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January 15, 2013, 03:41:33 AM
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good luck ortiz is mexican   off-limits in other words....

I wish Ortiz was Mexican, so she'd be their problem instead of infecting our country.  But she is 100% our citizen, and absolutely emblematic of Obama's Brave New America.

OTOH, I don't think Anon will forget...or forgive.   Wink

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January 15, 2013, 03:48:58 AM
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I wish Ortiz was Mexican

Correct , she is a mexican who lives in the U.S  which means you can't do anything or your are  racists prick ...sort of like how Obama got elected nobody could do any vetting w/o being called racist ..

now we'll reap what we sow....


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January 15, 2013, 03:53:45 AM
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So what was he actually stealing ( in detail ). I read it was " sensitive journals " What the fk does that mean . Was it " national security" where thousands set to die if released? Wt fuck was the punishment so harsh? Wt fuck did he do?

Some journals that were published by a government website, that just made these journals available online to public. JSTOR (the gov website) told the investigators to drop charges.. but they didn't.


Ok so is this like stealing books out of a library.?

He didn't steal he wanted to share. JSTOR is a government site and is owned by us - americans. In any case these documents are free to get from that website.
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January 15, 2013, 04:02:55 AM
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Petition to remove her -> http://wh.gov/E3v1, about 2K more signatures needed for the WH to respond.

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January 15, 2013, 04:25:28 AM
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Seeing the results of government oppression always makes me really sad. I hadn't even heard of Aaron Swartz before this, but this incident bothers me more than similar ones (which are far too common) because I probably would've also been tempted to publicly release the PACER and JSTOR stuff if I had access. And it's such a shame to lose such an intelligent person.

I hope he died mostly because of his mental illness and not because he saw no other way out of his situation. That'd make it a little less sad in my mind.

Ironically, Swartz was a statist. He wanted to increase the power of government even as he was fighting against government corruption/oppression. I guess it would make some sense to propose eliminating government corruption and then increasing government power, but like most statists he didn't notice this problem. (Not that this flaw made him a bad person overall. He probably had a very positive net impact on the world.)

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January 15, 2013, 04:43:24 AM
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Her being from massachusetts, I think she's puerto rican. Semantics but, myself being puerto rica, I hate other pr's with a passion.

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January 15, 2013, 06:19:08 AM
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck

Incredible... the power of internet. Now already 25331 signatures. This means that the White House has to answer this issue.

I hope they answer it better than the TSA issue which was a total disgrace.

Some interesting info here:
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January 15, 2013, 07:10:22 AM
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good luck ortiz is mexican   off-limits in other words....

I wish Ortiz was Mexican, so she'd be their problem instead of infecting our country.  But she is 100% our citizen, and absolutely emblematic of Obama's Brave New America.

OTOH, I don't think Anon will forget...or forgive.   Wink

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January 15, 2013, 05:06:42 PM
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The sad thing is I've seen articles where murderers and rapists get threatened with less jail time than that.
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January 15, 2013, 05:38:02 PM
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Seeing the results of government oppression always makes me really sad. I hadn't even heard of Aaron Swartz before this, but this incident bothers me more than similar ones (which are far too common) because I probably would've also been tempted to publicly release the PACER and JSTOR stuff if I had access. And it's such a shame to lose such an intelligent person.

The PACER stuff is public court records.  It's been released, entirely legally.  Here's the archive.

The government charges $0.08 a page for public access to these documents, but if you have access to PACER and the RECAP extension installed, it automatically uploads anything you download from PACER to the permanent archive, so that it can from then on be downloaded for free.

The government does not like this, needless to say, but there is nothing illegal about it.  The most they did is put a warning on PACER sites claiming that the plugin represents a security threat.  This may be the case if what you are downloading would somehow give something away (i.e. that you or someone with RECAP is researching something), but it's easy enough to turn off the extension when appropriate.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they went after him so hard on something that was a minor illegality to retaliate for things he had done that were entirely legal.
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January 16, 2013, 10:00:32 PM
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Petition to remove her -> http://wh.gov/E3v1, about 2K more signatures needed for the WH to respond.

