Joca97 & CarlesPuyol Biggest Challenge made in Bitcointalk forum *Jar*

[CarlesPuyol]

Hello friends,
After long discussions, me and the best tipster in this forum joca97 have decided to cooperate and open a jar, with an attempt to make the highest win that were ever been here on the forum.

We will combine our knowledge and pick the best bets we can find.


- The jar will be open for the next 7 days from now until 23.2 - This exact hour.
- After 7 days, the amount that will be in the jar is the amount we play on.
- After the 1st win, each participant can choose to get out with his partial profit
- Minimum entrance is 0.02BTC
- In the end, we devide the profit: 70% for you. 30% for us 85% for you. 15% for us.


Our target is to raise at least 1BTC in this week. If we will do it, there is a bonus for you:
A bonus of 0.1BTC will be given to one random active participant if we will get to 3rd win
A bonus of additional 0.1BTC will be given to one random active participant if we will get to 4th win
(Random number will be chosen by random.org)



Examples of the profit you can make:

y put 0.02BTC
z put 0.06BTC
w put 0.08BTC
After 2 bets with odds of @2 w decides to quit. He receives 70% 85% of his partial profit - 0.272BTC
After 3 bets with odds of @2 z decides to quit. He recieives 70% 85% of his partial profit - 0.408BTC

All the bets will be exposed to you and proves will be given by photos

Dont miss the challenge of the year. Get a ticket right away.

Jar Address:  1Gs1MGYakAJDuqH1M6Hsp8Ubrab1fQLoY4

Participant list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg103rvhscwXS_FVMh2lFYwioXEfWcb_4YLaY6lLjLc/edit?usp=sharing

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[Joca97]

CarlesPuyol said it well in the first post
After couple of days of thinking we have have decided to open this jar for you guys
CarlesPuyol is a great tipster and bettor and we have started this thread togheter so we can make lots of profit for you guys !

Hope you enjoy it

Regards Joca

[panjul07]

Wow..a combination of two best tipsters in this forum is amazing. Anyway, when will be the first bet? Can I join anytime during the 7days of this jar? Lets say may I join on the 3rd day?

[Emperor Magnus Caligula]

Wow..a combination of two best tipsters in this forum is amazing. Anyway, when will be the first bet? Can I join anytime during the 7days of this jar? Lets say may I join on the 3rd day?

the jar will be open for 7 days, after that, no one will join

[CarlesPuyol]

Wow..a combination of two best tipsters in this forum is amazing. Anyway, when will be the first bet? Can I join anytime during the 7days of this jar? Lets say may I join on the 3rd day?

the jar will be open for 7 days, after that, no one will join

Exactly. And the first pick will be made after the jar closes- in 7 days.

[btcdevil]

Congratulation for the join venture and Best of Luck for the venture which you are going to start, will you be giving the bet which you are going to bet with the jar amount before match or after match. or else are you going to open a new web page and give information in that for the participants

[mtnsaa]

Wow another great idea and thread to follow, I wish you guys the best of luck. I'll try to enter but I'm so low on BTC right now that I'll have to wait for the next week I guess.

[gordonhill]

Im in...

TXID PROOF: HERE

Wallet adress : 1CixSRWyFxVLXSWr5rUgYihZG529QZQwwY

Good luck guys!!!

Cheers!! ●‿●

[Emperor Magnus Caligula]

Congratulation for the join venture and Best of Luck for the venture which you are going to start, will you be giving the bet which you are going to bet with the jar amount before match or after match. or else are you going to open a new web page and give information in that for the participants

if he is going to give the bet before the match then we could do the bet ourselves and get 100% of profit instead of 70%. I think the bet will be revealed only after settled

[CarlesPuyol]

Im in...

TXID PROOF: HERE

Wallet adress : 1CixSRWyFxVLXSWr5rUgYihZG529QZQwwY

Good luck guys!!!

Cheers!! ●‿●

Added.
Good luck 

[CarlesPuyol]

Congratulation for the join venture and Best of Luck for the venture which you are going to start, will you be giving the bet which you are going to bet with the jar amount before match or after match. or else are you going to open a new web page and give information in that for the participants

if he is going to give the bet before the match then we could do the bet ourselves and get 100% of profit instead of 70%. I think the bet will be revealed only after settled

The bet will be sent to the participants in PM

[Emperor Magnus Caligula]

Congratulation for the join venture and Best of Luck for the venture which you are going to start, will you be giving the bet which you are going to bet with the jar amount before match or after match. or else are you going to open a new web page and give information in that for the participants

if he is going to give the bet before the match then we could do the bet ourselves and get 100% of profit instead of 70%. I think the bet will be revealed only after settled

The bet will be sent to the participants in PM

Before or after the game?

[CarlesPuyol]

Congratulation for the join venture and Best of Luck for the venture which you are going to start, will you be giving the bet which you are going to bet with the jar amount before match or after match. or else are you going to open a new web page and give information in that for the participants

if he is going to give the bet before the match then we could do the bet ourselves and get 100% of profit instead of 70%. I think the bet will be revealed only after settled

The bet will be sent to the participants in PM

Before or after the game?

Before the game.

[Junko]

Great collaboration idea! I wish you both and all participants good luck!

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Awesome! Great to see you two joining forces. I know from experience over a long time now how good Joca is. CarlosPuyol has been getting better & better though, I saw his thread earlier & his stats have been improving massively.

I'm definitely going to get involved in this when I have some spare money to mess about with. Good luck to every body involved.

[DarkStar_]

Great idea for you 2 to join forces! Probably will play soon with 0.02BTC.
Taking 30% is a bit high imo, but the picks are good and they can get a good winning record. Still, 30% is too high. You should consider lowering it to 20% if many people participate in the jar.
Good luck to everyone participating!

[fullypak]

Looks like great idea and who don't have a knowledge of betting and time to check all the details can make us of this offer to get some profits. But I feel 30% cut looks slightly high and around 20% should be very attractive. Still got some time to join so I may be in later on

[aizzaku]

Goodluck with your adventure. i would have loved to participate but im all out of funds right now. Mistakes made me poor

[klf]

Goodluck with your adventure. i would have loved to participate but im all out of funds right now. Mistakes made me poor

Sorry for your losses but we all should know that, we shouldn't gamble until one become a poor. It should an hobby to play some times and the fun part.

Offer is quite attractive but service cut 30% is quite high. Good luck to all.

[brianlee01]

I'm interested to join here looks like good potential with collaboration 2 tipster in this forum. Will join soon.

[nickaizoku]

hey carles, since im failed my thread.. im gonna trust my btc to you
good luck with this jar, im gonna deposit some to your guys jar as soon i got some payment.
i have feeling this one is good tips for us here.

[ralle14]

Examples of the profit you can make:

y put 0.02BTC
z put 0.06BTC
w put 0.08BTC
After 2 bets with odds of @2 w decides to quit. He receives 70% of his partial profit - 0.224BTC
After 3 bets with odds of @2 z decides to quit. He recieives 70% of his partial profit - 0.336BTC

All the bets will be exposed to you and proves will be given by photos

Dont miss the challenge of the year. Get a ticket right away.

Jar Address:  1Gs1MGYakAJDuqH1M6Hsp8Ubrab1fQLoY4

Participant list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg103rvhscwXS_FVMh2lFYwioXEfWcb_4YLaY6lLjLc/edit?usp=sharing

im confused about the example why is z has bigger profit than w but less btc risked. Anyways ill be joining the challenge in a few days before the closing of the jar.

