How about Vanilla coin

[YAdaminer]

There is no problem. john-conner doesn't understand how computers work.

Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works.

He invented comput0rs with his BFF Eduardo Decastro. They still hang around bitcointalk threads together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_D3VFfhvs4
 

[generalizethis]

There is no problem. john-conner doesn't understand how computers work.

Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works.

Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works.

Do they work like you are thinking...
...or you think like when you drinking
...do you feel your brain is shrinking
...you don't even know you thinking
...thinking damage your brain cells
...you should think before you bells

John Connor "invented" vanilla coin
which is original as the name
(he gave himself and the coin),
but most can see the code's the same
as another coin we've found
to be original and innovative
with a Dev who's well known
through the power his creation.
Now Connor's shills are betting stupid
people will buy their heavy bags
of fool's gold and overly vapid
arguments of jealous Devs--
Now Smooth stands a Terminator
to this wimpy-kid impersonator.

[YAdaminer]

There is no problem. john-conner doesn't understand how computers work.

Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works.

Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works.

Do they work like you are thinking...
...or you think like when you drinking
...do you feel your brain is shrinking
...you don't even know you thinking
...thinking damage your brain cells
...you should think before you bells

John Connor "invented" vanilla coin
which is original as the name
(he gave himself and the coin),
but most can see the code's the same
as another coin we've found
to be original and innovative
with a Dev who's well known
through the power his creation.
Now Connor's shills are betting stupid
people will buy their heavy bags
of fool's gold and overly vapid
arguments of jealous Devs--
Now Smooth stands a Terminator
to this wimpy-kid impersonator.

Well, try again, I know you can do better.

[generalizethis]

There is no problem. john-conner doesn't understand how computers work.

Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works.

Mighty o mighty smooth please tell us how computer works.

Do they work like you are thinking...
...or you think like when you drinking
...do you feel your brain is shrinking
...you don't even know you thinking
...thinking damage your brain cells
...you should think before you bells

John Connor "invented" vanilla coin
which is original as the name
(he gave himself and the coin),
but most can see the code's the same
as another coin we've found
to be original and innovative
with a Dev who's well known
through the power his creation.
Now Connor's shills are betting stupid
people will buy their heavy bags
of fool's gold and overly vapid
arguments of jealous Devs--
Now Smooth stands a Terminator
to this wimpy-kid impersonator.

Well, try again, I know you can do better.

Oh I can, but the subject matter is pretty juvenile.

If it makes one non-vanilla shill laugh, mission accomplished.

[YAdaminer]

If it makes one non-vanilla shill laugh, mission accomplished.

Well, finally one thing I can agree with.

edit

btw, why are you guys so frustrated, aggressive and focused on what others do, are you feeling threatened or what?

[hughbt]

There is no point in arguing with those idiots since they have a clear conflict of interest and they'll say anything to harm the reputation of this project.
Up till now Poloniex is the only independent, trustful party which reviewed the code. They gave a positive opinion about it and allowed it to be the only 1conf coin besides bitcoin.


Who do you trust? People who are in danger of losing a lot of money if this project succeds or Poloniex who has nothing to gain(and actually can lose reputation and money by adding flawed cryptocurrency)? (Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question) This should really end this pointless discussion.

[bitworldfun]

There is no point in arguing with those idiots since they have a clear conflict of interest and they'll say anything to harm the reputation of this project.
Up till now Poloniex is the only independent, trustful party which reviewed the code. They gave a positive opinion about it and allowed it to be the only 1conf coin besides bitcoin.


Who do you trust? People who are in danger of losing a lot of money if this project succeds or Poloniex who has nothing to gain(and actually can lose reputation and money by adding flawed cryptocurrency)? (Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question) This should really end this pointless discussion.

yep.  Once again another thread has devolved into circuitous uselessness of a few supporters vs the XMR ratpack...  thanks guys for reminding me that bitcointalk is no longer the place to discuss ideas.

[davedx]

this is a conversation about VNL, and whether or not one should consider it as a legitimate project.  

