negative feedback abuse

[nor9865]

can a user, for instance xetsr double his negative feedback about the same subject from his account and alts on a single user with a difference of more than 4months?

xetsr 140: -0 / +14   2016-02-02   0.00000000      Scammer who leaves positive feedback on his alts. I highly recommend not dealing with this member at all.

Lutpin 1: -1 / +4   2016-01-01   0.00000000   Reference   Left positive feedback with this account to his alt account Netpyder (u=458703).
In difference to his retaliation feedback, this one is based on facts.
1MkRJqUgQ2UkKNwNV88nhaKXN1vRpwQv1z connects both account here (https://archive.is/qTwr1) and here (https://archive.is/GQaGM).

xetsr 140: -0 / +14   2015-10-14   0.00000000      Alt of Netpyder, leaves himself feedback from alts. 1MkRJqUgQ2UkKNwNV88nhaKXN1vRpwQv1z used here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066266.0#msg11428711 - https://archive.is/qTwr1 if deleted) and on his profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59502 (https://archive.is/GQaGM - if deleted)

isnt that an abuse?

and if needed i can prove that me and netpyder are not connected at all.

i recently did a deal with coinmonster, and on netpyder feedback thing i saw him had a deal with shdvb.

i invite ANY moderator to ask both coinmonster and shdvb to which FirstName and Last Name as well as country that the deal was made

xetsr who never has time when he will be proven wrong but has time to double his negative feedback. since you are a trusted person, i invite you to contact coinmonster and shdvb to cross check this or would you come with the lame excuse that you dont have time again?

[zazarb]

I just want to remind,
that it does not affect second feedback  from same person to you overall trust score.

[Lutpin]

can a user, for instance xetsr double his negative feedback about the same subject from his account and alts on a single user with a difference of more than 4months?

So tell me again, why am I an alt of xetsr?
I've been called alt of several guys in the past (mostly mexxer, but there have been others in the mix also), but so far none of those guys came up with any reason other than "both left me a neg".
On another note, when you open a thread about some person (or in this case 2 persons), it would be appreciated if you PM those persons.

and if needed i can prove that me and netpyder are not connected at all.

That's funny, because my feedback proofs quite the opposite.

The 1MkRJqUgQ2UkKNwNV88nhaKXN1vRpwQv1z address is used by both your accounts.

https://archive.is/qTwr1#selection-549.22-549.56
https://archive.is/GQaGM#selection-489.17-493.34

[dogie]

Should be be allowed? No.
Is it done? Yes.
Is anything done about it? No.

[xetsr]

Unlike you, I have no alts. Feedback wont be removed.

[nor9865]

Should be be allowed? No.
Is it done? Yes.
Is anything done about it? No.

i realised that

xetsr feedback didnt bother me until he doubled it and lutpin deleted his past negative on my profile and added a new one very very recently and both neg is about a topic dead long time back. why revive the dead,i dont know and both would not have a proper explanation. moreover, i showed a way to prove that me and netpyder are not the same person, but seems like both person dont want to go to that line for the simple reason they will be proven wrong.

resulting is abuse of DT

[Lutpin]

the reason for this address i believe is none of your business. -snip-

Then, I guess we're done here.

Unlike you, I have no alts. Feedback wont be removed.

xetsr already stated that his feedback will stay, so will mine.
(You can retaliate that as many times as you want. Calling me an alt of mexxer-2, xetsr or who else you imagine me to be connected with.)

xetsr feedback didnt bother me until he doubled it and lutpin deleted his past negative on my profile and added a new one very very recently and both neg is about a topic dead long time back. why revive the dead,i dont know and both would not have a proper explanation.

Your positive trust to your alt stands till today. That topic is not dead. Hence the negatives say aswell.

moreover, i showed a way to prove that me and netpyder are not the same person, but seems like both person dont want to go to that line for the simple reason they will be proven wrong.

How about you "go that way" and then we remove the feedback once proven wrong?! You're the one that wants to prove something, not we.

resulting is abuse of DT

Leaving feedback is no "abuse of DT". It's what the trust system has been designed for, hence we do it.


Also, nice double post. Next time, just use the edit button.

[nor9865]

the reason for this address i believe is none of your business. -snip-

Then, I guess we're done here.

Unlike you, I have no alts. Feedback wont be removed.

xetsr already stated that his feedback will stay, so will mine.
(You can retaliate that as many times as you want. Calling me an alt of mexxer-2, xetsr or who else you imagine me to be connected with.)

xetsr feedback didnt bother me until he doubled it and lutpin deleted his past negative on my profile and added a new one very very recently and both neg is about a topic dead long time back. why revive the dead,i dont know and both would not have a proper explanation.

Your positive trust to your alt stands till today. That topic is not dead. Hence the negatives say aswell.

moreover, i showed a way to prove that me and netpyder are not the same person, but seems like both person dont want to go to that line for the simple reason they will be proven wrong.

How about you "go that way" and then we remove the feedback once proven wrong?! You're the one that wants to prove something, not we.

resulting is abuse of DT

Leaving feedback is no "abuse of DT". It's what the trust system has been designed for, hence we do it.

i invite coinmonster to put my name in public and shdvb can crosscheck with that of netpyder. that would make a proper result.