[Karpeles]

Examples of the profit you can make:

y put 0.02BTC
z put 0.06BTC
w put 0.08BTC
After 2 bets with odds of @2 w decides to quit. He receives 70% of his partial profit - 0.224BTC
After 3 bets with odds of @2 z decides to quit. He recieives 70% of his partial profit - 0.336BTC

All the bets will be exposed to you and proves will be given by photos

Dont miss the challenge of the year. Get a ticket right away.

Jar Address:  1Gs1MGYakAJDuqH1M6Hsp8Ubrab1fQLoY4

Participant list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg103rvhscwXS_FVMh2lFYwioXEfWcb_4YLaY6lLjLc/edit?usp=sharing

im confused about the example why is z has bigger profit than w but less btc risked. Anyways ill be joining the challenge in a few days before the closing of the jar.

w quit after 2 bets only, while w after 3.

can't say that z risked less because hit 3 in a roll is really hard

[erwin45hacked]

Your examples shows that you will be using the odds of 2 for the bets, does this mean that there is no safety parameter like a maximum bet amount and maximum odds that you will use in betting? If this is so then people have no reason to trust you and wait for days and got cut by 30% , there is a dice for people to do so if they want

[Erza]

Your examples shows that you will be using the odds of 2 for the bets, does this mean that there is no safety parameter like a maximum bet amount and maximum odds that you will use in betting? If this is so then people have no reason to trust you and wait for days and got cut by 30% , there is a dice for people to do so if they want

I think they will keep on all in everything. From the past Carles will use around 1.9x odds and there is no maximum bet because of all in everything. Now he is combining win Joca and use 2x odds to be better. And 30% is just for helping fee for some people that dont have time to gather some information about particular match. Of course there is not safe because it is gambling, there will never be safe no matter how much odds you take but with combining of them I think the winning percentage will be better

[Wendigo]

So if I understand this correctly the minimum odds will be 2.00 and you will all-in the accumulated amount several times till it's lost or people decide to take out their profits. Buying a paid pick and betting as much cash on it would theoretically yield more money than receiving 70% in the end wouldn't it? And why don't you just roll with your own bitcoins if you want the bragging rights?

[shulio]

So if I understand this correctly the minimum odds will be 2.00 and you will all-in the accumulated amount several times till it's lost or people decide to take out their profits. Buying a paid pick and betting as much cash on it would theoretically yield more money than receiving 70% in the end wouldn't it? And why don't you just roll with your own bitcoins if you want the bragging rights?

Thats what I understand as well. It will be the same as playing 2x in a dice site but you will get all the amount for yourself so there is no need to put our money in the jar. Logically thinking, why would someone be taking the risk for 2x if you guys could do it right by betting at the smaller odds to get some higher chance to win

[patt0]

If it is "all in" all the time I think it's to risky. If you were betting to achieve maximum profit during those 7 days it would be more appealing I guess.

[Shibashi Nikamoto]

Joca is not being really luck at the moment.

At least the 0.02 will works like free premium tips, at least until they lose

[shulio]

Maybe you should lower minimal entrance to 0.01 or 0.005btc 

Probably it is not about the minimum entrance fee however it is more about the odds. Betting all in for 2x odds is just crazy game, no one will want to do that unless someone is very confident that it will win however even if the reward is great enough if they win then there is still 30 % fee to both of them

[katerniko1]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

[nanonymousx]

I been following CarlesPuyol picks before and they were excellent and worked on, also having the pot supervised by two Hero members make it a decent investment in risk too, I'll wait for the next pot, Best of luck to all players here~

[rizkyhiw]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

yeppp 30% split profit way too high everyone agree, since there is no winning guarantee and minimum invest not too low , 10% are more than enough isn't it?
so if you joca & carlespuyol want to reconsider to reduce the split winning to 10% maybe? people might more interesting to join.

[srgkrgkj]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

yeppp 30% split profit way too high everyone agree, since there is no winning guarantee and minimum invest not too low , 10% are more than enough isn't it?
so if you joca & carlespuyol want to reconsider to reduce the split winning to 10% maybe? people might more interesting to join.

it depends on how big the jar gets lol if its worth 10% then y not but if the jars basically 0.1 and at the end its 0.2 it might not be worth the time and effort to get picks etc///

[CarlesPuyol]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

yeppp 30% split profit way too high everyone agree, since there is no winning guarantee and minimum invest not too low , 10% are more than enough isn't it?
so if you joca & carlespuyol want to reconsider to reduce the split winning to 10% maybe? people might more interesting to join.

We will discuss about it.

[Joca97]

Hey guys the 30% is currently big because two best tipsters on the forum have combined and a losing chance is really really small
so even if we take this much you will still be in giant plus,are picks to win are bigger then 95 % chance,we are disscusing everyday what pick we should choose in the up coming matches and how we will play,so dont worry guys the 30% is small with what you can get !!!
remember that

regards Joca

[Gianluca95]

I'm interested in invest something on this challenge. Will keep contact with Joca97 in way to invest something

[erwin45hacked]

picks to win are bigger then 95 % chance

There is no way that you can guarantee this especially if you will be playing with odds of 2. You keep on saying that you are the best however as far as I can remember you have prove nothing but losing all your money in your own challenge before afther that you have gone silent until now

[ralle14]

w quit after 2 bets only, while w after 3.

can't say that z risked less because hit 3 in a roll is really hard

Thanks for that answer seems i have misread it the other way. Getting 3  wins should be easy if they bet it straight and not in a parlay.

[BTCevo]

If it is "all in" all the time I think it's to risky. If you were betting to achieve maximum profit during those 7 days it would be more appealing I guess.

I think you are misunderstanding this. 7 days is the limit for people wants to participate in this jar not the limit on max profit. They will sure keep on betting again and again if their jar is still got money, if no one want to withdraw it, they will keep betting it because if they win they still got 30% and that is not their money so I am sure they will still continue it

[Joca97]

If it is "all in" all the time I think it's to risky. If you were betting to achieve maximum profit during those 7 days it would be more appealing I guess.

I think you are misunderstanding this. 7 days is the limit for people wants to participate in this jar not the limit on max profit. They will sure keep on betting again and again if their jar is still got money, if no one want to withdraw it, they will keep betting it because if they win they still got 30% and that is not their money so I am sure they will still continue it

Yes 7 days is the limit for waiting for the jar to get full,the betting can be done for 2 days 4 days 6 days depends on when we make the picks and if we make them for the day

[Raimonn]

I know that Joca97 and CarlesPuyol are better than me with sports betting, i saw some of their tipster post before, but there isn't any bet 100% secure to win. I want to know if you will play with 100% of the jar on every bet or you will use half or another quantity.

[cazkooo]

I want to know if you will play with 100% of the jar on every bet or you will use half or another quantity.

It seems that they will be betting with the entire jar instead of using smaller quantity of the jar. There is no way that they will be making that kind of example, that someone will be taking out its profit after just several win if they are just betting with smaller quantitiy. Thats making this challenge more risky than usual

[Joca97]

I know that Joca97 and CarlesPuyol are better than me with sports betting, i saw some of their tipster post before, but there isn't any bet 100% secure to win. I want to know if you will play with 100% of the jar on every bet or you will use half or another quantity.

well you can withdraw at anytime you want after first bet or later...

[Patatas]

Joca97 is a best tipster in the forum ideed.I would like to participate .What if  I want to skip the first week of the jar tips and join in the second week?Like is there a option where we can invest anytime just like we are able to withdraw anytime? If I win the first bet and lose the second with lesser odds,will the amounts be adjusted if I want to withdraw in the 3rd bet?

