Boards that don't contribute to activity

[Heutenamos]

Why cant they simply elaborate the post in any of the threads  ?

I don't think I understand the question correctly. What do you mean?

If we are talking bout account farmers then they could simply make a long post or ask a question instead in any of the eligible sections. NO ?

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[Erkallys]

I prefer to exclude politics and society (& games and rounds)  and keep counting the other boards including off-topic (i think it is already heavily monitored so it shouldn't be a problem comparing to the previous months.)
Btw maybe a poll isn't a bad idea?

Why would we exclude Politics & society ? There's some interesting discussions that take place there. Most of them are well argumented and the posts there are qualitative.

[Lauda]

If we are talking bout account farmers then they could simply make a long post or ask a question instead in any of the eligible sections. NO ?

Sure they could. However, the number of posts that they could make would be very limited in comparison to other sections. Unless you think that it would not be obvious if someone asked an unusually high amount of questions via multiple threads/posts. Besides, one could always suggest them to use PM for further questions.

Why would we exclude Politics & society ? There's some interesting discussions that take place there. Most of them are well argumented and the posts there are qualitative.

I concur. Considering the suggested sections so far, Politics & Society seems the least likely candidate (quality wise).

[botany]

I prefer to exclude politics and society (& games and rounds)  and keep counting the other boards including off-topic (i think it is already heavily monitored so it shouldn't be a problem comparing to the previous months.)
Btw maybe a poll isn't a bad idea?

Why would we exclude Politics & society ? There's some interesting discussions that take place there. Most of them are well argumented and the posts there are qualitative.

I agree. There is nothing bitcoin related in this board, but that is no reason why we should exclude it.
And the amount of spam is also relatively less on this board.

[Heutenamos]

the number of posts that they could make would be very limited in comparison to other sections.

They only need one post,why give importance to the number ?

However, I think this is just useless cause 6 months from now there will be no account market and you will be able to buy a legendary for 0.05.This on an edge already.

[tmfp]

I prefer to exclude politics and society (& games and rounds)  and keep counting the other boards including off-topic (i think it is already heavily monitored so it shouldn't be a problem comparing to the previous months.)
Btw maybe a poll isn't a bad idea?

Why would we exclude Politics & society ? There's some interesting discussions that take place there. Most of them are well argumented and the posts there are qualitative.

You have a very low bar set to qualify for "well argumented" sic.

Politics and Society is a cesspool for serial POV pushers.
Currently a "legendary" member, who I have never seen post anything remotely on the subject of Bitcoin, has eight dubiously sourced and spun POV threads on the first page, sixteen on the first two pages.
 
Take a look thru the threads, the same names time and again pushing the same agendas.
If Theymos is happy to have his forum used as a stage for this continual propaganda, that's up to him.
If people want to talk round and round in ill informed circles on complex subjects they barely understand, that's fine too, but why should they collect activity rating for doing that on a Bitcoin forum when their activity has nothing to do with Bitcoin?

The names given as activity increases, 'Senior' 'Hero' 'Legendary' imply some meritorous aspect to it. How is endlessly creating threads and posting in off core topic threads in any way meritorious? 
What is the point of any activity rating if it doesn't refer to the core reason for this forum, Bitcoin?

[erikalui]

Games & Rounds and Off-topic would be fine to exclude from the list. I see many trolls in Politics section as well and they aren't really discussing about anything related to bitcoins which again makes it Off-Topic.

I don't think this would stop spammers as I've seen people just posting without a signature and not even chasing activity points. They just love trolling while others anyways don't get paid for the above mentioned sections.

[Erkallys]

the number of posts that they could make would be very limited in comparison to other sections.

They only need one post,why give importance to the number ?

However, I think this is just useless cause 6 months from now there will be no account market and you will be able to buy a legendary for 0.05.This on an edge already.

In 6 months there will have the halving, so maybe the signature campaigns will lower their payout, so that's sure that the price will get lower.

Games & Rounds and Off-topic would be fine to exclude from the list. I see many trolls in Politics section as well and they aren't really discussing about anything related to bitcoins which again makes it Off-Topic.

I don't think this would stop spammers as I've seen people just posting without a signature and not even chasing activity points. They just love trolling while others anyways don't get paid for the above mentioned sections.

If you think like that, then why not just delete these boards, since they're not Bitcoin-related ? Except Games and rounds, where there is something to say, and even, I would personnaly keep it, the other sections all have something interesting.

[Zeke2345]

I prefer to exclude politics and society (& games and rounds)  and keep counting the other boards including off-topic (i think it is already heavily monitored so it shouldn't be a problem comparing to the previous months.)
Btw maybe a poll isn't a bad idea?

Why would we exclude Politics & society ? There's some interesting discussions that take place there. Most of them are well argumented and the posts there are qualitative.

I agree. There is nothing bitcoin related in this board, but that is no reason why we should exclude it.
And the amount of spam is also relatively less on this board.

Seems to me that section is less spammy because people actually have to read quite a bit of information before making a post and that would point to two things. The spammers are non-English speaking or lazy and just want to type "yes" or "this is very interesting" and be done with it.

If you want to have bitcoin as the main focus and hyper hole it,you will miss the off shoots and creative ideas that are on the fringes.

[erikalui]

If you think like that, then why not just delete these boards, since they're not Bitcoin-related ? Except Games and rounds, where there is something to say, and even, I would personnaly keep it, the other sections all have something interesting.

I don't find the Politics & Off topic sections discussing anything interesting but wouldn't want these sections to be deleted as they must have been introduced so that members can contriubte something useful. Users chasing activity points and misusing these sections would stop to an extent if these sections don't add up any activity points.

