Bitcoin needs sex workers

[ctlaltdefeat]

I've been actually kind of thinking instead of sex workers needing bitcoin... That maybe bitcoin needs more sex workers.

The number one reason why smart, revolutionary people I know don't use bitcoin isn't because the tech is bad, it's because the social dynamics are. Progressive people don't want to take shit from privileged folx who roll around not being aware of that. Most of my interests and hobbies include people who can have layered conversations around intersectionality *except* for my crypto circles. It's amazingly behind the times in that. Literally whole forums full of $@#%^%...

Sex work is often a place where marginalized people get cash when the system messes with them. It's easy access and you always have your body. Part of being a marginalized person includes reading social situations around you to keep yourself safe. You learn to attune yourself, so a lot of sex workers are super emotionally intelligent not just because it helps with the job but it's a serious survival skill.

Privileged folk on the other hand don't have to develop this because their privilege shields them from a lot of day to day turbulence in different areas (depending on what their identities & experiences are.) I think a lot of people involved in bitcoin could learn from these skills.

A lot of creativity and tenacity happens on the fringes, and that includes people of colour, people who are transgender, people who are sex workers. And if you've been paying attention to fintech, you might even have noticed a few stirrings of a coming storm not just from bitcoin but a different wind.

People in bitcoin and other decentralized tech will have to make space for these identities and learn how these social dynamics affect social adoption.

why must be sex workers?i disagree with this,some people or countries not legalling sex,i mean prostution,and how bitcoin can get in to this if not all people and country not support it.

[Cass LeChat]

You may have some points here but I'm going to disagree with you on two things. Firstly, sex workers (online one's) need BTCitcoin more than the other way since it's the only way for them to cover their true identity. Secondly this only could apply for those who work in front of cameras only and not those who work as real sex workers (in person) since they will go for cash (any time of the day all day long) mainly to get rid of the hassle of exchanging it to cash in the end.

Sex workers have lots of methods for getting their cash online and I think Bitcoin needs to show them it's worth it for them to change over. It's definitely a far superiors system than the credit one used for a lot of cam sites but how a sex worker deals with their personal identity depends on the worker and isn't enough to base your argument on. But you should know that many sex workers bridge both online and offline markets.

Frankly, sex workers will always find a way to get their money, including one of the many altcoins or second generation protocols that are popping up. If bitcoin doesn't seem appealing for them, they may bypass it and skip right to Ethereum or something else.

And your second point is weird because it contradicts your first one and I mean honestly... that could be said about any business

[Cass LeChat]

The number one reason why smart, revolutionary people I know don't use bitcoin isn't because the tech is bad, it's because the social dynamics are.

How smart and revolutionary can they be if they reject technology based on "social dynamics?" That's like refusing to get a flying car because too many jocks have one - in other words, the opposite of smart and revolutionary.

Tell these precious snowflakes that they can run the technology without having to interact with the community.

Because they're smart enough to take their genius to converse with people who can have an interesting conversation. Instead of flying around the shitty car that the jocks bought, they'll build their own better one with more intelligent sophisticated people.

It's the community that should be more worried about attracting them. Sex workers are coders and programmers and fintech geniuses as well as sex workers.

[Cass LeChat]

I've been actually kind of thinking instead of sex workers needing bitcoin... That maybe bitcoin needs more sex workers.

The number one reason why smart, revolutionary people I know don't use bitcoin isn't because the tech is bad, it's because the social dynamics are. Progressive people don't want to take shit from privileged folx who roll around not being aware of that. Most of my interests and hobbies include people who can have layered conversations around intersectionality *except* for my crypto circles. It's amazingly behind the times in that. Literally whole forums full of $@#%^%...

Sex work is often a place where marginalized people get cash when the system messes with them. It's easy access and you always have your body. Part of being a marginalized person includes reading social situations around you to keep yourself safe. You learn to attune yourself, so a lot of sex workers are super emotionally intelligent not just because it helps with the job but it's a serious survival skill.

Privileged folk on the other hand don't have to develop this because their privilege shields them from a lot of day to day turbulence in different areas (depending on what their identities & experiences are.) I think a lot of people involved in bitcoin could learn from these skills.

A lot of creativity and tenacity happens on the fringes, and that includes people of colour, people who are transgender, people who are sex workers. And if you've been paying attention to fintech, you might even have noticed a few stirrings of a coming storm not just from bitcoin but a different wind.

People in bitcoin and other decentralized tech will have to make space for these identities and learn how these social dynamics affect social adoption.

why must be sex workers?i disagree with this,some people or countries not legalling sex,i mean prostution,and how bitcoin can get in to this if not all people and country not support it.

This is a pointless point about your unimportant feelings about sex work. Unless you're a sex worker, I don't care what you think about the social dynamics of its legality and it's weird of you to imply that bitcoin can only be used where everyone agrees with something, which kinda ignores the point of decentralization. Go play in a non-sex work thread of you're uncomfortable.