[CarlesPuyol]

Joca97 is a best tipster in the forum ideed.I would like to participate .What if  I want to skip the first week of the jar tips and join in the second week?Like is there a option where we can invest anytime just like we are able to withdraw anytime? If I win the first bet and lose the second with lesser odds,will the amounts be adjusted if I want to withdraw in the 3rd bet?

There is no entrance after the jar close.
We are doing All-ins, so if we lose the second bet, there is no 3rd bet.

[katerniko1]

Hey guys the 30% is currently big because two best tipsters on the forum have combined and a losing chance is really really small
so even if we take this much you will still be in giant plus,are picks to win are bigger then 95 % chance,we are disscusing everyday what pick we should choose in the up coming matches and how we will play,so dont worry guys the 30% is small with what you can get !!!
remember that

regards Joca

I agree you are both ok but that is still big risk, and 30% is high, with 10% you would get more money in jar and you would end up with more then taking 30% and your jar gets like .1 just my opinion.
regards.
-Katerniko1

[brianlee01]

Joca97 is a best tipster in the forum ideed.I would like to participate .What if  I want to skip the first week of the jar tips and join in the second week?Like is there a option where we can invest anytime just like we are able to withdraw anytime? If I win the first bet and lose the second with lesser odds,will the amounts be adjusted if I want to withdraw in the 3rd bet?

There is no entrance after the jar close.
We are doing All-ins, so if we lose the second bet, there is no 3rd bet.

So it mean you will start again with new jar?

[Joca97]

Joca97 is a best tipster in the forum ideed.I would like to participate .What if  I want to skip the first week of the jar tips and join in the second week?Like is there a option where we can invest anytime just like we are able to withdraw anytime? If I win the first bet and lose the second with lesser odds,will the amounts be adjusted if I want to withdraw in the 3rd bet?

There is no entrance after the jar close.
We are doing All-ins, so if we lose the second bet, there is no 3rd bet.

So it mean you will start again with new jar?

Yes a new jar will be made again!

[erwin45hacked]

There is no entrance after the jar close.
We are doing All-ins, so if we lose the second bet, there is no 3rd bet.

So it mean you will start again with new jar?

It means they will keep on collecting funds from people and gamble at 2x odds and hope that luck hit them and win. If they win then they will get commission however if they lose then it is normal since it is a gamble after all so there is no point in providing them with a gamble money to waste on if you can do that yourself

[jacee]

I'm in!
https://blockchain.info/tx/8e3d1d5cfe6191e0f84d076fc7fbe0603853c7eb740d9e9b2b1a736c96fb01ef

Goodluck Carles and Joca. I hope the odds will ever be in your favor.

[CarlesPuyol]

After some discussions, me and joca Decided to low our profit  from 30% to 15%. And our participants gets 85%. We really want this experiment to be huge so we agreed to share more profit with you.
Now its time to jump on!!

[CarlesPuyol]

I'm in!
https://blockchain.info/tx/8e3d1d5cfe6191e0f84d076fc7fbe0603853c7eb740d9e9b2b1a736c96fb01ef

Goodluck Carles and Joca. I hope the odds will ever be in your favor.

Welcome 

[maku]

Interesting idea, this is something new and I never seen similar attempt here. But it is somewhat risky (gambling, duh!).
There is a scenario that you will lose all your bets after all. I will wait for now and see how it will go, if round 1 will be a success then I will consider taking part.

[Falconer]

Interesting idea, this is something new and I never seen similar attempt here. But it is somewhat risky (gambling, duh!).
There is a scenario that you will lose all your bets after all. I will wait for now and see how it will go, if round 1 will be a success then I will consider taking part.

It is risky because it will be risking the entire amount of the jar and the odds seems to be huge enough. I dont know exactly why these two great tipster is trying to do this kind of things however they could do better than just gamble everyone's money by using all in in their bets and pretend that nothing happened if they lost since this is gambling

[gordonhill]

After some discussions, me and joca Decided to low our profit  from 30% to 15%. And our participants gets 85%. We really want this experiment to be huge so we agreed to share more profit with you.
Now its time to jump on!!

Thanks guys!! And kill the bookmaker with wisely research!

Cheers!! ●‿●

[Joca97]

I'm in!
https://blockchain.info/tx/8e3d1d5cfe6191e0f84d076fc7fbe0603853c7eb740d9e9b2b1a736c96fb01ef

Goodluck Carles and Joca. I hope the odds will ever be in your favor.

Welcome jacee,we are looking forward to this challenge !

[Falconer]

And kill the bookmaker with wisely research!

Im pretty sure that this wont need any research at all since they will just be gambling away your money with odds of 2 atleast. There's a s lim chance that they might be able to go through until the third bet however everything will depends on luck wether this challenge will go through or not but afterall they are doing a risk free challenge for them

[jacee]

I'm in!
https://blockchain.info/tx/8e3d1d5cfe6191e0f84d076fc7fbe0603853c7eb740d9e9b2b1a736c96fb01ef

Goodluck Carles and Joca. I hope the odds will ever be in your favor.

Welcome jacee,we are looking forward to this challenge !

I am confident you guys could get profit from this. Based on your records, there is a really high chances that you guys will most likely pick what is going to win so goodluck! I hope you guys make the best of the coins you will accumulate on the jar! Looking forward!

[nickaizoku]

so i join you group, i just make payment to jar.. i put 0.04 for this jar
https://blockchain.info/tx/a57443d345e3710da536459270e4b5c628087b7e82c322f7a992a8c8e36c30fc

please check and confirm. its start more few days isnt it?

[udet4food]

well you can withdraw at anytime you want after first bet or later...

Doesn't it say in the OP that you can only withdraw after the 2nd bet?
If you are allowed to withdraw after the first bet, I'm in!

Also to OP, edit the part where it says "He receives 70% of his partial profit" to 85% now that you've decreased the commission.

[CarlesPuyol]

well you can withdraw at anytime you want after first bet or later...

Doesn't it say in the OP that you can only withdraw after the 2nd bet?
If you are allowed to withdraw after the first bet, I'm in!

Also to OP, edit the part where it says "He receives 70% of his partial profit" to 85% now that you've decreased the commission.

Edited.
Yes everyone can withdraw after the 1st win.

[cancerbola]

I have a question before putting some funds into the jar: Will the bets generally have low odds (<1.5), or high odds (>1.5)? And which in sport will you bet in?
I just want to fully assess the risk. I know that the commission is now only 15%, and that investors can withdraw after 1 win. Now I need the final piece.

[CarlesPuyol]

I have a question before putting some funds into the jar: Will the bets generally have low odds (<1.5), or high odds (>1.5)? And which in sport will you bet in?
I just want to fully assess the risk. I know that the commission is now only 15%, and that investors can withdraw after 1 win. Now I need the final piece.

My specialty is NBA and Tennis. Joca has a great knowledge in basketball, soccer and tennis. I have an expert team which are making deep researches in the NBA, and we try to "catch" the right games.
The average odds in basketball are about 1.9-1.95

[Joca97]

The challenge starts in 2 days,remember guys if we reach 1 btc in the jar there will be bonuses for investors!! If we dont reach the 1btc the bonuses will be disabled ...current amount in the jar is 0.10 btc

[ralle14]

The jar will close at february 22 6pm forum time right i just need to clarify to make it in time tomorrow.

[saturn643]

The jar will close at february 22 6pm forum time right i just need to clarify to make it in time tomorrow.

The original post says February 23, but perhaps I might be wrong.

- The jar will be open for the next 7 days from now until 23.2 - This exact hour.

