Bitcoin Forum
April 26, 2024, 01:26:23 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: House edge of slots?  (Read 1225 times)
jacee (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 1024


View Profile
February 10, 2016, 11:52:04 PM
 #1

Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. Sad ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?
The Bitcoin software, network, and concept is called "Bitcoin" with a capitalized "B". Bitcoin currency units are called "bitcoins" with a lowercase "b" -- this is often abbreviated BTC.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
Patatas
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1115

Providing AI/ChatGpt Services - PM!


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 12:11:27 AM
 #2

The house edge varies with every website.Most of the website do mention the house edge of the slots,infact for any games.To my information house edges ranges from 1% to 4% for the slots which I have played.Don't think it gets lower than that.There a nice article you might wish you read on reddit about house edges in gambling https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinGambling/comments/36z3wi/which_is_the_lowest_house_edge_fair_bitcoin_casino/
BigMac
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 896
Merit: 1000



View Profile
February 11, 2016, 12:25:36 AM
 #3

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

There are some provably fair slots, such as the one on satoshidice, coinroyale and crypto-games.net, but there are also a lot of non provably fair slots out there. I am not interested in slots very much and so I have not much idea about its house edge.

Araudan
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 332
Merit: 250


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 12:32:44 AM
 #4

The house edge of slots is the biggest for a casino Smiley
unholycactus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1023



View Profile WWW
February 11, 2016, 02:31:42 AM
 #5

Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. Sad ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

The way I've seen it programmed is like this: machines have a return rate.
For example, if everyone puts 1BTC, the machine will keep 30% of that and return 70% to the players.
A game like blackjack have a return rate of about 99-99.5% depending on the rules and assuming the player plays perfectly.

What most people have a hard time understanding is that many players can put everything they have (lose 100%). This happens often since most people can't manage their bankroll properly (although there's no profitable way to do it statistically).
Followed by a single one who plays and win many times his investment (anywhere from 1 to 1000x or even more).
Superhitech
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 06:16:43 AM
 #6

Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. Sad ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

I'd say play dice instead of slots, as dice has a much lower house edge than slots.

The only advantage I can think of when playing slots is that you can get some visuals; in dice you can only see numbers while slots is more entertaining with it's exciting visuals.
NorrisK
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007



View Profile
February 11, 2016, 06:30:58 AM
 #7

Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. Sad ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

I'd say play dice instead of slots, as dice has a much lower house edge than slots.

The only advantage I can think of when playing slots is that you can get some visuals; in dice you can only see numbers while slots is more entertaining with it's exciting visuals.

The gambling sites could easily include some visuals of rolling a dice, but this would greatly reduce the speed of the rolls and thus the profit of the dice site.

The same way slots can be made non visual with only numbers, but because we are so used to it, nobody would like to see something like that.
bitbaby
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812
Merit: 1000



View Profile WWW
February 11, 2016, 07:05:00 AM
 #8

Most of the fancy slots are not provably fair, maybe its because they have lot of elements/small-games which are part of it and the house edge should be mentioned at the site you're playing at.

Erza
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 10:23:29 AM
 #9

Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. Sad ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

I'd say play dice instead of slots, as dice has a much lower house edge than slots.

The only advantage I can think of when playing slots is that you can get some visuals; in dice you can only see numbers while slots is more entertaining with it's exciting visuals.

But for dice game house edge only affected in a long run and when you are using some strategy. If you are just manual bet I dont think that  house edge really affect you. But for slot you can suddenly hit a jackpot with just one roll too, although you played with house edge although it is high I am sure you can get a good profit too
Chemistry1988
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 11:05:08 AM
 #10

But for dice game house edge only affected in a long run and when you are using some strategy. If you are just manual bet I dont think that  house edge really affect you.