[knightkon]

I like the idea of more porn sites accepting BTC.  This would make it easier for some people to get on these sites.  This would also bring more business to the site for the ones accepting BTC, for why use a CC when you can pay anonymously.  This would prevent issues like what happened last year with Ashley Madison

[iv4n]

Bitcoin needs workers in every segment, not just in sex industry. You have a good idea and I support it. I thinking about same thing and there is one question, where to find this kind of work? With fiat is hard also to find that kind of work, wirh bitcoins even harder. I believe sex workers need a place where everyone can offer something, to make some place where will be easy for workers and customers to find what they search for.

Of course something like that is illegal in many countries. Someone need to find where will be suitable for that to open.

[Boosterious]

Not sure about bitcoin need sex workers or sex workers need bitcoin,i'm not wondering if this happen,i mean bitcoin related with sex,all payment and currency will related with this mainstream need.

[Mumbeeptind1963]

They need to make sure that transaction is accepted with at least 3 to 6 confirmations... That's a long time of 30 to 60 minutes. Can the customers wait that long?

Haha Lol why it needs 3-6 confirmation the customers cant wait that long,
1 confirmation only so that they can start their business as soon as possible,
Lol they were need sex but they want to wait for that long haha, for me i cant wait that long.

[romero121]

They need to make sure that transaction is accepted with at least 3 to 6 confirmations... That's a long time of 30 to 60 minutes. Can the customers wait that long?

Haha Lol why it needs 3-6 confirmation the customers cant wait that long,
1 confirmation only so that they can start their business as soon as possible,
Lol they were need sex but they want to wait for that long haha, for me i cant wait that long.

Yeah truly confirmation matters a lot. I think rather than making sex workers use bitcoin we can try implementation on porn sites which gives better result. Already few websites have been launched for porn.

[AliceGored]

With large Lightening Network Hubs, sex worker will not wait for confirmation, will be instant. Even has a guy named Poon working on it for release this summer.

[XodhvdjI]

No, it really doesn't. This forum is probably a contrast to the title but either way to be serious with you, it does not. We need to make the currency look respectable and porn is not going to do it.

[AliceGored]

With large Lightening Network Hubs, sex worker will not wait for confirmation, will be instant. Even has a guy named Poon working on it for release this summer.

No, it really doesn't. This forum is probably a contrast to the title but either way to be serious with you, it does not. We need to make the currency look respectable and porn is not going to do it.

* AliceGored said Poon, not Porn, don't get it twisted.

Anonymouse and uncenshorable + fully decentralised. This are BitCoin strength.

[Junko]

If the sex worker is a freelancer or has a pimp, yeah, they would have to deal with confirmations or use a third party processor.

If the sex worker works for an escort agency or a brothel/sex club, the agency/brothel/sex club or whatever can use a system whereby the client/John creates an account with them and deposits bitcoin in advance and then whenever he uses their services, they can debit the amount from his account. You are free to withdraw or add funds as needed.

[XodhvdjI]

With large Lightening Network Hubs, sex worker will not wait for confirmation, will be instant. Even has a guy named Poon working on it for release this summer.

No, it really doesn't. This forum is probably a contrast to the title but either way to be serious with you, it does not. We need to make the currency look respectable and porn is not going to do it.

* AliceGored said Poon, not Porn, don't get it twisted.

Anonymouse and uncenshorable + fully decentralised. This are BitCoin strength.

It doesn't matter if it's anonymous or not. We know what this currency's reputation it. We shouldn't do things like this to make it worse.

[noormcs5]

You may have some points here but I'm going to disagree with you on two things. Firstly, sex workers (online one's) need BTCitcoin more than the other way since it's the only way for them to cover their true identity. Secondly this only could apply for those who work in front of cameras only and not those who work as real sex workers (in person) since they will go for cash (any time of the day all day long) mainly to get rid of the hassle of exchanging it to cash in the end.

That's why they (real sex workers) must use bitpay, bitpay can exchange bitcoin to fiat & send it to their banks account automatically, they just have go to bank & withdraw their money.
So, there's no reason they can't accept bitcoin, expect they really don't want anyone know his/her job.

Bitcoins trasncations cannot be traced and its best for the  Workers involved in such tasks

[mki8]

i think we should all make a combined effort to pay a sex worker with bitcoin
(after showing them how to accept bitcoin)

might be worth adding this to my world bitcoin pizza day May 22nd topic

[salmanahmedone]

It is too risky, how can it it is possible, it is really very hard to be a sex worker in bitcoin, i can't think they will get some more. instead of this bitcoin is better as it is.

[mki8]

It is too risky, how can it it is possible, it is really very hard to be a sex worker in bitcoin, i can't think they will get some more. instead of this bitcoin is better as it is.

what on earth does you comment mean ?

People will trade anything of value for services,
also do not forget many (not all) sex workers are also drug users
so once they show their dealer how to accept btc, it is even better for them.

[Kakmakr]

Hopefully these sex workers are going to use services like Coinbase, where their income can be regulated and then also give the government information for tax collection purposes. They only pay VAT on the stuff they buy and do not have to pay taxes like the rest of us. Many of them receive a income compared to a middle income household and should also help to pay some taxes.

I agree, they are smart people. They found a way, not to pay taxes. ^smile^

[avatar_kiyoshi]

Sex workers and the users needs bitcoin, they don't need to give they card identity to pay for porn/sex, otherwise bitcoin don't need sex and worker, it's need mass adopter.