[Joca97]

The jar will close at february 22 6pm forum time right i just need to clarify to make it in time tomorrow.

The original post says February 23, but perhaps I might be wrong.

- The jar will be open for the next 7 days from now until 23.2 - This exact hour.

Timing is ticking off,get your seat now while there is still a chance to be a part of something BIG

[ralle14]

The jar will close at february 22 6pm forum time right i just need to clarify to make it in time tomorrow.

The original post says February 23, but perhaps I might be wrong.

- The jar will be open for the next 7 days from now until 23.2 - This exact hour.

Ah yes seems like i misread it the other way. Anyways im joining on this one already send some on the jar heres the proof
https://blockchain.info/tx/5b85e6f60e28fbaee12299fcd683340935e3e2084c851cfd5585b6f204f31a64

[erwin45hacked]

My specialty is NBA and Tennis. Joca has a great knowledge in basketball, soccer and tennis. I have an expert team which are making deep researches in the NBA, and we try to "catch" the right games.
The average odds in basketball are about 1.9-1.95

Why the rush to win this challenge by betting on the high odds if you could run this for the whole week by betting on the smaller odds and also doesnt involve betting the entire jar amount? Surely you could do better than this, it is of course not your money therefore you wont feel anything at all even if you waste it alltogether in one bet

[CarlesPuyol]

My specialty is NBA and Tennis. Joca has a great knowledge in basketball, soccer and tennis. I have an expert team which are making deep researches in the NBA, and we try to "catch" the right games.
The average odds in basketball are about 1.9-1.95

Why the rush to win this challenge by betting on the high odds if you could run this for the whole week by betting on the smaller odds and also doesnt involve betting the entire jar amount? Surely you could do better than this, it is of course not your money therefore you wont feel anything at all even if you waste it alltogether in one bet

1. Low odds is illusion and that's how the bookies making money on you. If the low odds were easy bets, all of you had profits and I don't think that's what happens.

2. Do you think I'm sitting hours with my team and don't bet on my picks? You think wrong.
https://sports.jetwin.ps/share-bet?id=X1IUKMS7

3. Pick a single in a day. No more. And see that you also can get 2-3-4-5 consecutive wins.

4.Have a Good day and hope you see only profits.

[ralle14]

My specialty is NBA and Tennis. Joca has a great knowledge in basketball, soccer and tennis. I have an expert team which are making deep researches in the NBA, and we try to "catch" the right games.
The average odds in basketball are about 1.9-1.95

Why the rush to win this challenge by betting on the high odds if you could run this for the whole week by betting on the smaller odds and also doesnt involve betting the entire jar amount? Surely you could do better than this, it is of course not your money therefore you wont feel anything at all even if you waste it alltogether in one bet

1. Low odds is illusion and that's how the bookies making money on you. If the low odds were easy bets, all of you had profits and I don't think that's what happens.

2. Do you think I'm sitting hours with my team and don't bet on my picks? You think wrong.
https://sports.jetwin.ps/share-bet?id=X1IUKMS7

3. Pick a single in a day. No more. And see that you also can get 2-3-4-5 consecutive wins.

4.Have a Good day and hope you see only profits.

Number one is definitely true the bookies always confuse you with the low odds when betting on live or pre game. I had more losses than betting low odds so i started avoiding them because theyre really not worth betting on

[gkv9]

1. Low odds is illusion and that's how the bookies making money on you. If the low odds were easy bets, all of you had profits and I don't think that's what happens.

2. Do you think I'm sitting hours with my team and don't bet on my picks? You think wrong.
https://sports.jetwin.ps/share-bet?id=X1IUKMS7

3. Pick a single in a day. No more. And see that you also can get 2-3-4-5 consecutive wins.

4.Have a Good day and hope you see only profits.[/b][/u]

You have given the best explanation IMHO...
I will always follow these as I have had some days which were best and some were worst, but I never broke apart, and still learning something new everyday from everyone out here...
Thanks for sharing your principles on gambling, this is what a true gambler does...

[Mars110]

Hmzz, very interesting and very profitable.

I think, this investment is very fun and very profitable. I have a little question for you, if you've opened it, chances are you already have some experience about the match that you would use to put funds in invest to you ..?? and how you do it in a match bet + how much you'll ever get (win and loss).

[stiffbud]

1. Low odds is illusion and that's how the bookies making money on you. If the low odds were easy bets, all of you had profits and I don't think that's what happens.

2. Do you think I'm sitting hours with my team and don't bet on my picks? You think wrong.
https://sports.jetwin.ps/share-bet?id=X1IUKMS7

3. Pick a single in a day. No more. And see that you also can get 2-3-4-5 consecutive wins.

4.Have a Good day and hope you see only profits.

Based on my sportsbettin experience what you said here is true. Bookies get more money by deceiving players o the low odds. I used to bet on them but I noticed it one day so as long as I can J always try to avoid low odds betting on sportsbook.

[CarlesPuyol]

1. Low odds is illusion and that's how the bookies making money on you. If the low odds were easy bets, all of you had profits and I don't think that's what happens.

2. Do you think I'm sitting hours with my team and don't bet on my picks? You think wrong.
https://sports.jetwin.ps/share-bet?id=X1IUKMS7

3. Pick a single in a day. No more. And see that you also can get 2-3-4-5 consecutive wins.

4.Have a Good day and hope you see only profits.[/b][/u]

You have given the best explanation IMHO...
I will always follow these as I have had some days which were best and some were worst, but I never broke apart, and still learning something new everyday from everyone out here...
Thanks for sharing your principles on gambling, this is what a true gambler does...

There are a lot of more things to consider in the gambling world. Maybe i'll make here a thread for that one day.

The jar will close at february 22 6pm forum time right i just need to clarify to make it in time tomorrow.

The original post says February 23, but perhaps I might be wrong.

- The jar will be open for the next 7 days from now until 23.2 - This exact hour.

Ah yes seems like i misread it the other way. Anyways im joining on this one already send some on the jar heres the proof
https://blockchain.info/tx/5b85e6f60e28fbaee12299fcd683340935e3e2084c851cfd5585b6f204f31a64

Confirmed. GL

Hmzz, very interesting and very profitable.

I think, this investment is very fun and very profitable. I have a little question for you, if you've opened it, chances are you already have some experience about the match that you would use to put funds in invest to you ..?? and how you do it in a match bet + how much you'll ever get (win and loss).

As I said, me and joca have some experience in some kinds of sports. and we would like to share our knowledge with you.

[Mars110]

Hmzz, very interesting and very profitable.

I think, this investment is very fun and very profitable. I have a little question for you, if you've opened it, chances are you already have some experience about the match that you would use to put funds in invest to you ..?? and how you do it in a match bet + how much you'll ever get (win and loss).

As I said, me and joca have some experience in some kinds of sports. and we would like to share our knowledge with you.
[/quote]

Hmzz, I don't mean to doubt your experince, but I just want to make sure that you are indeed truly experienced in betting on sporting events. Because I've found there are offering themselves as you do, but after he got a lot of consumer fraud, he did by way of disappearing without a trace. And that, I hope that doesn't happen to us, we wish you also do not have such negative thoughts.

[Joca97]

Hmzz, very interesting and very profitable.

I think, this investment is very fun and very profitable. I have a little question for you, if you've opened it, chances are you already have some experience about the match that you would use to put funds in invest to you ..?? and how you do it in a match bet + how much you'll ever get (win and loss).

As I said, me and joca have some experience in some kinds of sports. and we would like to share our knowledge with you.

