited GPU#. And I'm sorry i confused you and adaseb's posts.

You run windows 10 as a GPU mining rig with a celeron!?

When I tested 2-4-6 core cpu usage (windows 8.1 though) it had very high CPU usage unless it was 4 or 6 cores on ETH at least.
Maybe other cryptos are more forgiving.

Just as a systems builder / reseller, I rather spend a few $$ extra and get something that runs better than the bottom of the barrel I guess.
For normal windows use, celerons are utter sheyt.

I got a 4 GPU rig running nice and stable with a Sempron. Why overpay and increase ROI times.

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February 15, 2016, 03:00:36 AM
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I wouldn't touch a celeron with a 10 foot pole. Slow POS. I guess it'd be ok with linux/ubuntu, but forget windows.

I never said anything about returning a CPU.

Thats what i run my rigs on atm. And i use W10 to bypass the W7 issues with limited GPU#. And I'm sorry i confused you and adaseb's posts.

You run windows 10 as a GPU mining rig with a celeron!?

When I tested 2-4-6 core cpu usage (windows 8.1 though) it had very high CPU usage unless it was 4 or 6 cores on ETH at least.
Maybe other cryptos are more forgiving.

Just as a systems builder / reseller, I rather spend a few $$ extra and get something that runs better than the bottom of the barrel I guess.
For normal windows use, celerons are utter sheyt.

Huh well they're low end but high end CPU's arent even twice as fast. Like right now its running w10 with 5 gpu + RDP remote view + monitoring + proxy at 11~13% cpu usage~
https://i.imgur.com/RImFL2t.png?1


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February 15, 2016, 03:06:04 AM
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Huh well they're low end but high end CPU's arent even twice as fast. Like right now its running w10 with 5 gpu + RDP remote view + monitoring + proxy at 11~13% cpu usage~
https://i.imgur.com/RImFL2t.png?1


Actually you'd be surprised. Even a G3258 is more than a couple of times faster in everything than a celeron. Celerons get bogged down once you have disk access and cpu utilization together. Forget actual number crunching.

Glad it's working for you though. Surprised, but cool beans.

You might ant to change your farm-refresh times on your mining rig though.
Looks like it's pulling new work every 7.xx seconds. Your chances of losing a block-find race are about 15x more than a local solo pool which runs at under 0.5seconds.. Just fyi.

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Huh well they're low end but high end CPU's arent even twice as fast. Like right now its running w10 with 5 gpu + RDP remote view + monitoring + proxy at 11~13% cpu usage~
https://i.imgur.com/RImFL2t.png?1


Actually you'd be surprised. Even a G3258 is more than a couple of times faster in everything than a celeron. Celerons get bogged down once you have disk access and cpu utilization together. Forget actual number crunching.

Glad it's working for you though. Surprised, but cool beans.

You might ant to change your farm-refresh times on your mining rig though.
Looks like it's pulling new work every 7.xx seconds. Your chances of losing a block-find race are about 15x more than a local solo pool which runs at under 0.5seconds.. Just fyi.


I'm using 200, do you have a recommendation?

And
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-Intel-Celeron-G1820

I dont think 10% more processing resources would matter much when the cpu is at 12% load. A high end i5 doesnt even have twice the per core performance. Though it does have twice as many cores.


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February 15, 2016, 03:16:19 AM
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I have all of the items you are looking for: Risers, mobo, CPU, ram, HD's etc.  Grin

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February 15, 2016, 03:17:32 AM
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I'm using 200, do you have a recommendation?

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http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-Intel-Celeron-G1820

I dont think 10% more processing resources would matter much when the cpu is at 12% load. A high end i5 doesnt even have twice the per core performance. Though it does have twice as many cores.
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No offense, but benchmarks and comparing them on paper is useless. I'm talking real life. Being in the business I pretty much get to play with any type of computer gear on the market or coming out. Even the lowly G3258 (which is actually an amazingly overclockable CPU matching an i5 almost) will run circles around a celeron based system of the same specs. Loading even basic IE, chrome, MS Office software, forget gaming or anything intensive even. I never recommend celerons to any customers even if they are cheap as heck. You get what you pay for. Now if we were to compare an I5 vs an I7 based system, yes, there would be little difference. Between a celeron and an i5 as you mention is crazy to even compare.

If you have your farm refresh set at 200 but it still pulls 7.xx seconds, something is wrong. Does your window ever refresh/write the text slowly with a slight delay? That's a sign of CPU under-performance right there. You can make up for it with more RAM and fast SSD, but eventually it slows things down still.