[Erkallys]

If you think like that, then why not just delete these boards, since they're not Bitcoin-related ? Except Games and rounds, where there is something to say, and even, I would personnaly keep it, the other sections all have something interesting.

I don't find the Politics & Off topic sections discussing anything interesting but wouldn't want these sections to be deleted as they must have been introduced so that members can contriubte something useful. Users chasing activity points and misusing these sections would stop to an extent if these sections don't add up any activity points.

Some people does only posts to these sections, or a big part of their posts. Let's take bryan.coleman exemple. Is he considered as spammy ? He post a lot, maybe exclusively, in the Politics & society section. I'm not an expert of this section (I think that I even never posted there), it seems that like Meta, you can't spam like people do in the Games and rounds section.

Also, if we deleted the activity points given there, we would end up with ghost places, with no one in, because they would feel as excluded, and their contributions there would not be recognised.

[BitHodler]

Off-topic is definitely a section that should get excluded. That section is a brewery for account farmers.

[QuestionAuthority]

Anything in Off Topic and Politics & Society. Actually, since this is a "Bitcoin" forum, how about anything not relating to the discussion of Bitcoin.

Edit: I wanted to make sure it's understood I mean the altcoin section also. Everything in the master sections "Bitcoin", "Economy", and "Local" should count toward activity. Everything in the master sections "Other" and "Alternate Cryptocurriencies" should not count toward activity. This should also be retroactive, meaning anyone with current activity gained through posting in those two major sections should lose those activity points and their post counts should be reduced accordingly.

[hilariousandco]

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

When you say activity does that include post count as well? If so, Games and Rounds for sure. I was actually going to suggest we prohibit forum-based giveaways like we did with the alt coin section but this would be better. I would also vote for Off topic. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent discussion taking place in there but even good threads can quickly get swamped and taken over by spammers but this might actually improve discussion since spammers/farmers will hopefully leave it alone.

[Erkallys]

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

When you say activity does that include post count as well? If so, Games and Rounds for sure. I was actually going to suggest we prohibit forum-based giveaways like we did with the alt coin section but this would be better. I would also vote for Off topic. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent discussion taking place in there but even good threads can quickly get swamped and taken over by spammers but this might actually improve discussion since spammers/farmers will hopefully leave it alone.

I don't think that prohibiting forum based giveaways is a good idea. The giveaways are in bitcoins, so this still have his place. Removing the activity points from this section might finally be a good idea. I went there, and what I saw is panicking.

[Lutpin]

I don't think that prohibiting forum based giveaways is a good idea. The giveaways are in bitcoins, so this still have his place. Removing the activity points from this section might finally be a good idea. I went there, and what I saw is panicking.

Investor-based games is not one single bit better.
Nowadays, alomst every ponzi tries to attract investors with some kind of giveaways.
In those threads that don't have active giveaways running, you still see 5-10 people posting their addresses, begging for a tip to test the "program".

[Erkallys]

I don't think that prohibiting forum based giveaways is a good idea. The giveaways are in bitcoins, so this still have his place. Removing the activity points from this section might finally be a good idea. I went there, and what I saw is panicking.

Investor-based games is not one single bit better.
Nowadays, alomst every ponzi tries to attract investors with some kind of giveaways.
In those threads that don't have active giveaways running, you still see 5-10 people posting their addresses, begging for a tip to test the "program".

I don't know about this section since I did not went there for at least 6 months. From what I know, the betting sites organise prediction competitions (that I won yesterday by the way ) that we should keep. There's an obvious farming, but what about keeping them without any activity point ? Another problem come to my mind. The betting sites post half of their post in this section. Then, they would become something like Member while they were Sr. Member. I think that this should be taken in account.

[erikalui]

I'm thinking of making Games & Rounds not count toward posts or activity. What other boards would be good candidates for this? Maybe Off-topic, though some decent discussions occur there, so I'm not sure about that.

When you say activity does that include post count as well? If so, Games and Rounds for sure. I was actually going to suggest we prohibit forum-based giveaways like we did with the alt coin section but this would be better. I would also vote for Off topic. Can't remember the last time I saw a decent discussion taking place in there but even good threads can quickly get swamped and taken over by spammers but this might actually improve discussion since spammers/farmers will hopefully leave it alone.

Why prohibit giveaways? I don't think the giveaway threads should be considered spammy as users posts their bitcoin addresses to get tipped and some giveaway threads have discussions going on as well like Stunna's threads. That way even Auction and Lending sections have users just posting the template for loans/bids. It makes these sections also similar.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Why prohibit giveaways? I don't think the giveaway threads should be considered spammy as users posts their bitcoin addresses to get tipped and some giveaway threads have discussions going on as well like Stunna's threads. That way even Auction and Lending sections have users just posting the template for loans/bids. It makes these sections also similar.

Infact,giveaway's are the most spammy threads that should be taken care of.Have you seen 777COINS giveaway threads? Its the home for Potential Activity hunters.Literally have a look at it.What does give away posts usually have apart from a random digit and a bitcoin address/username ? Not constructive at all.Multiple accounts are made just to participate in the giveaway's with different address.I could talk more but this is just enough.

[tmfp]

Why prohibit giveaways?

No-one's prohibiting anything.
Theymos seems to be thinking about improving the integrity of the ranking system. People will still be able to post whatever crap they like (mods allowing), it just won't feed the spam/sig cycle if it doesn't increase their activity and account value.
There is no downside.