Hmzz, I don't mean to doubt your experince, but I just want to make sure that you are indeed truly experienced in betting on sporting events. Because I've found there are offering themselves as you do, but after he got a lot of consumer fraud, he did by way of disappearing without a trace. And that, I hope that doesn't happen to us, we wish you also do not have such negative thoughts.

[/quote]
here is 1 easy question to answer

my account is worth more then 1 btc,why would i risk my reputation and the value of my account for this many btc

[LFC_Bitcoin]

To the dude questioning Joca - He's been around a long time & never once attempted to scam anybody. He wouldn't risk his reputation over 1 bitcoin.

[shulio]

To the dude questioning Joca - He's been around a long time & never once attempted to scam anybody. He wouldn't risk his reputation over 1 bitcoin.

This is internet and this is where most scams comes from. To remind and refresh your memory again, this is just a virtual world and virtual forum and your reputation here doesnt mean anything. There has been alot of cases where some reputable member of this forum has pulled an exit scam in the forum

[katerniko1]

I can vauch for joca he wont run with anyones money so you can depossit to jar if you thing it eill be good try..
regards.
-Katerniko1

[maku]

To the dude questioning Joca - He's been around a long time & never once attempted to scam anybody. He wouldn't risk his reputation over 1 bitcoin.

This is internet and this is where most scams comes from. To remind and refresh your memory again, this is just a virtual world and virtual forum and your reputation here doesnt mean anything. There has been alot of cases where some reputable member of this forum has pulled an exit scam in the forum

Using that kind of logic means everyone is a potential scammer and you can't trust anyone, which is a bit extreme.
Like the other guys said Joca97 is known figure on this forum and sportsbetting sites, he might lose the bet but he won't runaway with yr money.

That is exactly why I will wait and see how this project will develop. If this will be a success (or at least it won't be major flop) after first round.
Then people might get interested, it is hard to start something new and fresh because fear of the scams is very strong in our community.

[CarlesPuyol]

The jar is closing tomorrow.

[gkv9]

1. Low odds is illusion and that's how the bookies making money on you. If the low odds were easy bets, all of you had profits and I don't think that's what happens.

2. Do you think I'm sitting hours with my team and don't bet on my picks? You think wrong.
https://sports.jetwin.ps/share-bet?id=X1IUKMS7

3. Pick a single in a day. No more. And see that you also can get 2-3-4-5 consecutive wins.

4.Have a Good day and hope you see only profits.[/b][/u]

You have given the best explanation IMHO...
I will always follow these as I have had some days which were best and some were worst, but I never broke apart, and still learning something new everyday from everyone out here...
Thanks for sharing your principles on gambling, this is what a true gambler does...

There are a lot of more things to consider in the gambling world. Maybe i'll make here a thread for that one day.

I will wait for the same, but though, you have given enough knowledge a basic gambler needs before gambling anything...
Till my wait, I would like to ask that is it just for this week???
As I won't be able to invest this week, so I asked that will we be given a chance next time too???

[gordonhill]

The jar is closing tomorrow.

●‿●

[twicezeroiszero]

Here Im in :

Transaction ID: "6e1efdc1b40fae5355604ae49f659aa0d764d84ee5014ef7a6cb5a3aac0e3471"

 

[aakashsangwan]

To the dude questioning Joca - He's been around a long time & never once attempted to scam anybody. He wouldn't risk his reputation over 1 bitcoin.

This is internet and this is where most scams comes from. To remind and refresh your memory again, this is just a virtual world and virtual forum and your reputation here doesnt mean anything. There has been alot of cases where some reputable member of this forum has pulled an exit scam in the forum

Using that kind of logic means everyone is a potential scammer and you can't trust anyone, which is a bit extreme.
Like the other guys said Joca97 is known figure on this forum and sportsbetting sites, he might lose the bet but he won't runaway with yr money.

That is exactly why I will wait and see how this project will develop. If this will be a success (or at least it won't be major flop) after first round.
Then people might get interested, it is hard to start something new and fresh because fear of the scams is very strong in our community.

Ya it is true that anyone one starting a new project in the starting everyone will not get faith on that project until they dont get any result but here the person who is starting is before itself earning from his other project from a long time and his earning are much more greater than what he is offering in this project so their should not be the point of scam. But anything is possible as before said this is a virtual forum and reputation here is not calculated on real as after scam he can come back with new id and start his work from new.

I will wait for this project to start and see the results.

[CarlesPuyol]

Here Im in :

Transaction ID: "6e1efdc1b40fae5355604ae49f659aa0d764d84ee5014ef7a6cb5a3aac0e3471"

 

Confirmed.
Total BTC in jar: 0.2BTC
7 Hours left

[Wendigo]

Are your first bets going to be on the Champions League tonight and tomorrow? Personally I would want to watch this from the sidelines for now as this is your pilot project and I would like to see what will happen. Good luck anyways with your wagering.

[stiffbud]

I was wondering, what if the first try lost?
I am thinking of entering but 0.02 btc is too much for me to gamble.

[Everybitbit]

im intended to put btc on this jar, but i lose it on dice.. that sad..
well might join this party after this 1st round, good luck to all investor in here.

[CarlesPuyol]

I was wondering, what if the first try lost?
I am thinking of entering but 0.02 btc is too much for me to gamble.

We hope to bring you the most confident pick. If we lose, the money goes to the bookies.

[RealPhotoshoper]

join the fun!

bdfbe685eb2604c0f6112c1962870e517eee644594e097d2f1ce5ef9d7928287

please confirm carles or joca.
i may keep this fund until get tripled 
Goodluck for everyone

[srgkrgkj]

hopefully the jar opens up again another week but in the mean while ill keep a eye on the current pot a good round will help publicity

[CarlesPuyol]

join the fun!

bdfbe685eb2604c0f6112c1962870e517eee644594e097d2f1ce5ef9d7928287

please confirm carles or joca.
i may keep this fund until get tripled 
Goodluck for everyone

0.07BTC confirmed!

[ralle14]

Damn our pick isnt looking good now these teams are scoring too much on the first half.

[klf]

Damn our pick isnt looking good now these teams are scoring too much on the first half.

It is a common in betting because we can't predict all results accurately. If you can predict results so accurately then you wouldn't had opened this thread for public funds to bet.

So you guys bet 100% jar funds on one match or you will split those funds for few matches? Good luck guys.

[RealPhotoshoper]

Damn our pick isnt looking good now these teams are scoring too much on the first half.

it's over i guess, no chance the game will be under 207.5 . 3rd quarter now and the game over 190 already.
don't worry this would be bad start but for next challenge we wish a better pick and better luck of course .

[nickaizoku]

Damn our pick isnt looking good now these teams are scoring too much on the first half.

1st pick is lose well, its was fun anyway betting with jar. quite excited actually..
when the next jar open? i  will buy some position again until i go my profit for this jar

[jacee]

It's unfortunatethat the first pick had to loose. I was actually hoping with you guys teamed up you could predict which is going to win.
Oh well, this is gambling. I just thought maybe it was better if you had split up the funds to two or more just in case the first bet didn't turned out well. It's no thrill when you lose the firt bet and no more secon time to look forward to.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to the next jar, I hope you guys could lower the entry ticket for a bit maybe a 0.01 BTC.
That way loosing wouldn't be too hard for those who has their coins in the jar.