This is simply not true. Even if you just make only one bet, a 1% house edge would bring your winning chance 1% lower. For example for x2 bet, it becomes 49.5% rather than 50%, making your expected return to be always only 99% of your wagered.
jacee (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 1024


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 11:09:09 AM
 #11

Yea well, what I understand with your posts is that slota has a higher house edge than any other gambling game. I just fancy playing slots because I like the graphics specially those video slots. My favorite is Jekyle and Hyde. Cheesy
pereira4
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1610
Merit: 1183


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 12:23:58 PM
 #12

It depends on the site. Bitcoinvideocasino is my favorite slot site because you can select how many lines to play, up to 20, and you can make a lot of money with the progressive wins and bonuses if you get lucky, and I also like it graphics wise. For me the 3 slot machines are boring, I need 5.
SDice_CTO
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 129
Merit: 100


Satoshi Dice Support


View Profile WWW
February 11, 2016, 12:57:54 PM
 #13

Hey guys, I was wondering how does gambling in slots works? I have played last night and unfortunately got lost 0.1 BTC because I got greedy wanting to get more profit. (I really can't still move on from this loss. Sad ) LOL.

I mean, is slots games also provably game? Does it have a house edge or something? When it comes to provability of winning, is it jut like a dice game or worst?

Real casinos usually have around 3-4% edge on slot games. It varies and is for example higher in high end casinos and lower in places where Las Vegas locals play.

Slots generally display paylines and payouts, but people that made their own slots and post on this forum may not display this properly. It's complicated to calculate actual payout so it's usually done by running a few billion simulation spins.

btw, I think you mean probability when you say provability Smiley

MegaDice.com - Play games / be the bankroll Please set your password
jacee (OP)
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 1024


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 01:05:49 PM
 #14

It depends on the site. Bitcoinvideocasino is my favorite slot site because you can select how many lines to play, up to 20, and you can make a lot of money with the progressive wins and bonuses if you get lucky, and I also like it graphics wise. For me the 3 slot machines are boring, I need 5.

Faik all slots I have played has an option to configure the number. That's the best feature of slots for me. Cheesy Btw, do you know any slots game that has a lower min. bet? I play at bitstarz and the min. bet is 1mbtc per bet. They used to have a 0.5 mBtc min. bet the last time I played.
maku
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000



View Profile
February 11, 2016, 01:32:53 PM
 #15

Interesting facts about slots machines: in real live casinos slots are primary money making game for the house.
No other casino game brings more money to the house. Normally House Edge of Slots are in the range of 2%-15%

Patatas
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1115

Providing AI/ChatGpt Services - PM!


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 01:34:57 PM
 #16

Interesting facts about slots machines: in real live casinos slots are primary money making game for the house.
No other casino game brings more money to the house. Normally House Edge of Slots are in the range of 2%-15%
They're still subjective in regards two every website.I can link you to good slots which have house edges as low as 1% and some of the best online casinos have house edges to the maximum of 4%.15% is way too much I feel,haven't really see any websites lately offering that high edges in this competitive market.
Mickeyb
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 798
Merit: 1000

Move On !!!!!!


View Profile
February 11, 2016, 01:42:38 PM
 #17

Although house edge guarantees that you will lose in the long term, because you more or less have no control over what payout you want in slots, they can essentially fuck you up in the short term by having very high payouts for a select interval, while having very low payout for others.
shanem
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000



View Profile
February 11, 2016, 01:56:01 PM
 #18

The house edge of slots is very high based on real-life casinos. I believe that online casinos are no different. If the house edge of slots is low, a casino would have made announcement to everybody.

     

            █           
           ██           
          ██████         
         ████████         
        ██████████       
       ████████████       
      ██████████████     
     ████████████████     
    ██████████████████   
   ████████████████████   
  ██████████▀▀██████████ 
 ███▀▄████▀    ▀████▄▀███
██▀ ▄██▀▀        ▀▀██▄ ▀██
 

