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February 12, 2016, 10:52:00 AM
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Not sure if this really belongs here or even this thread is relevant.Anyhow this is the issue:

Useryellowcat1771 has recently launched his website ,which he is trying to promote on this forum (that's nice)..by hosting fake giveaway's.Here's how :

He started this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359803.0 where a user gets  $100 for guessing the right number which is in "OP's Mind".Whoever guesses this magical number gets $100.And as usual a newbie genius was born at the right moment on this forum which goes by the name synthbot.This newbie prodigy however used his Jedi Mind Tricks to guess the number and won the giveaway.Completely legit.Now when OP was asked to show the proofs of the payment of $100 to synthbot,Op said this :
The user HAS NOT been online in the past 5 hours
Here is his profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=753030
Last Active:   February 11, 2016, 12:45:09 AM

Seems like the newbie just appeared here to show his Jedi Tricks,like every other Young Jedi,things like money didn't bother him and he disappeared forever.

Also yellowcat1771 has this thread in Meta where he seems to know a lot about creating multiple accounts on forum to make $6000 a month (just saying).

Some comments that might interest you :
@yellowcat isn't synthbot your alt? I saw both you guys are selling a paxful account. I'm not sure tho. Just saying.
It's just odd that you made a giveaway of $100 and you are giving the price to a newbie. Anyway, he did guessed your number.
@synthbot congrats mate!  

I was thinking the exact same thing. Pretty sure this was a fakeass giveaway. I noticed the article was about bots, winner is synthbot, both selling paxful accts. Just smells fishy as hell the way he also didnt announce it right away soon as someone guessed the number and a newb wins HAHAHA
and more... (also he hasn't replied to sho's comment on the thread)

Leaving all that apart,yet he started a new giveaway here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361890.0 This time it's with new rules :
You have to post his website link anywhere on the forum and then choose a number between 1-250 for $100.
I Left him a negative feedback until he comes off clean or admits he was cheating the giveaway.

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February 12, 2016, 10:58:10 AM
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Until you establish that synthbot was indeed his alt, don't expect any help from DT members. Might have been a rare coincidence after all, that someone guessed a number and had something to do IRL.
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February 12, 2016, 11:02:16 AM
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Until you establish that synthbot was indeed his alt, don't expect any help from DT members. Might have been a rare coincidence after all, that someone guessed a number and had something to do IRL.
Yes,that's why I made the thread in Reputation and not in Scam accusations.Yes there could be a coincidence but unless the user comes off clean by justifying the giveaway's winner and showing the transactions proof I doubt any of it would makes sense.

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February 12, 2016, 11:18:06 AM
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EDIT : When questioned about his give away's like this
Please note:
1.The last giveaway has not being paid yet and it was no where close to successful. Check the comments from the reputable members here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359803.200

2.This user has probably gave the winnings to his own alt account.However the proof of the payments have not shown yet.

3.He is just trying to promote his website.I'm sure he will be tagged soon enough.Already has some negative feedbacks.

4.If you participate in the giveaway's,the chances are you will never win because he already has a bunch of alternate accounts on the forum [check his meta section post] to win his own giveaway's.

and this
How about you prepare the number and post it here encrypted with a Secret Key in a site like this

http://www.freeformatter.com/hmac-generator.html#ad-output

and after you announce the winner you post the winning number and the Secret Key and everyone can confirm the number was decided from the start of the game and not faked or anything.

This user cancelled his giveaway in that thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1361848.0 and started a new one (linked in the OP).

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February 12, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
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Until you establish that synthbot was indeed his alt, don't expect any help from DT members. Might have been a rare coincidence after all, that someone guessed a number and had something to do IRL.
Yes,that's why I made the thread in Reputation and not in Scam accusations.Yes there could be a coincidence but unless the user comes off clean by justifying the giveaway's winner and showing the transactions proof I doubt any of it would makes sense.

Smells really bad, tagged.

Some archives:

https://archive.is/PJwHS (closed thread)
https://archive.is/F2Qxh (2nd thread, still running)

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Smells really bad, tagged.

Some archives:

https://archive.is/PJwHS (closed thread)
https://archive.is/F2Qxh (2nd thread, still running)


Thanks a lot sho! I should have archived his reply on this thread too!Anyway hope he replies here soon.

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February 12, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
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Almost certainly a scam. He's been spamming his ref links everywhere so doubt he's just going to give away $100 to a Johnny Randomer. Probably just trying to rank up some of his accounts in the process as well.