[Emperor Magnus Caligula]

It's unfortunatethat the first pick had to loose. I was actually hoping with you guys teamed up you could predict which is going to win.
Oh well, this is gambling. I just thought maybe it was better if you had split up the funds to two or more just in case the first bet didn't turned out well. It's no thrill when you lose the firt bet and no more secon time to look forward to.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to the next jar, I hope you guys could lower the entry ticket for a bit maybe a 0.01 BTC.
That way loosing wouldn't be too hard for those who has their coins in the jar.

what was the first pick?

just curious

[Superhitech]

Are your first bets going to be on the Champions League tonight and tomorrow? Personally I would want to watch this from the sidelines for now as this is your pilot project and I would like to see what will happen. Good luck anyways with your wagering.

Generally, when Carles sets up a jar, he doesn't reveal the picks he's chosen to people who haven't put money into the jar.

Damn our pick isnt looking good now these teams are scoring too much on the first half.

1st pick is lose well, its was fun anyway betting with jar. quite excited actually..
when the next jar open? i  will buy some position again until i go my profit for this jar

I presume that the next jar will open as soon as Joca and Carles have thought of a solid winning pick. Hopefully that the profits will go to the moon this time. However, I also agree with jacee, it would be great if they could lower the minimum deposit in the jar, so we don't have to risk too much in our deposits.

[twicezeroiszero]

oh well there goes my 0.08 BTC looks like I have to sell some CUBE today. I thought with the reputation of both these tipsters that at least they could have managed to get one win. Thats Gambling for you sometimes you win sometimes you lose.

[ralle14]

It's unfortunatethat the first pick had to loose. I was actually hoping with you guys teamed up you could predict which is going to win.
Oh well, this is gambling. I just thought maybe it was better if you had split up the funds to two or more just in case the first bet didn't turned out well. It's no thrill when you lose the firt bet and no more secon time to look forward to.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to the next jar, I hope you guys could lower the entry ticket for a bit maybe a 0.01 BTC.
That way loosing wouldn't be too hard for those who has their coins in the jar.

Yeah i agree with you i hope they lower the amount for entering .01-.015 would be nice so that more people will join the challenge jar.

[bittrojan]

It's unfortunatethat the first pick had to loose. I was actually hoping with you guys teamed up you could predict which is going to win.
Oh well, this is gambling. I just thought maybe it was better if you had split up the funds to two or more just in case the first bet didn't turned out well. It's no thrill when you lose the firt bet and no more secon time to look forward to.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to the next jar, I hope you guys could lower the entry ticket for a bit maybe a 0.01 BTC.
That way loosing wouldn't be too hard for those who has their coins in the jar.

This challenge lost in the first pick Owwwwww too bad it's just unfortunate yeah.
And they bet it all in once because  I guess that was the plan from the beginning they start this challenge idea.
Good luck everyone.

[BitcoinSupremo]

These things are common in gambling, there's nothing like a sure win so don't worry. I am pretty sure these guys will pull out a win in their second try. Wish them good luck.

[brianlee01]

It's unfortunatethat the first pick had to loose. I was actually hoping with you guys teamed up you could predict which is going to win.
Oh well, this is gambling. I just thought maybe it was better if you had split up the funds to two or more just in case the first bet didn't turned out well. It's no thrill when you lose the firt bet and no more secon time to look forward to.
Anyway, I'll be looking forward to the next jar, I hope you guys could lower the entry ticket for a bit maybe a 0.01 BTC.
That way loosing wouldn't be too hard for those who has their coins in the jar.

what was the first pick?

just curious

The pick is Philadelphia 76ers v Orlando Magic Under 207.5
Result goal for this game too far Compared with predictable

[stiffbud]

I feel sorry for those who has coin at stake in here. First bet was lost. So unfortunate. I think it's better if carles and joca didn't bet all at once so there could've been a second bet to recover the loss. Better luck next time guys! I guess it's a good thing that I didn't have enough coin to join the jar.

[Wendigo]

Well looks like I didn't miss out on the action yesterday. I am wondering why they didn't choose one of the CL games tonight or yesterday there are some matches with high odds to warrant a try. I guess their joined 90% winning probability wasn't enough after all.

[poplolnman]

Well looks like I didn't miss out on the action yesterday. I am wondering why they didn't choose one of the CL games tonight or yesterday there are some matches with high odds to warrant a try. I guess their joined 90% winning probability wasn't enough after all.

Well nothing sure in gambling,  if there is a tipster with 99% winning record there is once or twice their picks lost .
So luck needed too here, I just surprised too the pick isn't for champions league.

[nickaizoku]

yeah this is gambling of course will lose and win, but its fun actually for me.. if the bet is win it will more fun, coz i make another bet after got PM from carles, if it win ive win alot from this.
anyway when will another jar open again? im excited for another round
maybe this time luck be on our side? who know

[Falconer]

yeah this is gambling of course will lose and win, but its fun actually for me.. if the bet is win it will more fun, coz i make another bet after got PM from carles, if it win ive win alot from this.
anyway when will another jar open again? im excited for another round
maybe this time luck be on our side? who know

It is funny how you are trusting other people to gamble for you and they dont need to feel responsible for it because it is gambling. You could just gamble, lose by yourself and feel all the thrill, it is simple and doesnt require two so called tipster to do that for you. It is funny that so many people trust this thing as I see this to be an easy money for them, if they lose they lose nothing but if they win they get commision. They could keep trying until they win as long as people support them by sending it to the jar

[nickaizoku]

yeah this is gambling of course will lose and win, but its fun actually for me.. if the bet is win it will more fun, coz i make another bet after got PM from carles, if it win ive win alot from this.
anyway when will another jar open again? im excited for another round
maybe this time luck be on our side? who know

It is funny how you are trusting other people to gamble for you and they dont need to feel responsible for it because it is gambling. You could just gamble, lose by yourself and feel all the thrill, it is simple and doesnt require two so called tipster to do that for you. It is funny that so many people trust this thing as I see this to be an easy money for them, if they lose they lose nothing but if they win they get commision. They could keep trying until they win as long as people support them by sending it to the jar

Maybe its funny for you but not for us who put in jar

Yes your are right i just could gamble my money by myself. But i just feel the luck is not by my side..
its gambling anyway need alittle luck. So why not i try my luck by other people picks? Maybe its better? Who knows right...

What the difference when i gamble i lose and they gamble they lose? Is the same lose too.
Well if someone bet for you and its win pick they deserve a little commission of course. We borrow they luck so its make sense to give commission..Well at least they trying to observe and pick the best match..

But on the other side.. if this bet win.. you wont comment something like this i believe

[Falconer]

yeah this is gambling of course will lose and win, but its fun actually for me.. if the bet is win it will more fun, coz i make another bet after got PM from carles, if it win ive win alot from this.
anyway when will another jar open again? im excited for another round
maybe this time luck be on our side? who know

It is funny how you are trusting other people to gamble for you and they dont need to feel responsible for it because it is gambling. You could just gamble, lose by yourself and feel all the thrill, it is simple and doesnt require two so called tipster to do that for you. It is funny that so many people trust this thing as I see this to be an easy money for them, if they lose they lose nothing but if they win they get commision. They could keep trying until they win as long as people support them by sending it to the jar

Maybe its funny for you but not for us who put in jar

Yes your are right i just could gamble my money by myself. But i just feel the luck is not by my side..
its gambling anyway need alittle luck. So why not i try my luck by other people picks? Maybe its better? Who knows right...

What the difference when i gamble i lose and they gamble they lose? Is the same lose too.
Well if someone bet for you and its win pick they deserve a little commission of course. We borrow they luck so its make sense to give commission..Well at least they trying to observe and pick the best match..