[Quickseller]

It does not matter that xetsr left you "duplicate" negative ratings as him doing so is going to have zero effect on your trust score.

If it were me, I would consolidate both ratings to say what the first one said, and then add that 'it is not recommended dealing with this person at all' as he put on his second rating.

Either way, IMO complaining about a single duplicate rating on your trust profile is really splitting hairs.

[nor9865]

Scammer

i invite anyone who claims i scammed them with proof to come foreward.

who leaves positive feedback on his alts

i dont have alts and i will make things right about this, i will be messaging coinmonster to dox my name in public and make shdvb confirm if the name is the same as that of netpyder

I highly recommend not dealing with this member at all.

why? i would like to have this answer from xetsr. because as far as i know i never scammed anyone, i ran the risk of getting scammed a few times but thats okay for me, i sorted it out.

[nor9865]

IMO complaining about a single duplicate rating on your trust profile is really splitting hairs.

this kind of comment suits only people like you who scam users with alt accounts and self escrowing deals, so i think you should sit there for a moment

[Quickseller]

IMO complaining about a single duplicate rating on your trust profile is really splitting hairs.

this kind of comment suits only people like you who scam users with alt accounts and self escrowing deals, so i think you should sit there for a moment

No, not really. It has zero effect on you, so you are just complaining to complain

[xetsr]

Actually, the double feedback was my fault and I've updated it. Either you're a alt of Netpyder or you bought a account with hero status and fake feedback to start trading, which IMO is shady enough for negative feedback.

Now I know buying forum accounts is not against the rules but that doesn't mean you won't get negative feedback when you buy a account with fake feedback and then start trading. This is shady enough for me to leave negative feedback and I'm sure others will agree.

I can see the motherfucker, forum cop / lawyer, sjw, scam buster posts coming... but you might as well save your breath. I'm not like the others, I'm actually pretty active here buying and selling and have been for awhile now. I don't go around looking for scams, alts and etc but you fuckers like to waste people's time and money and this is my way of saying fuck you.

xetsr who never has time when he will be proven wrong but has time to double his negative feedback. since you are a trusted person, i invite you to contact coinmonster and shdvb to cross check this Smiley or would you come with the lame excuse that you dont have time again?

What more proof do you want? All the accounts were using the same BTC address among other things  

EDIT:
I'm on default trust list under Tomatocage and Blazed. I suggest you contact both and request them to remove me from their default trust.

[whywefight]

I don't go around looking for scams, alts and etc but you fuckers like to waste people's time and money and this is my way of saying fuck you.

I love xetsr

[nor9865]

I don't go around looking for scams, alts and etc but you fuckers like to waste people's time and money and this is my way of saying fuck you.

show me one person who lost money with me and i will ask everyone to spam my negative feedback until then fuck you.. SIR

[xetsr]

I don't go around looking for scams, alts and etc but you fuckers like to waste people's time and money and this is my way of saying fuck you.

show me one person who lost money with me and i will ask everyone to spam my negative feedback until then fuck you.. SIR

Well then, I guess we are done here

[Heutenamos]

isnt that an abuse?

It takes a lot more time and effort than a forum discussion to accuse/prove anyone and i don't think that would be appropriate for the victims of the scam.The judgmental decisions might save the future victims and also the time.

I could post addresses of all the level1 players but that wont make me an alt of them ? or will that make all the DT1 alt's of one person ? Even the blockchain proof is not completely solid because of shared wallets and stuff.

It requires a lot of funds and a professional team of detectives with more then better skills in crypto and bitcoin.But because you are not tied in a cell you might attempt more and more scams ,therefore there is a protocol or a boilerplate to NEG TAG people and it might go wrong sometimes.But that doesn't means you should ignore the positiviy behind it.

show me one person who lost money with me

Stop acting QS.I can assure you that if you buy a GREEN account and enroll it in SIG just to get some higher rates then no one will NEG TAG you but a neutral and on the other hand if you buy the same account and start offering services like xetsr says,then do you seriously want me to explain what is shady here ?

fake feedback and then start trading. This is shady enough for me to leave negative feedback and I'm sure others will agree.

Do you mean mean SELF TRADING and giving feedback's to alt's while being on DT with the other one ? OH YES !! that is shady enough and others will agree with that too.

[Alternate_Coin]

Unlike you, I have no alts. Feedback wont be removed.

You're a cunt. You leave unwarranted feedback. Quickseller is your alt.

[Lutpin]

You're a cunt. You leave unwarranted feedback. Quickseller is your alt.

Speaking about you being an alt of AllGoodsBTC and others? Let's see.
You placed the following bet:

Philly +2.5 1st q.. Money
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1FPqNLLCiweGFqCvxwjikhXpC6ktFgg7B5

The txid according to DirectBet is 8f46b79eb6c11ff36a8655893152369d87c9af9839a53b8ea7494509f466a00b.
The address that tx was broadcasted from is 1CvgpjjQoRb56qBVDWQYvnPsUwLUU5yHVn.
That address comes up in the scam accusation against AllGoodsBTC (who is a known alt of Electronics4BTC) here.

[xetsr]

Unlike you, I have no alts. Feedback wont be removed.

You're a cunt. You leave unwarranted feedback. Quickseller is your alt.

Who you trying to fool?