I don't consider VNL a legitimate project, because the dev uses stolen (ie unattributed) BTC code and when caught refused to do the right thing.

Where is the peer-reviewed cryptanalysis proving VNL's security is solid?

Is there a bug bounty, so Shen may be rewarded if he deigns to he come over here and teach you why VNL is broken?

Or is VNL too hard for anyone but JC to work on, since only he knows how the code he stole was munged in order to obscure its origin?

Another illegitimate detail of VNC is the fact its [ANN] thread is not only self-moderated, but locked.  Talk about your North Korean sensor ships!   

An "illegitimate detail" is you can't stand people calling you a cunt. Cunt.

[bitworldfun]

..... where do you fucking people come from?

I am starting to fully understand why John wanted to move to other forums rather than be here.

[YAdaminer]

..... where do you fucking people come from?

I am starting to fully understand why John wanted to move to other forums rather than be here.

What is it, hangover?
What did you expect here, decent conversation with XMR shills?
LOL

[bitcoin carpenter]

Yes.

Don't forget to join the conversation at vanillacoin.net to learn more about what is going on with vanillacoin


Help us make a coin and community worth spreading.

[jimlite]

Hmm, I just don't get this. Do two people from the VNL team go to XMR everyday and FUD their threads? No one from VNL constantly bashes XMR for no reason.  Why are Icebreaker and Smooth the alt coin police? And even if they are the alt coin police, their are about 239 other alts that are complete shit clones from 12 year old copy paste "devs". So why not go bother them instead of an OBVIOUSLY competent dev such as John-Connor.  Maybe he doesn't do everything by the book or acknowledge anonymous invisible devs like Satoshi, but no one can say he hasn't pumped out more code and features than just about any dev. Just check his github.  VNL has a lot of potential in many areas to improve crypto. Why not just leave the guy alone already?  Bill Gates and Steve Jobs fought and annoyed the hell out of each other for years, but it still didn't change the fact that they BOTH changed computers and our lives forever. And didn't one of them "steal" icons or mouse from Xerox or IBM or some shit? Code is redundant in crypto, for some basic functions. If 99.99% of your code is original and 0.01% is the same as another coin, it is NOT ripped off.  I've seen video games like Mad Max which is 99.9% same code as Batman Arkham, yet no one is going ballistic over that.  Seriously drop this shit. I mean you are typing to me with 1's and 0's, stop ripping off 1's and 0's from Turing, credit him for inventing the computer every time you type Icebreaker.

[l8orre]

Hmm, I just don't get this... their are about 239 other alts that are complete shit clones from 12 year old copy paste "devs". So why not go bother them instead of an OBVIOUSLY competent dev such as John-Connor.  

because they don't employ high volume pump groups for their premined and backdoor ridden flea bags like VNL does

Maybe he doesn't do everything by the book or acknowledge anonymous invisible devs like Satoshi, but no one can say he hasn't pumped out more code and features than just about any dev.

yes and maybe he also sits on a $hitload of premine to dump on suckers and morons like youself, but obviously you don't care because you like being shat upon  
- or you are part of the pump group and hope you can scavenge a few crumbs, in which case I'd like to call you 'dungbeetle'

also, by insinuating that your boss is a greater coder than Satoshi because the latters identity is unknown just shows your stupidity

Just check his github.  VNL has a lot of potential in many areas to improve crypto. Why not just leave the guy alone already?  Bill Gates and Steve Jobs fought and annoyed the hell out of each other for years, but it still didn't change the fact that they BOTH changed computers and our lives forever.

no, your poster boy is not on par with those guys. and no, he is not a poor little feller that deserves to be left alone to continue his vile exercises in depravity,
because he is a thieving lying piece of $hit scumbag that is out to harm all crypto in order to enrich himself.