But on the other side.. if this bet win.. you wont comment something like this i believe

It doesnt really matter whoever betting on it because pretty sure luck do not take sides. If these guy are lucky guy then they would not need your funds to bet on it, they could have just use their own funds for it. The fact that they asked for your funds means that they know they are not lucky enough and try to make some money using other people's funds

[Joca97]

me and carles are still in shock

new details will be known soon,stay tuned

[deadley]

Are they completed any challenge yet or how many challenges they lost already.

P.S. Don't have time to read full thread.

[BitcoinSupremo]

Are they completed any challenge yet or how many challenges they lost already.

P.S. Don't have time to read full thread.

They lost the first for the moment.... but I am sure they will be back.

[deadley]

Are they completed any challenge yet or how many challenges they lost already.

P.S. Don't have time to read full thread.

They lost the first for the moment.... but I am sure they will be back.

So there is no contribution from Joca and CarlesPuyol in jar. lol playing with people money it's a biggest joke.

So they don't have enough confidence on themselves that they put some money in jar.

Becareful guys you even dont know how many are shill account who post in these tips thread.

[Nobitcoin]

All you idiots who believed these so called tipsters. They haven't even posted any response to their amazing loss wait they didn't lose anything. If they had any decency they should refund the contributions since they couldn't even get one bet right. So people you going to trust these 2 clowns again ?

[Joca97]

Are they completed any challenge yet or how many challenges they lost already.

P.S. Don't have time to read full thread.

They lost the first for the moment.... but I am sure they will be back.

So there is no contribution from Joca and CarlesPuyol in jar. lol playing with people money it's a biggest joke.

So they don't have enough confidence on themselves that they put some money in jar.

Becareful guys you even dont know how many are shill account who post in these tips thread.

You can ask admins to checkout are accounts and other if there are same IP addresses
we arent using any shill accounts

[erwin45hacked]

So there is no contribution from Joca and CarlesPuyol in jar. lol playing with people money it's a biggest joke.

So they don't have enough confidence on themselves that they put some money in jar.

Becareful guys you even dont know how many are shill account who post in these tips thread.

They are most likely not shills and are different people however they share the same stupidity imo because they spend their funds for nothing here except for other people to waste on. Joca and charles should put some amount on the jar as well if they are serious about this challenge rather than for fun, so far this has made my day how people lost on the first turn

[debuni]

Even if its 99% sure game, 1.06 its not a value bet.

Actually IT IS.
In 99% you will win 6% (99*6) and then in 1% you will lose 100%.
But is real life there isn't a bookie which will offer 1.06 on 99% They are not charity business.

Even if its 99% sure game, 1.06 its not a value bet.

Actually IT IS.
In 99% you will win 6% (99*6) and then in 1% you will lose 100%.
But is real life there isn't a bookie which will offer 1.06 on 99% They are not charity business.

It isn't!! And if you think it is value bet, you should stop bet right now and do something else with your money.

I usually don't write about fellows tipsters, but this is what you've deserve about your own stupidity.

1. You are paying 15% 'tipster tax' OVER the bookie house edge

2. Everyone claiming s**ts like CarlesPuyol doesn't deserve to manage and 0.00000001BTC.

Why? Low odds are usually most f*cked for players, because bookies are calculating there their biggest margin. Completely agree.
BUT! This is pure stupidity. If you have 99% on 1.06 you will be the biggest winner on Earth. Because if you bet 1BTC every time, you will win 99*0.06BTC and you will lose 1*1BTC = 5.94BTC - 1BTC = +4.94 Pure Profit per 100 bets. Without almost nay variation.

3. Playing without bankroll management is idiotic, if it's not solely for fun purposes. Here, on BTC, there isn't a single tipster with a proper statistic like average odd, L/W, stake per bet, etc.

[BitcoinSupremo]

I think people are being to harsh on Joca and Carles, if you check their history of tips, you wouldn't talk like you are doing now just because the first bet is a loss. It could happen to anyone. So as I have said before I am pretty sure these guys will come back hard and make some good wins.

[rizkyhiw]

I think people are being to harsh on Joca and Carles, if you check their history of tips, you wouldn't talk like you are doing now just because the first bet is a loss. It could happen to anyone. So as I have said before I am pretty sure these guys will come back hard and make some good wins.

Looks like this 1 lost bet ruin their reputation , but I don't think so too.
As joca said they were shocked by their first challenge pick that unexpectedly lost.
I just hope they back and prove their ability to everyone here once again.

[deadley]

I even don't think who posting low odds as a tipster.

Tipster means you can find good value picks with good odds.

If they think they are really good let me provide platform where they can earn 1000's of $ each month.

But they are not good they are fooling people or copying picks from other site and posting here.

[deadley]

Are they completed any challenge yet or how many challenges they lost already.

P.S. Don't have time to read full thread.

They lost the first for the moment.... but I am sure they will be back.

So there is no contribution from Joca and CarlesPuyol in jar. lol playing with people money it's a biggest joke.

So they don't have enough confidence on themselves that they put some money in jar.

Becareful guys you even dont know how many are shill account who post in these tips thread.

You can ask admins to checkout are accounts and other if there are same IP addresses
we arent using any shill accounts

Admin allow here you can hold as many as shill, so they don't care to check and waste their time what is going on here.

[twicezeroiszero]

I am definetly not a shill and just lost 0.08 

[deadley]

I am definetly not a shill and just lost 0.08 

Of course you are not because you are fool, you trust them who don't have enough confidence on themselves, who can't put their money on their picks then how you can trust them they will win you money.

Do you guys really think if they are enough successful on giving pick they  even don't waste their time here and was earning themselves more then enough and don't fool people about premium picks and other way.


P.S. Mostly tipster here use forum so they can increase their post counts and earn money from signature advertising.

[CarlesPuyol]

Hi all,
I was reading all your comments and got shocked.
All the investors should know the risk of gambling.
We tried here something different. Unfortunately it wasnt succeeded.
About the accusation of using people's money- Why do you think I wasnt here for 2 days? I will tell you- I lost large amount of My money on this pick and I wanted to get some fresh air and stay away from the internet for couple days.
I know its not easy situation, but the loses are part of this game and if someone doesn't know how to lose, he should stay away from gambling, because today its 0.03BTC, and tomorrow it can be 10000$.
I'm sorry for all our loses.

[Gianluca95]

I am definetly not a shill and just lost 0.08  

Of course you are not because you are fool, you trust them who don't have enough confidence on themselves, who can't put their money on their picks then how you can trust them they will win you money.

Do you guys really think if they are enough successful on giving pick they  even don't waste their time here and was earning themselves more then enough and don't fool people about premium picks and other way.


P.S. Mostly tipster here use forum so they can increase their post counts and earn money from signature advertising.

Have you finished your shitty show? Please stop to SPAM here and go in an other part ! Have you invested in this jar? No? And now what do you want? Is a free choice of every users to invest in this challenge, no one has pointed the gun in your face and has told to you "Bet on this jar or I'll kill you", so, what do you want now?

Work as tipster, is really really hard because no one, including the most important tipster of the world doesn't lose. And everyone that has accepted this jar before to invest had to think that "coz is gambling there is a considerable probability that I'll lose my money", stop.

Gambling is not a safe investment (like other one, there aren't safe investment). So, if someone, like Joca97 and CarlesPuyol (two tipster and friends that I esteem so much) comes here and purpose a jar to all of the users, think it as a simple game where you can win a good amount of BTC or you can lose all.

So, don't be children, if you're a man with some maturity you can understand that in gambling is natural to lose.

Good luck for Joca97 and Carles Puyol for their next challenge.

[mexicantarget]

Hello, and sorry about everyone's loss.

