Boards that don't contribute to activity

[BitcoinEXpress]

You should consider making any post with a Sig Campaign not count towards activity.


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That isn't actually possible. You can't distinguish between when a user had a sig on or not and whether that sig is a campaign or not without going in and manually doing stuff.

Coding that would easy, especially in SMF.


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[The Sceptical Chymist]

Imho all other boards should contribute to activity.

 Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership.<snip>

I agree with this to an extent.  Date of registration sometimes means something, often times it doesn't.  There are so many old accounts in old threads that are still Jr. members because they've been abandoned.

As far as categories that shouldn't contribute, yeah games and rounds.  And I have to say, investor-based games is a haven for ponzi promoters and people who just post there for sig campaigns.  Almost like the lending section, but that section is mostly legit.

[dogie]

Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts.  I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.

I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.

[Zeke2345]

As much as OffTopic can be a breeding ground for spam, those same spammers would then turn to the bitcoin forum.
Games and rounds for sure should not count.

Been coming across a lot of posts that appear to be c/p and altered by one or two words. A spam rating might work better if we members clicked when we saw it. Would flag accounts for mods to check up on.
End off, any alteration will force it somewhere else.Wackamole!

[The Last Choice]

As much as OffTopic can be a breeding ground for spam, those same spammers would then turn to the bitcoin forum.
Games and rounds for sure should not count.

That's why we call it with "OUT OFF TOPIC" so people can say anything there 

[mexxer-2]

Well I wonder why no one has replied with the obvious candidate, the Press section. Most of the spammers there were banned but some still seem to post there for sig, repeatedly but just after a few other posts in other section to not seem as a spammer.

Another recommendation is Local board's offtopic section. While you're at it, might think about Politics and society and speculation. Seems like the new breeding grounds for "constructive"/Off-topic sig spammers.

Recommendations that I agree- Off-topic, Games and rounds(obvious choice) and Auction

And well digital goods do have constructive posts, they should not be "deleted"/not contribute to post count for the sake of a few spammers.

Edit: Also, don't the auto-sig bots take the posts from "Last posts" and discard the posts in non-paid sections? Pretty sure Bitmixer and Yobit won't change the script as their signature will still be displayed. Although this will stop a lot of potential activity farmers from making useless posts

[Avirunes]

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

It is a nice move to reduce signature spamming as most of the signature spammers hover always over there.
Also I think that there should be a specific rules that should be made which should be mandatory for every signature campaign to have.
Like posting constructive with atleast 70 character or whatever etc. What do you think?

[notlist3d]

As much as OffTopic can be a breeding ground for spam, those same spammers would then turn to the bitcoin forum.
Games and rounds for sure should not count.

That's why we call it with "OUT OFF TOPIC" so people can say anything there  

I love the idea of this.  Some  Games & Rounds are a ton of short little post's, it is horrible when you look  at some who frequent it.   It's obvious spamming on some.

Off Topic is hard I avoid it as so many crap posts.  If you can't do it for entire thread maybe mark certain threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551747.0 - 2700 tv recommendations... no way people read entire thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686828.0 - over 4k posts about Russian pictures.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105136.0 - 3.8 k of Asian girl thread

Those are just a few examples I would love to see off topic as a place that does not count.  Maybe say after 10 or 20 pages in offtopic posts don't count.  It's these huge threads that are just full of utter crap.

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signature, low quality/off-topic, and other kind of spammers can be handled by the mods. posting on the Games&Rounds board for giveaways or Auction board to bid is not against the rules so the mods mostly don't do anything about them. just do with those boards.

[tmfp]

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

It depends on the motivation behind the thinking for excluding certain boards.

This is a Bitcoin forum, advanced ranks based on activity should indicate that member's involvement in bitcoin.

There are posters of hero and legendary rank whose posting history is almost entirely off topic.
If activity was related to core coin subject input only i.e. excluding Off topic, Politics and Society and even Meta then any migration of spammers for sig or farming purposes to the "main reason for being here" boards could be dealt with as normal by the mods.
Some thought could also be put into the proliferation of 'opinion' threads which repeat the same theme time and again, "Is cloudmining etc etc", "Is bitcoin going up?" which are spammers' heaven.

That's if you accept that traffic falling is a price worth paying for credibility.

