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February 19, 2016, 05:24:30 AM
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Hi,

 I made a transaction from my blockchain mobile app. and no miner fee was included, now its stuck unconfirmed for over 10 hours.

https://blockchain.info/tx/04de92f87ee43127b5a878c7167f12f4479b4341989385a9d1477e6b289b47f0

Is there a way to cancel and resend with a miners fee? Any help anyone?

Thanks.
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February 19, 2016, 05:51:34 AM
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Not sure exact timeframe but I believe it should not be sent and is noticed by blockchain and goes back (been a while since I read one of these).  So you should be able to wait if I remember right.

Other option is preforming a double spend.   You can look it up but you need to send with fee's especially that big of transaction.
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February 19, 2016, 05:59:38 AM
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Hi,

 I made a transaction from my blockchain mobile app. and no miner fee was included, now its stuck unconfirmed for over 10 hours.

https://blockchain.info/tx/04de92f87ee43127b5a878c7167f12f4479b4341989385a9d1477e6b289b47f0

Is there a way to cancel and resend with a miners fee? Any help anyone?

Thanks.

It will take time as you paid without mining fees,so some miners will not accept it.All myou can do is wait to get it confirmed.
If it still reamins unconfirmed for 3-4 days,the transaction will be removed from most of the clients and you can try up again.
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February 19, 2016, 06:05:51 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
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February 19, 2016, 06:09:11 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.
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February 19, 2016, 06:12:31 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.

Sorry, you are right, you said that.  I was just thinking that there may be an easier way to push the double tap from a downloaded wallet.  I cannot even imagine getting into the Android handling.  There is no such thing as a "debug" or "console" in the that mobile app is there?
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February 19, 2016, 06:26:35 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.

Sorry, you are right, you said that.  I was just thinking that there may be an easier way to push the double tap from a downloaded wallet.  I cannot even imagine getting into the Android handling.  There is no such thing as a "debug" or "console" in the that mobile app is there?

You cannot double spend via blockchain I don't think on computer or mobile app.  He would have to go to another client and import... again add that it's a pain.

Unless you need it within next X hours/few day's I would just wait and count it as a lesson.  Next time make sure to send with fee.
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February 19, 2016, 06:27:26 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.

Sorry, you are right, you said that.  I was just thinking that there may be an easier way to push the double tap from a downloaded wallet.  I cannot even imagine getting into the Android handling.  There is no such thing as a "debug" or "console" in the that mobile app is there?
There's no option to debug the app or such thing. Timeframe is getting unnecessarily weird. And the app never gave me the option whether to include a fee or not.
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February 19, 2016, 06:28:34 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.

Sorry, you are right, you said that.  I was just thinking that there may be an easier way to push the double tap from a downloaded wallet.  I cannot even imagine getting into the Android handling.  There is no such thing as a "debug" or "console" in the that mobile app is there?

You cannot double spend via blockchain I don't think on computer or mobile app.  He would have to go to another client and import... again add that it's a pain.

Unless you need it within next X hours/few day's I would just wait and count it as a lesson.  Next time make sure to send with fee.
When sending from the mobile app there was no option to include a fee.
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February 19, 2016, 06:30:50 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.

Sorry, you are right, you said that.  I was just thinking that there may be an easier way to push the double tap from a downloaded wallet.  I cannot even imagine getting into the Android handling.  There is no such thing as a "debug" or "console" in the that mobile app is there?
There's no option to debug the app or such thing. Timeframe is getting unnecessarily weird. And the app never gave me the option whether to include a fee or not.

I did not mean debugging the app.  In a software wallet there is usually an option to open a console window.  It is where you set some options like "setgenerate true" to start the wallet mining.  Through the console you can do the same things the GUI does, basically sending commands to the Bitcoin daemon.  I have not done it in a while but something to the effect of "send 16.5 " followed by the address or something like that.  
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February 19, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.

Sorry, you are right, you said that.  I was just thinking that there may be an easier way to push the double tap from a downloaded wallet.  I cannot even imagine getting into the Android handling.  There is no such thing as a "debug" or "console" in the that mobile app is there?

You cannot double spend via blockchain I don't think on computer or mobile app.  He would have to go to another client and import... again add that it's a pain.

Unless you need it within next X hours/few day's I would just wait and count it as a lesson.  Next time make sure to send with fee.
When sending from the mobile app there was no option to include a fee.

i found this as well. i emailed them to fix it but they responded the app should pick the fee it decides is best..

right now the lowest fee you want to send is .00025

if your tx doesnt get confirmed for 48 hours the bitcoins go back into your wallet.

you didnt lose anything.. dont worry.

unless you are the receiver of those bitcoins and you sold something.. :/
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February 19, 2016, 10:25:26 AM
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Without trying to tap that same amount twice, and that is a pain in the ass, you have to wait.  There is just no way around it.  Did you spend from a software or online wallet?
Spent from my blockchain mobile app.