Seems like the white house has raised the limit to 100K signers. Don't know if it applies to this petition.
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January 18, 2013, 05:34:26 PM
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Linus Torvalds, I love you! It's so refreshing to see people speak their mind like this. No bullshit. Just told plainly like it is.

His words: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LinusTorvalds/posts/ggzfzKyrcRQ


http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/01/17/us-attorney-statement-on-the-prosecution-of-aaron-swartz/

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The U.S. attorney for Massachusetts, Carmen Ortiz, issued a statement late Wednesday on the prosecution of Internet activist Aaron Swartz, whose suicide last week set off a wave of criticism of her office.

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    STATEMENT OF UNITED STATES ATTORNEY CARMEN M. ORTIZ
    REGARDING THE DEATH OF AARON SWARTZ

    As a parent and a sister, I can only imagine the pain felt by the family and friends of Aaron Swartz, and I want to extend my heartfelt sympathy to everyone who knew and loved this young man.

Yes, please play the 'family' card. Personally I see it the same way as I see crocodile tears. Please could politicians please leave the personal bullshit out of their speeches. They know they're in the spotlight, and there's a reason why Obama and other politicians try to paint them selves as perfect men with picture perfect families. People are stupid, many fall for stuff like this. Look, she's only a human too. Bah..

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I know that there is little I can say to abate the anger felt by those who believe that this office’s prosecution of Mr. Swartz was unwarranted and somehow led to the tragic result of him taking his own life.

No shit...

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I must, however, make clear that this office’s conduct was appropriate in bringing and handling this case.


Swartz was innocent, and here's the evidence:
http://io9.com/5975592/aaron-swartz-died-innocent-++-here-is-the-evidence


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The career prosecutors handling this matter took on the difficult task of enforcing a law they had taken an oath to uphold, and did so reasonably.

I suggest the career should end right here. They have provably shown bad judgement. There's no point in making an example out of a defenseless young man who has comitted no crimes.


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The prosecutors recognized that there was no evidence against Mr. Swartz indicating that he committed his acts for personal financial gain, and they recognized that his conduct – while a violation of the law – did not warrant the severe punishments authorized by Congress and called for by the Sentencing Guidelines in appropriate cases.

No shit...

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That is why in the discussions with his counsel about a resolution of the case this office sought an appropriate sentence that matched the alleged conduct – a sentence that we would recommend to the judge of six months in a low security setting.

Six months in a low security setting ? What have you been smoking ?

http://www.justice.gov/usao/ma/news/2011/July/SwartzAaronPR.html

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AARON SWARTZ, 24, was charged in an indictment with wire fraud, computer fraud, unlawfully obtaining information from a protected computer, and recklessly damaging a protected computer. If convicted on these charges, SWARTZ faces up to 35 years in prison, to be followed by three years of supervised release, restitution, forfeiture and a fine of up to $1 million.


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While at the same time, his defense counsel would have been free to recommend a sentence of probation. Ultimately, any sentence imposed would have been up to the judge. At no time did this office ever seek – or ever tell Mr. Swartz’s attorneys that it intended to seek – maximum penalties under the law.

See above.

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As federal prosecutors, our mission includes protecting the use of computers and the Internet by enforcing the law as fairly and responsibly as possible. We strive to do our best to fulfill this mission every day.

You don't.

Linus is a fucking hero. You Carmen Ortiz is a liar.
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January 19, 2013, 05:42:23 AM
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Correct , she is a mexican who lives in the U.S  which means you can't do anything or your are  racists prick ...sort of like how Obama got elected nobody could do any vetting w/o being called racist ..

Let's not forget the misguided practice of using her gender as a replacement for actual qualifications also played an equal role in inflicting her idiocy upon the world in general, and Aaron Swartz in particular.

Notice she never had a real job in the private sector, where merit is ruthlessly assessed in every court decision.

Instead Ms. Ortiz could only fake success, using the unlimited power of the US police state to bankrupt, bully, and otherwise coerce her victims until victorious.


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I wonder if Aaron still had funds sitting at Mt Gox.

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I have to ask, why did Swartz want to release the articles when they're all free? I've had access to JSTOR since high school... and I still do if I could remember my login information. Plus, it's not like the articles are anything controversial or secretive.
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I wonder if Aaron still had funds sitting at Mt Gox.

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