[capcher]

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

Ack. (am I doing this right?)

I think Micro Earnings would be a good candidate too (yes I do see the irony, considering that it is where I'm most active in).

Regarding off-topic, while there are some good posts once in a while, most of them are not. Perhaps a reduced rate? Like 0.1x or 0.2x? Not sure if that would make the calculation too complicated or not.

I also agree with tmfp that advancement in rank should be based on bitcoin-related forum activities.

[Lauda]

Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity.

Definitely a yes. Those posts do not deserve to be counted and are mostly what I'd classify as spam (or sig. spam).

Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

This is already a harder proposal. I've seen and took part of some decent discussions there, albeit they are mostly polluted with people that have signatures and do not read any previous replies.

Auction

I concur.

Might aswell include Lending in that list.

I concur.

[tmfp]

Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

This is already a harder proposal. I've seen and took part of some decent discussions there, albeit they are mostly polluted with people that have signatures and do not read any previous replies.

Surely that's an excellent reason for including it then?
If a genuine contributor wants to make a genuine Off Topic contribution, why would its not counting to activity make any difference?

[Lauda]

Surely that's an excellent reason for including it then?
If a genuine contributor wants to make a genuine Off Topic contribution, why would its not counting to activity make any difference?

Indeed. You make a very good point there. A genuine contributor would not care that much about his posts/activity not being counted; he would care more about the discussion itself. I believe that including off-topic will even significantly reduce the spam/account farming that has been going on there.

[capcher]

Indeed. You make a very good point there. A genuine contributor would not care that much about his posts/activity not being counted; he would care more about the discussion itself. I believe that including off-topic will even significantly reduce the spam/account farming that has been going on there.

You guys are optimistic. I foresee there would still be the same amount of spamming, except now there would also be a lot of people asking why their activity is not increasing.

[Lauda]

You guys are optimistic. I foresee there would still be the same amount of spamming, except that there would also be a lot of people asking why their activity is not increasing.

There wouldn't. People would be unable to farm accounts to higher 'levels' in these sections anymore. There are two likely outcomes:
1) They stop posting.
2) They try spamming other sections.

With the second case it will be easier to detect as contributing to other sections is significantly harder (i.e. you have to put in more time for a decent post).

[TookDk]

In case you implement that certain sections will not count as activity, will i then work retrospectively? - So previous activity earned in those section will be removed?
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.

[Erkallys]

Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts.  I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.

I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.

That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.

In case you implement that certain sections will not count as activity, will i then work retrospectively? - So previous activity earned in those section will be removed?
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.

I totally agree with that, but I don't think that it will be possible.

[Mickeyb]

If this was to stop potential account farmers, and people who later shit post to claim the potential activity from their newly bought account. Awesome job theymos

If this was to stop spam from yobit/bitmixer/betco/bit-x or any upcoming signature campaign participants, that uses Bot for managing campaigns. This won't work.
1) The bots use Last posts, to calculate post count and pay
2) They won't change it as they are getting their signatures displayed in those sections.
3) If they did want their participants to not spam, they'd rather block the sections themselves.

And this implementation will also have some downsides. Will this have a effect on past posts? I'm pretty sure most users will lose most of their activity. Also users like Xialla, many of the mods and current trusted members will downgrade to a lower rank

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Also i think post count should be given more weight over date of membership. I see legends with hardly any posts.  I can't how they are contributing more to the board than those that are active and posting daily.

I agree with this, increase the maximum potential activity per period (maybe 2-4x), and increase the member level requirements the same 2-4x.

That would be a big mess I think, because then all the Legendary members will no longer one, because their activity's value would have been decreased. However, if you multiply the actual aticivty, then everything is okay.

In case you implement that certain sections will not count as activity, will i then work retrospectively? - So previous activity earned in those section will be removed?
Or is it possible to make a cut-date, so from this day and forth will activity in the mentioned sections no longer count?
Personally I think the cut-date is the better choice, if possible.

I totally agree with that, but I don't think that it will be possible.

naw. any kind of change should affect everyone. old or new. else it wouldn't be fair for the new users (IMO).

also about the activity/rank requirement thing. unless I misunderstood something multiplying users' activity is the same as changing nothing.

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btw I am fully aware that 21% of my posts is on the Off-Topic board.