New Miner X5 on BitFury 16nm chips

[philipma1957]

Funny.

You guys all know that Bitmain will release something that destroys Bitfurys 16nm tech right?

They always have before and im sure it will be a mic drop again soon.

No one knows on them as they are not very public about things they work on, which makes sense as if they say we will have a new chip X date... sales drop on current gen.

We do know they listed another  batch of S7's so at least into march that is what they are making.  It's hard to say if/when they will have something new.  There has been no leaks or info to show they have a chip or will soon.

i agree. while i have been wondering what bitmain is working on i also remember, i think correctly, that we had with the s7---
----leaked rumors up to 7 months before hardwear in hands (s5+ and s7 talk)
----leaked tech info around 5 months ahead

so for no leaks (that i have seen) about new gen bitmain hardwear one has to wonder  ---
will they just DROP something?
will they use cheap power they have and mass setups to fight their battle with s7's?  is that even possible in this exahash stage?
oooo , excitting times
could get ugly or wonderful real quick.

o , and im on board with others here before me saying
"i'll believe it when it ain't just a rendering and words"  (and have btc waiting)

-watching

An old article with Jihan Wu of Bitmain clearly state they are going with 16nm this year.  ==> http://bitcoinist.net/exclusive-interview-jihan-wu-bitmain-s7-block-size-debate/

Do you think you will be moving down die size in 2016 as production costs come down, and improved quality at this level happens?

"Yes, we will be moving down to a 16 nanometer die size in 2016. 16 nanometer technology has come a long way in the past year, with lower costs and better yields."

The year of 2016 still has a lot of time left though..  He talks about lower costs.... I'm guessing S7 likely is perfected on cost lowest amount of chips high freq.  From cost I think S7 is cheaper then a new product for them.

I could be completely off base I just see S7 as being cheap currently for them on production.  Also I'm hoping it sticks with one freq/speed on new model whenever it is S7 had to many variants.

 

Worst case scenario is bitmaintech gets a string of 1 cent contracts for power and builds a ton of cheap s-7s

as the  s-7 burning .3watts  a gh   on  a 1 cent power contract beats a bit fury burning .1watts on a gh on four cent power.

This would mean skyrocketing hashrates for all.

Best case is bitmaintech and bitfury cut a deal. 

   Maybe bitfury supplies chips to them  and hash rates do not sky rocket.
I would love to know what goes on behind the  closed doors of both companies.

[bronxnua]

Say, that sounds an awful lot like something I'm working on.

Make it happen  Sidehack.. you got plenty of us that want it.

To support your efforts.

[notlist3d]

Say, that sounds an awful lot like something I'm working on.

Make it happen  Sidehack.. you got plenty of us that want it.

To support your efforts.

I think you missed some of the posts.  He is doing it - Community Miner Design Discussion   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368507.0

Kilo was great and let him post about it.  So it is a more open dev, which is always fun to watch.

[bronxnua]

Say, that sounds an awful lot like something I'm working on.

I have an S5 coming.. Sidehack you can sign me up for the upgrade

[bronxnua]

So replacing the control board also. That's a bit more logical.

I don't quite understand stealing a publicity render for a machine when, if you're modifying an S5, you could have taken a photo of an S5 and sketched new boards on to it for something a little more accurate and a little less shady.

Just picked up 2 S1's on ebay  to have them ready for this project.

[sidehack]

So now I guess it's a race, Gekkoscience et al versus miner.bz?

[bronxnua]

So now I guess it's a race, Gekkoscience et al versus miner.bz?

Rocky against Drago..   

[kilo17]

So now I guess it's a race, Gekkoscience et al versus miner.bz?

My BTC is on GekkoScience 

[sidehack]

May not be the earlier product, but I sincerely hope it's the better.

[jiannis78]

What day it's open to buy miner x5 ?

[fvineyard]

Very interested in this and when they will be available for purchase.. I have a couple of S3's ready for this.

- fvineyard

[mwizard]

What day it's open to buy miner x5 ?

Don't get too excited.  ukrcoin says that they hope to have a prototype by April. 

At this stage the X5 is just an idea. Not even a prototype.

[jstefanop]

I love how some random guy can come on here and post 5 lines about some vaporware, then get endorsed by bitfury, and people like sidehack and I, which have produced miners and have the support of the community can't even get access to a datasheet to make some miners bitfury knows we can make and will sell in the thousands.

Do these companies just love promoting scammers and companies that will end up screwing over the home miners once again?

[toptek]

So now I guess it's a race, Gekkoscience et al versus miner.bz?

 

Even if they come out with it first and it's real, most of us in the US will wait for you, because of the support and your based in the US, that a lone makes me wait till you offer it or have it done, i even have most of the founds or will for at least two sets of boards to start .

[Mitak]

I love how some random guy can come on here and post 5 lines about some vaporware, then get endorsed by bitfury, and people like sidehack and I, which have produced miners and have the support of the community can't even get access to a datasheet to make some miners bitfury knows we can make and will sell in the thousands.

Do these companies just love promoting scammers and companies that will end up screwing over the home miners once again?

I saw your hand populated scrypt usb flash somewhere, great job populating them by hand.
BUT Bitfury is a million corporation now with some VC funding , so they have to make money.
If this company have cash in terms of M of USD they will get info and support and chip supply before us .
I was part of a design team for a few projects and the feeling when you make it work for the first time is great .
May be there will be chance for this a few more times , may be not.
The romantic times of the Bitcoin ASIC miners are far behind.
There is still room for small developers , but we are not going to bring big cash flow , so we are behind in the priorities

[jstefanop]

Well if these guys have millions to spend you'd figure they have a least one marketing guy to write up a post longer than 5 lines...and maybe figure out how to put up a legit looking website...

[Mitak]

Do not get me wrong .
I do not vouch for this company and my personal opinion is that this is a vaporware too.
Just saying that it is not impossible when you have good amount of cash

[navigatrix]

Say, that sounds an awful lot like something I'm working on.

I have an S5 coming.. Sidehack you can sign me up for the upgrade

Yes, if we can upgrade S5's I'll hang on to mine a while longer. If you need a tester, Sidehack, I'm your gal.

[ukrcoin]

We dont make preorders.
We are studining demand and taking proposition of project.

[ukrcoin]

In this moment we:
- have datasheet of chip
- working with the engineer sample of chip Bitfury 16nm
- have finished elaboration of the board

http://radikal.ru/fp/ee37007580dc4da894ae71daf53f2427
http://radikal.ru/fp/e8e8d1e0db4549ec81d0ce7b9e6c943c