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February 12, 2016, 01:36:20 PM
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" I felt I had to issue a warning for the community and left you a negative rating"
I have not wronged anyone, i have not scammed or cheated anyone.

"unless you paid out the first giveaway in which case I would prefer a PM so I can remove the rating ASAP."

The person has not even logged on what am i suppose to do?
This is complete utter nonesense, What because i didn't pay someone who is NOT online to collect their payment i will be punished?

Because others are paranoid you take it upon yourself to bully me? And have the audacity to essentially try to threaten me to pay someone who i CANNOT pay?

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

I am getting a negative reputation based off of speculation or perhaps your friends with Joel_Jantsen or yahoo62278
This is unfair and unproffessional.
I request that you remove my negative rep immediatly.



Sho is the last person who would give an unfair/undeserved feedback. There is a thing called Common sense you know, and you not responding to any comments that would make it 'fair'er is only adding to the shadiness.
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February 12, 2016, 01:50:27 PM
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Paying them wouldn't matter anyway when it's likely your alt. If the draws aren't done in a verifiably fair way then it's only natural to assume that you're just going to pay an alt to get out of actually shelling out. You're not the first person who has done this and you won't be the last but making the draw fair and removing the likelihood of you cheating would remove any doubts.

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February 12, 2016, 01:59:48 PM
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That's all it is, is speculation.
You have no proof of me doing anything wrong and i am punishd based off your own bias opinion?
I guess it does not matter you guys have locked in your neg rep and don't care what i have to say.
Nothing i say will change your thoughts.

i just want to reiterate and state again that i have not wronged anyone or broken any rules and i am being punished for nothing, this alone is harmful to the community as a whole.

Trust system is not a trade-based system, anyone is free to neg anyone , one likes. Also you have (potentially) wronged the people who participated in your giveaway, which displays a certain amount of 'un'trustworthiness that you will display in any future trades/deals.
Show you aren't going to do the same in the current giveaway(considering the options others have given), and sig campaign(escrow) and the shorena will highly likely reconsider the feedback
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February 12, 2016, 02:19:56 PM
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Bullied for "potentially" wronging people.
Bullied into using Escrow
Ahh yes i see rep is not Moderator based now that is why poor judgement was used
Fair enough i guess thats the way it's set up


Welcome to the forum where shady activities needs to get more attention Smiley
Signature campaign without even providing a proof that you do have the funds to pay-up the participants and you don't even want to use an escrow to instill some good faith into your website.

You don't pay enough.
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February 12, 2016, 02:30:20 PM
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Paying them wouldn't matter anyway when it's likely your alt. If the draws aren't done in a verifiably fair way then it's only natural to assume that you're just going to pay an alt to get out of actually shelling out. You're not the first person who has done this and you won't be the last but making the draw fair and removing the likelihood of you cheating would remove any doubts.
That's all it is, is speculation.
You have no proof of me doing anything wrong and i am punishd based off your own bias opinion?
I guess it does not matter you guys have locked in your neg rep and don't care what i have to say.
Nothing i say will change your thoughts.

i just want to reiterate and state again that i have not wronged anyone or broken any rules and i am being punished for nothing, this alone is harmful to the community as a whole.


What's harmful to the community is scammers so people leave feedback when appropriate and in your case it's appropriate until you prove otherwise and people are rightly suspicious. When something looks too good to be true it likely is. At the moment it looks like you've just created a fake giveaway for free promotion. If so, then that's scammy. If you're happy to give away a couple hundred dollars to complete strangers you shouldn't have any issue with making the draw fair and likely uncheatable. I doubt you're interested in that though for obvious reasons.

Edit. This guy is lying. It is his alt.

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February 12, 2016, 03:27:47 PM
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@hilarious can you reveal why you think so or is it based on IPs?

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February 12, 2016, 05:40:46 PM
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Paying them wouldn't matter anyway when it's likely your alt. If the draws aren't done in a verifiably fair way then it's only natural to assume that you're just going to pay an alt to get out of actually shelling out. You're not the first person who has done this and you won't be the last but making the draw fair and removing the likelihood of you cheating would remove any doubts.
i like your comment mate..we need to be very careful from this types off things.i want to thank those members who collect this info and share with us.you guys realy doing a great job and prevent this forum from  cheaters..keep up the good works
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February 13, 2016, 04:57:49 AM
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yellowcat1771 will get banned soon from this forum since he is continuously trolling everywhere.

Trolling is not allowed here.
You must go through the rules here before initiating something.

Another canadian youngster gone bad. Maybe you should have done a OCSP instead of collecting failed domains redirecting to porn for a few redirect cents.

Cant agree more.

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