░▄███████████▄░░░▄███████████▄░░▄███▄░░░░░░▄███▄░░▄██████████▄░░░████████████████░░░░██████████░░░░███████████████░░█████████████████
█████░░░░░░░███░████▀░░░░░▀████░█████▄░░░░▄█████░███▀░░░░░░▀███░███░░░░████░░░███░░███░░░░░░░░██░░███░░░░░░░░░░░███░███████░░░░██████
█████░░░░░░░███░████░░░░░░░████░▀█████▄░░▄█████▀░███░░░░░░░░███░███░░░░████░░███░░░███░░░██░░░███░███░░░██████░░███░░░░░███░░░░██░░░░
█████░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░░████░░▀█████░░█████▀░░███░░░░░░░░███░███░░░░███░░░███░░░███░░████░░███░███░░░██████░░███░░░░░███░░░░██░░░░
█████░░░░░░░░░░░████░░░░░░█████░░░▀████▄▄████▀░░░███▄░░░░░░▄███░███░░░░███░░███░░░░██░░░████░░███░███░░░░░░░░░░███▀░░░░░███░░░░██░░░░
█████░░░░░░░░░░░██████████████░░░░░▀████████▀░░░░████████████▀░░███░░░░░░░░░███░░░███░░░████░░░██░███░░░█████████░░░░░░░███░░░░██░░░░
█████░░░░░░░███░████░░░░░░░████▄░░░░████████░░░░░███████░░░░░░░░███░░░░███░░░███░░██░░░░░░░░░░░██░███░░░░░░░░░░███▄░░░░░███░░░░██░░░░
█████░░░░░░░███░████░░░░░░░█████░░░░████████░░░░░███████░░░░░░░░███░░░░████░░░███░██░░░░████░░░░█░███░░░█████▄░░███░░░░░███░░░░██░░░░
███████████████░████░░░░░░░█████░░░░████████░░░░░███████░░░░░░░░███░░░░████░░░░██░██░░░██████░░░█░███░░░██████░░███░░░░░███░░░░██░░░░
░▀███████████▀░░░███░░░░░░░████░░░░░░██████░░░░░░░██████░░░░░░░░░████████████████░███████████████░░███████████████░░░░░░█████████░░░░
|
▂▃▅ Quick buy and sell bitcoins online. Fast and secure ▅▃▂
Facebook】【Twitter】【Telegram】【Medium】【Instagram
|
eli113
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 358
Merit: 254


void


View Profile WWW
February 11, 2016, 02:14:46 PM
 #19

the nature of slot machine games is way diferent than games like dice and such
house edge has direct impact on payout when you play dice , you get always -HE% on your winnings

but in slots you cant choose your payout X so the most important factor is
the payout table , house edge is secondary concern

lets say a slot game has a rare combo to pay 1 / 100000 spins
if that combo pays lets say 20000x then for all casual users the average house edge
they face every day is 20000/100000 = 20% plus the usual house edge

take a good look at payout tables of slot games you want to play at first
if you see such rare combos paying very big payout x then you will know
for sure just one thing : unless you actually hit that rare combo you are about
to feeding that slot for very very long time.

a well balanced payout table paying from even money up to 1000-2000x and
a house edge up to 2% it is better than a 0% edge and a bad payout table


void
DogecoinMachine
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2868
Merit: 1131


www.Crypto.Games: Multiple Games, Multiple Coins


View Profile WWW
February 11, 2016, 02:51:12 PM
 #20

https://www.crypto-games.net has a competitive house edge of 1.97% with max win of 5 BTC, 5 mio Doge, 500 LTC,...

█████████████████████████
███████▄▄▀▀███▀▀▄▄███████
████████▄███▄████████
█████▄▄█▀▀███▀▀█▄▄█████
████▀▀██▀██████▀██▀▀████
████▄█████████████▄████
███████▀███████▀███████
████▀█████████████▀████
████▄▄██▄████▄██▄▄████
█████▀▀███▀▄████▀▀█████
████████▀███▀████████
███████▀▀▄▄███▄▄▀▀███████
█████████████████████████
.
 CRYPTOGAMES 
.
 Catch the winning spirit! 
█▄░▀███▌░▄
███▄░▀█░▐██▄
▀▀▀▀▀░░░▀▀▀▀▀
████▌░▐█████▀
████░░█████
███▌░▐███▀
███░░███
██▌░▐█▀
PROGRESSIVE
      JACKPOT      
██░░▄▄
▀▀░░████▄
▄▄▄▄██▀░░▄▄
░░░▀▀█░░▀██▄
███▄░░▀▄░█▀▀
█████░░█░░▄▄█
█████░░██████
█████░░█░░▀▀█
LOW HOUSE
         EDGE         
██▄
███░░░░░░░▄▄
█▀░░░░░░░████
█▄░░░░░░░░█▀
██▄░░░░░░▄█
███▄▄░░▄██▌
██████████
█████████▌
PREMIUM VIP
 MEMBERSHIP 
DICE   ROULETTE   BLACKJACK   KENO   MINESWEEPER   VIDEO POKER   PLINKO   SLOT   LOTTERY
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!