Sorry, you are right, you said that.  I was just thinking that there may be an easier way to push the double tap from a downloaded wallet.  I cannot even imagine getting into the Android handling.  There is no such thing as a "debug" or "console" in the that mobile app is there?

You cannot double spend via blockchain I don't think on computer or mobile app.  He would have to go to another client and import... again add that it's a pain.

Unless you need it within next X hours/few day's I would just wait and count it as a lesson.  Next time make sure to send with fee.
When sending from the mobile app there was no option to include a fee.

i found this as well. i emailed them to fix it but they responded the app should pick the fee it decides is best..

right now the lowest fee you want to send is .00025

if your tx doesnt get confirmed for 48 hours the bitcoins go back into your wallet.

you didnt lose anything.. dont worry.

unless you are the receiver of those bitcoins and you sold something.. :/

The question still remains. How do one get the app to include a fee? There's obviously no option for that.
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February 19, 2016, 10:59:36 AM
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The question still remains. How do one get the app to include a fee? There's obviously no option for that.

there is no way.. as i said before.. contact support and make a request.

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February 19, 2016, 11:50:39 AM
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The question still remains. How do one get the app to include a fee? There's obviously no option for that.

there is no way.. as i said before.. contact support and make a request.


I have reached out to blockchain support, but they seem to have this pre-defined response.
"Jade (Blockchain)
Feb 18, 23:53

Hello,

An unconfirmed transaction will eventually be accepted into a block by whichever mining pool mines the block, or the transaction will eventually be rejected by the bitcoin network after an estimated one to seven days. If it eventually is rejected, then the funds would remain at the bitcoin address they were sent from. The only thing you can do at this point is to wait and see if the transaction is accepted into a block. Like all wallet providers, Blockchain.info has absolutely no control over this, and cannot expedite transactions. This is always dependent upon the bitcoin network of miners, of which we are not a part of.

You can read more on how transaction confirmations work via the following link - http://blog.blockchain.com/2014/10/29/quick-bit-understanding-bitcoin-transaction-fees/. The bitcoin wiki also has a useful section on transaction fees - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees. Blockchain.info does not charge users for sending transactions. These fees are collected by the mining network."
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February 19, 2016, 12:01:10 PM
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I would advice against using Blockchain.info for anything. Blockchain.info are known for having a bad support and software. Your transaction have a relatively small size and a huge output amount, thus having a high priority. Your transaction could confirm within a day if the miners have seen it. To do so, you can proporgate the transaction periodically using this raw TX
Code:
 0100000001ef1dd2373d672d11c0f79abbe472a936f3cfbd3a3aa840d862b9c4dbf96a0e2e050000006b483045022100a5d5867004b6ed4280b7950d5773d5fdb7eee2fb815ab637a68993f052e74a06022033e736f27d2ad68319ce55f90c095dd47363ea6a3773912105de8911d2cc03910121031b9877838a24499e93e976bfc1d7cad7d841ba7a07dd60aa6d5efcdc5bf11252ffffffff0180005962000000001976a914bd17aec816b29fd61b7ad2043710140546bf677288ac00000000
and use coinb.in/#broadcast to rebroadcast the TX.

Generally, the mempool would drop your transaction after a day of two of it being unconfirmed and you can spend it without issues again. That will happen if the client by default do not rebroadcast or a third party. That being said, most miners still do have a choice to maximize their revenue and avoid having blocks with too much no fee TXes as much as possible.

Your priority is: 902,343,750. It is a very high number IMO.

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February 19, 2016, 12:08:31 PM
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I would advice against using Blockchain.info for anything. Blockchain.info are known for having a bad support and software. Your transaction have a relatively small size and a huge output amount, thus having a high priority. Your transaction could confirm within a day if the miners have seen it. To do so, you can proporgate the transaction periodically using this raw TX
Code:
 0100000001ef1dd2373d672d11c0f79abbe472a936f3cfbd3a3aa840d862b9c4dbf96a0e2e050000006b483045022100a5d5867004b6ed4280b7950d5773d5fdb7eee2fb815ab637a68993f052e74a06022033e736f27d2ad68319ce55f90c095dd47363ea6a3773912105de8911d2cc03910121031b9877838a24499e93e976bfc1d7cad7d841ba7a07dd60aa6d5efcdc5bf11252ffffffff0180005962000000001976a914bd17aec816b29fd61b7ad2043710140546bf677288ac00000000
and use coinb.in/#broadcast to rebroadcast the TX.

Generally, the mempool would drop your transaction after a day of two of it being unconfirmed and you can spend it without issues again. That will happen if the client by default do not rebroadcast or a third party. That being said, most miners still do have a choice to maximize their revenue and avoid having blocks with too much no fee TXes as much as possible.