And didn't one of them "steal" icons or mouse from Xerox or IBM or some shit?

no, that is not an excuse to unleash premined and backdoor ridden fleabags onto the crypto market

Code is redundant in crypto, for some basic functions. If 99.99% of your code is original and 0.01% is the same as another coin, it is NOT ripped off.  I've seen video games like Mad Max which is 99.9% same code as Batman Arkham, yet no one is going ballistic over that.  Seriously drop this shit. I mean you are typing to me with 1's and 0's, stop ripping off 1's and 0's from Turing, credit him for inventing the computer every time you type Icebreaker.

CODE BEING 'FREE' COMES WITH THE RIGHT TO FREELY USE IT AND DISTRIBUTE IT AND HENCE ALSO EXPLICITLY WITH THE OBLIGATION TO NOT STRIP OFF THE ATTRIBUTION AND USE A TOOL TO OBFUSCATE IT AND CLAIM THAT YOU INVENTED IT!

That's like stealing research results and publishing it under your name. And it also guarantees more nefarious behaviour - like premine and backdoors.

[jimlite]

The coin and code has been out for over a year. There is no backdoor. Where is your proof for this claim? Most malware wallets are found and exposed within 5 minutes to a few hours after a new coin/wallet launches, NOT a year later. It has proven safe over the test of time so far. And I never said he was a better coder than Satoshi, but that he is certainly a better coder than the other 239 shit clones out there now. And I also don't know of any pump group that is involved with VNL, I surely am not in a pump group. But as with any coin I suppose their could be one, though the price is really quite stable unlike EXP or ETH which were surely pumped recently. There was also no premine, so you really need to get your facts straight.

[traumschiff]

To answer your points:

- You claimed that VNL has a backdoor

Proof? Of course you have none.

- That VNL has hired pumpgroups

Every coin has pumpgroups working on it, no one hired them here, they work for their own good. Else if you have proof show it.

- That VNL is premined

I'm mining since the first minute and it's not. Blockchain is open for everyone to view.

- That VNL has stolen code

This was answered several times. 99.9% of the code is brand new and unique, the base code is derived from PPC while the network communication protocol is brand new and unique. Good luck with going to curt with this case.



To sum up your comments, it's 100% bullshit with no proof backing it up. Sadly people like you manage to pass the autism filter on this forum called "registration", it should really be hardened a bit.

[TPTB_need_war]

- That VNL is premined

I'm mining since the first minute and it's not

Thanks for confirming it is premined.

No adoption users are mining VNL. That will be the difference between all the coins that came before mine.

[YAdaminer]

- That VNL is premined

I'm mining since the first minute and it's not

Thanks for confirming it is premined.

No adoption users are mining VNL. That will be the difference between all the coins that came before mine.

I'm mining it and I didnt mine it from first minute so, what else do you 'know'.

[traumschiff]

- That VNL is premined

I'm mining since the first minute and it's not

Thanks for confirming it is premined.

No adoption users are mining VNL. That will be the difference between all the coins that came before mine.

It's free to mine for everyone since the first minute.

Premine by definition is something that got mined in the genesis block by the developer for various purposes. The word is 100% used for this definition on this forum.

Stop being a monkey and go out running instead, it better for your health.

That will be the difference between all the coins that came before mine.

Another vaporware announcement (advertisement) brought to you by TPTB (just like in the past year, every month).

[TPTB_need_war]

It's free to mine for everyone since the first minute.

Premine by definition is something that got mined in the genesis block by the developer for various purposes. The word is 100% used for this definition on this forum.

It is not being mined by the users, thus it will never be a decentralized coin with maximum network effects.

I am changing the definition to a more correct one.

[traumschiff]

It's free to mine for everyone since the first minute.

Premine by definition is something that got mined in the genesis block by the developer for various purposes. The word is 100% used for this definition on this forum.

It is not being mined by the users, thus it will never be a decentralized coin with maximum network effects.

I am changing the definition to a more correct one.

You are not the authority that can change a word's definition which is used by thousands of people on this forum.

You can already pay for VPN and encrypted mail services with VNL and some users have already did so, meaning they just became end-users while being early miners.

You can twist this all you want in your delusional and sick brain (body), but it's pointless because no one cares.