On my rigs I have them set at 200 also, local network mining is under 0.25seconds and pool mining is under 0.45seconds.
I over spec my rigs, yes (all running on AMD FX-6 core, or intel I5 cpu's, but they are fast as all heck.


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February 15, 2016, 03:25:36 AM
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February 15, 2016, 03:29:55 AM
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No offense, but benchmarks and comparing them on paper is useless. I'm talking real life. Being in the business I pretty much get to play with any type of computer gear on the market or coming out. Even the lowly G3258 (which is actually an amazingly overclockable CPU matching an i5 almost) will run circles around a celeron based system of the same specs. Loading even basic IE, chrome, MS Office software, forget gaming or anything intensive even. I never recommend celerons to any customers even if they are cheap as heck. You get what you pay for. Now if we were to compare an I5 vs an I7 based system, yes, there would be little difference. Between a celeron and an i5 as you mention is crazy to even compare.

I'm not sure why you're assuming i'm not. I have a i3 too, and i get 10% cpu usage. I get 0.2x refresh rate actual seconds on it. Just as i do on the Celeron.

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If you have your farm refresh set at 200 but it still pulls 7.xx seconds, something is wrong. Does your window ever refresh/write the text slowly with a slight delay? That's a sign of CPU under-performance right there. You can make up for it with more RAM and fast SSD, but eventually it slows things down still.

On my rigs I have them set at 200 also, local network mining is under 0.25seconds and pool mining is under 0.45seconds.
I over spec my rigs, yes (all running on AMD FX-6 core, or intel I5 cpu's, but they are fast as all heck.


Is that so? You say 7.xx seconds but the farm refresh is actually truly every 0.2 seconds, you can see this on the screenshot. The 7.XX seconds is not the farm refresh, its the round running time. You can see on the screenshot, that (and not that i mind it) but you're just bashing for the sake of bashing, since on the right, if pay attention, you will see the .2 seconds steps.

7.107 s
7.31 s
7.522 s

Looks pretty damn close to 0.2 to me.

And i get some slowdowns when writing DAG only.

So if you want to pay 200$ for a CPU, thats you, but i dont have any problem with the 40$ CPU, especially since on the permanent setup, they will all be running on custom linux distro.


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February 15, 2016, 03:36:51 AM
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Is that so? You say 7.xx seconds but the farm refresh is actually truly every 0.2 seconds, you can see this on the screenshot. The 7.XX seconds is not the farm refresh, its the round running time. You can see on the screenshot, that (and not that i mind it) but you're just bashing for the sake of bashing, since on the right, if pay attention, you will see the .2 seconds steps.

7.107 s
7.31 s
7.522 s

Looks pretty damn close to 0.2 to me.

And i get some slowdowns when writing DAG only.

So if you want to pay 200$ for a CPU, thats you, but i dont have any problem with the 40$ CPU, especially since on the permanent setup, they will all be running on custom linux distro.

LOL fine. I'm done trying to help ya. Good luck with your crap bud..
PS. you're a little confused over there yourself with pretty much everything you just said. LOL.

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February 15, 2016, 03:42:16 AM
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Is that so? You say 7.xx seconds but the farm refresh is actually truly every 0.2 seconds, you can see this on the screenshot. The 7.XX seconds is not the farm refresh, its the round running time. You can see on the screenshot, that (and not that i mind it) but you're just bashing for the sake of bashing, since on the right, if pay attention, you will see the .2 seconds steps.

7.107 s
7.31 s
7.522 s

Looks pretty damn close to 0.2 to me.

And i get some slowdowns when writing DAG only.

So if you want to pay 200$ for a CPU, thats you, but i dont have any problem with the 40$ CPU, especially since on the permanent setup, they will all be running on custom linux distro.

LOL fine. I'm done trying to help ya. Good luck with your crap bud..
PS. you're a little confused over there yourself with pretty much everything you just said. LOL.


Dont be salty, the screenshot clearly show 5 refresh per second. I'm pretty sure that means the farm refresh 200 is working fine. If i'm misunderstanding, and you don't mind cutting the insults from your posts, feel free to explain.

If not i'll be glad to continue using my crappy poor setup and let you be on your merry way out of my thread. Smiley


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February 15, 2016, 04:07:09 AM
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Deal closed, i got all i need for now, so i will lock. If you see this and have a spare LGA1150 + 4gb+ ram for sale, still PM me if you can beat 30-40$ shipped, maybe i'd grab some spare hardware.


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