Joca97 & CarlesPuyol Biggest Challenge made in Bitcointalk forum *Jar*

[nickaizoku]

hey carles, since im failed my thread.. im gonna trust my btc to you
good luck with this jar, im gonna deposit some to your guys jar as soon i got some payment.
i have feeling this one is good tips for us here.

[ralle14]

Examples of the profit you can make:

y put 0.02BTC
z put 0.06BTC
w put 0.08BTC
After 2 bets with odds of @2 w decides to quit. He receives 70% of his partial profit - 0.224BTC
After 3 bets with odds of @2 z decides to quit. He recieives 70% of his partial profit - 0.336BTC

All the bets will be exposed to you and proves will be given by photos

Dont miss the challenge of the year. Get a ticket right away.

Jar Address:  1Gs1MGYakAJDuqH1M6Hsp8Ubrab1fQLoY4

Participant list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg103rvhscwXS_FVMh2lFYwioXEfWcb_4YLaY6lLjLc/edit?usp=sharing

im confused about the example why is z has bigger profit than w but less btc risked. Anyways ill be joining the challenge in a few days before the closing of the jar.

[Karpeles]

Examples of the profit you can make:

y put 0.02BTC
z put 0.06BTC
w put 0.08BTC
After 2 bets with odds of @2 w decides to quit. He receives 70% of his partial profit - 0.224BTC
After 3 bets with odds of @2 z decides to quit. He recieives 70% of his partial profit - 0.336BTC

All the bets will be exposed to you and proves will be given by photos

Dont miss the challenge of the year. Get a ticket right away.

Jar Address:  1Gs1MGYakAJDuqH1M6Hsp8Ubrab1fQLoY4

Participant list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg103rvhscwXS_FVMh2lFYwioXEfWcb_4YLaY6lLjLc/edit?usp=sharing

im confused about the example why is z has bigger profit than w but less btc risked. Anyways ill be joining the challenge in a few days before the closing of the jar.

w quit after 2 bets only, while w after 3.

can't say that z risked less because hit 3 in a roll is really hard

[erwin45hacked]

Your examples shows that you will be using the odds of 2 for the bets, does this mean that there is no safety parameter like a maximum bet amount and maximum odds that you will use in betting? If this is so then people have no reason to trust you and wait for days and got cut by 30% , there is a dice for people to do so if they want

[Erza]

Your examples shows that you will be using the odds of 2 for the bets, does this mean that there is no safety parameter like a maximum bet amount and maximum odds that you will use in betting? If this is so then people have no reason to trust you and wait for days and got cut by 30% , there is a dice for people to do so if they want

I think they will keep on all in everything. From the past Carles will use around 1.9x odds and there is no maximum bet because of all in everything. Now he is combining win Joca and use 2x odds to be better. And 30% is just for helping fee for some people that dont have time to gather some information about particular match. Of course there is not safe because it is gambling, there will never be safe no matter how much odds you take but with combining of them I think the winning percentage will be better

[Wendigo]

So if I understand this correctly the minimum odds will be 2.00 and you will all-in the accumulated amount several times till it's lost or people decide to take out their profits. Buying a paid pick and betting as much cash on it would theoretically yield more money than receiving 70% in the end wouldn't it? And why don't you just roll with your own bitcoins if you want the bragging rights?

[shulio]

So if I understand this correctly the minimum odds will be 2.00 and you will all-in the accumulated amount several times till it's lost or people decide to take out their profits. Buying a paid pick and betting as much cash on it would theoretically yield more money than receiving 70% in the end wouldn't it? And why don't you just roll with your own bitcoins if you want the bragging rights?

Thats what I understand as well. It will be the same as playing 2x in a dice site but you will get all the amount for yourself so there is no need to put our money in the jar. Logically thinking, why would someone be taking the risk for 2x if you guys could do it right by betting at the smaller odds to get some higher chance to win

[patt0]

If it is "all in" all the time I think it's to risky. If you were betting to achieve maximum profit during those 7 days it would be more appealing I guess.

[Shibashi Nikamoto]

Joca is not being really luck at the moment.

At least the 0.02 will works like free premium tips, at least until they lose

[shulio]

Maybe you should lower minimal entrance to 0.01 or 0.005btc 

Probably it is not about the minimum entrance fee however it is more about the odds. Betting all in for 2x odds is just crazy game, no one will want to do that unless someone is very confident that it will win however even if the reward is great enough if they win then there is still 30 % fee to both of them

[katerniko1]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

[nanonymousx]

I been following CarlesPuyol picks before and they were excellent and worked on, also having the pot supervised by two Hero members make it a decent investment in risk too, I'll wait for the next pot, Best of luck to all players here~

[rizkyhiw]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

yeppp 30% split profit way too high everyone agree, since there is no winning guarantee and minimum invest not too low , 10% are more than enough isn't it?
so if you joca & carlespuyol want to reconsider to reduce the split winning to 10% maybe? people might more interesting to join.

[srgkrgkj]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

yeppp 30% split profit way too high everyone agree, since there is no winning guarantee and minimum invest not too low , 10% are more than enough isn't it?
so if you joca & carlespuyol want to reconsider to reduce the split winning to 10% maybe? people might more interesting to join.

it depends on how big the jar gets lol if its worth 10% then y not but if the jars basically 0.1 and at the end its 0.2 it might not be worth the time and effort to get picks etc///

[CarlesPuyol]

Sounds good but 30% profit is just too high no hard feelings.
regards.
-Katerniko1

yeppp 30% split profit way too high everyone agree, since there is no winning guarantee and minimum invest not too low , 10% are more than enough isn't it?
so if you joca & carlespuyol want to reconsider to reduce the split winning to 10% maybe? people might more interesting to join.

We will discuss about it.

[Joca97]

Hey guys the 30% is currently big because two best tipsters on the forum have combined and a losing chance is really really small
so even if we take this much you will still be in giant plus,are picks to win are bigger then 95 % chance,we are disscusing everyday what pick we should choose in the up coming matches and how we will play,so dont worry guys the 30% is small with what you can get !!!
remember that

regards Joca

[Gianluca95]

I'm interested in invest something on this challenge. Will keep contact with Joca97 in way to invest something

[erwin45hacked]

picks to win are bigger then 95 % chance

There is no way that you can guarantee this especially if you will be playing with odds of 2. You keep on saying that you are the best however as far as I can remember you have prove nothing but losing all your money in your own challenge before afther that you have gone silent until now

[ralle14]

w quit after 2 bets only, while w after 3.

can't say that z risked less because hit 3 in a roll is really hard

Thanks for that answer seems i have misread it the other way. Getting 3  wins should be easy if they bet it straight and not in a parlay.

[BTCevo]

If it is "all in" all the time I think it's to risky. If you were betting to achieve maximum profit during those 7 days it would be more appealing I guess.

I think you are misunderstanding this. 7 days is the limit for people wants to participate in this jar not the limit on max profit. They will sure keep on betting again and again if their jar is still got money, if no one want to withdraw it, they will keep betting it because if they win they still got 30% and that is not their money so I am sure they will still continue it