Now, to the topic.
Is there any visual proof that either one tipster or another tipster did indeed put the jar money on a bet?

[CarlesPuyol]

Hello, and sorry about everyone's loss.

Now, to the topic.
Is there any visual proof that either one tipster or another tipster did indeed put the jar money on a bet?

Yes. It was sent to participants by PM.

[deadley]

I am definetly not a shill and just lost 0.08  

Of course you are not because you are fool, you trust them who don't have enough confidence on themselves, who can't put their money on their picks then how you can trust them they will win you money.

Do you guys really think if they are enough successful on giving pick they  even don't waste their time here and was earning themselves more then enough and don't fool people about premium picks and other way.


P.S. Mostly tipster here use forum so they can increase their post counts and earn money from signature advertising.

Have you finished your shitty show? Please stop to SPAM here and go in an other part ! Have you invested in this jar? No? And now what do you want? Is a free choice of every users to invest in this challenge, no one has pointed the gun in your face and has told to you "Bet on this jar or I'll kill you", so, what do you want now?

Work as tipster, is really really hard because no one, including the most important tipster of the world doesn't lose. And everyone that has accepted this jar before to invest had to think that "coz is gambling there is a considerable probability that I'll lose my money", stop.

Gambling is not a safe investment (like other one, there aren't safe investment). So, if someone, like Joca97 and CarlesPuyol (two tipster and friends that I esteem so much) comes here and purpose a jar to all of the users, think it as a simple game where you can win a good amount of BTC or you can lose all.

So, don't be children, if you're a man with some maturity you can understand that in gambling is natural to lose.

Good luck for Joca97 and Carles Puyol for their next challenge.

lol, paid troll saying to me about spammy post. Did you put money in jar. No, so next time put your money and then post like that till then enjoy your spammy posts somewhere else and when both tipster did not put even single penny on jar so do you really expect they will play like they are playing with their money.

[Gianluca95]

I am definetly not a shill and just lost 0.08  

Of course you are not because you are fool, you trust them who don't have enough confidence on themselves, who can't put their money on their picks then how you can trust them they will win you money.

Do you guys really think if they are enough successful on giving pick they  even don't waste their time here and was earning themselves more then enough and don't fool people about premium picks and other way.


P.S. Mostly tipster here use forum so they can increase their post counts and earn money from signature advertising.

Have you finished your shitty show? Please stop to SPAM here and go in an other part ! Have you invested in this jar? No? And now what do you want? Is a free choice of every users to invest in this challenge, no one has pointed the gun in your face and has told to you "Bet on this jar or I'll kill you", so, what do you want now?

Work as tipster, is really really hard because no one, including the most important tipster of the world doesn't lose. And everyone that has accepted this jar before to invest had to think that "coz is gambling there is a considerable probability that I'll lose my money", stop.

Gambling is not a safe investment (like other one, there aren't safe investment). So, if someone, like Joca97 and CarlesPuyol (two tipster and friends that I esteem so much) comes here and purpose a jar to all of the users, think it as a simple game where you can win a good amount of BTC or you can lose all.

So, don't be children, if you're a man with some maturity you can understand that in gambling is natural to lose.

Good luck for Joca97 and Carles Puyol for their next challenge.

lol, paid troll saying to me about spammy post. Did you put money in jar. No, so next time put your money and then post like that till then enjoy your spammy posts somewhere else and when both tipster did not put even single penny on jar so do you really expect they will play like they are playing with their money.

Ridicolous.

[mexicantarget]

Hello, and sorry about everyone's loss.

Now, to the topic.
Is there any visual proof that either one tipster or another tipster did indeed put the jar money on a bet?

Yes. It was sent to participants by PM.

Care to share it with public, since the bet has passed and there are no ways to harm you guys?

[CarlesPuyol]

I am definetly not a shill and just lost 0.08  

Of course you are not because you are fool, you trust them who don't have enough confidence on themselves, who can't put their money on their picks then how you can trust them they will win you money.

Do you guys really think if they are enough successful on giving pick they  even don't waste their time here and was earning themselves more then enough and don't fool people about premium picks and other way.


P.S. Mostly tipster here use forum so they can increase their post counts and earn money from signature advertising.

Have you finished your shitty show? Please stop to SPAM here and go in an other part ! Have you invested in this jar? No? And now what do you want? Is a free choice of every users to invest in this challenge, no one has pointed the gun in your face and has told to you "Bet on this jar or I'll kill you", so, what do you want now?

Work as tipster, is really really hard because no one, including the most important tipster of the world doesn't lose. And everyone that has accepted this jar before to invest had to think that "coz is gambling there is a considerable probability that I'll lose my money", stop.

Gambling is not a safe investment (like other one, there aren't safe investment). So, if someone, like Joca97 and CarlesPuyol (two tipster and friends that I esteem so much) comes here and purpose a jar to all of the users, think it as a simple game where you can win a good amount of BTC or you can lose all.

So, don't be children, if you're a man with some maturity you can understand that in gambling is natural to lose.

Good luck for Joca97 and Carles Puyol for their next challenge.

lol, paid troll saying to me about spammy post. Did you put money in jar. No, so next time put your money and then post like that till then enjoy your spammy posts somewhere else and when both tipster did not put even single penny on jar so do you really expect they will play like they are playing with their money.

Ridicolous.

Gianluca, Its ok.  People here looking to accuse someone and there is no one to accuse but me.  
We are grown man and and I believe that for some people 0.02BTC is large amount of money (8$).
If someone cant handle those loses please PM me and we will see what we can do here. I promise to help.
And Im saying again: I didnt play with peoples money because I dont have on my own. I just tried to help.

Hello, and sorry about everyone's loss.

Now, to the topic.
Is there any visual proof that either one tipster or another tipster did indeed put the jar money on a bet?

Yes. It was sent to participants by PM.

Care to share it with public, since the bet has passed and there are no ways to harm you guys?

Its the photo that I sent to participant.

[CarlesPuyol]

Last thing,
In my last challenge, people won great amounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1327771.msg13784613#msg13784613
That's great that you guys know perfectly how to win.

[mexicantarget]

Last thing,
In my last challenge, people won great amounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1327771.msg13784613#msg13784613
That's great that you guys know perfectly how to win.

Seems everything is legit here tbh.

I don't get it why people get mad when they lose with gambling and sports.

They should get mad at themselves for taking the initiative and betting, instead of talking crap about tipsters.
Tipsters earn money from gamblers, that's their job. They're bookies too.

So, next time when you want to blame someone, don't blame the bookies or tipsters, blame yourself.

[stiffbud]

Last thing,
In my last challenge, people won great amounts
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1327771.msg13784613#msg13784613
That's great that you guys know perfectly how to win.

Seems everything is legit here tbh.

I don't get it why people get mad when they lose with gambling and sports.

They should get mad at themselves for taking the initiative and betting, instead of talking crap about tipsters.
Tipsters earn money from gamblers, that's their job. They're bookies too.

So, next time when you want to blame someone, don't blame the bookies or tipsters, blame yourself.

Some people were butthurt because they were confident enough that Carles and Joca will win. Well that is what they claimed in their thread here that they will be providing confident picks. The thing is, loosing on the second game wouldn't matter much but the lost on the first try seem not acceptable for them.

[bittrojan]

So this challenge just over Carles , joca?
I'm willing to see the real of you Carles like the challenge in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1327771.msg13784613#msg13784613
Also you joca are you gonna keep protracted in guilty and shock ? I hope there will be another challenge so I can join in, I still believe in you both.