Your priority is: 902,343,750. It is a very high number IMO.
Lesson learnt in a hard way. Tried re-broadcasting it, shows me the txid. Does that mean it's being re-broadcasted? Cos I tried with other pushtx sites and it says transaction already exists.

This whole thing is getting to me today.
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February 19, 2016, 12:28:54 PM
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I would advice against using Blockchain.info for anything. Blockchain.info are known for having a bad support and software. Your transaction have a relatively small size and a huge output amount, thus having a high priority. Your transaction could confirm within a day if the miners have seen it. To do so, you can proporgate the transaction periodically using this raw TX
Code:
 0100000001ef1dd2373d672d11c0f79abbe472a936f3cfbd3a3aa840d862b9c4dbf96a0e2e050000006b483045022100a5d5867004b6ed4280b7950d5773d5fdb7eee2fb815ab637a68993f052e74a06022033e736f27d2ad68319ce55f90c095dd47363ea6a3773912105de8911d2cc03910121031b9877838a24499e93e976bfc1d7cad7d841ba7a07dd60aa6d5efcdc5bf11252ffffffff0180005962000000001976a914bd17aec816b29fd61b7ad2043710140546bf677288ac00000000
and use coinb.in/#broadcast to rebroadcast the TX.

Generally, the mempool would drop your transaction after a day of two of it being unconfirmed and you can spend it without issues again. That will happen if the client by default do not rebroadcast or a third party. That being said, most miners still do have a choice to maximize their revenue and avoid having blocks with too much no fee TXes as much as possible.

Your priority is: 902,343,750. It is a very high number IMO.
How did you get to see my priority?
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February 19, 2016, 12:34:15 PM
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I would advice against using Blockchain.info for anything. Blockchain.info are known for having a bad support and software. Your transaction have a relatively small size and a huge output amount, thus having a high priority. Your transaction could confirm within a day if the miners have seen it. To do so, you can proporgate the transaction periodically using this raw TX
Code:
 0100000001ef1dd2373d672d11c0f79abbe472a936f3cfbd3a3aa840d862b9c4dbf96a0e2e050000006b483045022100a5d5867004b6ed4280b7950d5773d5fdb7eee2fb815ab637a68993f052e74a06022033e736f27d2ad68319ce55f90c095dd47363ea6a3773912105de8911d2cc03910121031b9877838a24499e93e976bfc1d7cad7d841ba7a07dd60aa6d5efcdc5bf11252ffffffff0180005962000000001976a914bd17aec816b29fd61b7ad2043710140546bf677288ac00000000
and use coinb.in/#broadcast to rebroadcast the TX.

Generally, the mempool would drop your transaction after a day of two of it being unconfirmed and you can spend it without issues again. That will happen if the client by default do not rebroadcast or a third party. That being said, most miners still do have a choice to maximize their revenue and avoid having blocks with too much no fee TXes as much as possible.

Your priority is: 902,343,750. It is a very high number IMO.
Lesson learnt in a hard way. Tried re-broadcasting it, shows me the txid. Does that mean it's being re-broadcasted? Cos I tried with other pushtx sites and it says transaction already exists.

This whole thing is getting to me today.
It is rebroadcasted. If you want it urgently, you need to contact a mining pool owner to help you mine it for a small fee.
How did you get to see my priority?
This is the calculation formula: priority = (Amount of input in satoshi * amount of confirmations)/size_in_bytes.

It won't matter for paid transaction most of the time but it matters a lot for free transaction. Only with a high priority, nodes would proporgate your transactions. The higher your priority, the more likely miners would consider to include it first. Miners can choose their own transactions to include however.

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February 19, 2016, 12:47:21 PM
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I would advice against using Blockchain.info for anything. Blockchain.info are known for having a bad support and software. Your transaction have a relatively small size and a huge output amount, thus having a high priority. Your transaction could confirm within a day if the miners have seen it. To do so, you can proporgate the transaction periodically using this raw TX
Code:
 0100000001ef1dd2373d672d11c0f79abbe472a936f3cfbd3a3aa840d862b9c4dbf96a0e2e050000006b483045022100a5d5867004b6ed4280b7950d5773d5fdb7eee2fb815ab637a68993f052e74a06022033e736f27d2ad68319ce55f90c095dd47363ea6a3773912105de8911d2cc03910121031b9877838a24499e93e976bfc1d7cad7d841ba7a07dd60aa6d5efcdc5bf11252ffffffff0180005962000000001976a914bd17aec816b29fd61b7ad2043710140546bf677288ac00000000
and use coinb.in/#broadcast to rebroadcast the TX.

Generally, the mempool would drop your transaction after a day of two of it being unconfirmed and you can spend it without issues again. That will happen if the client by default do not rebroadcast or a third party. That being said, most miners still do have a choice to maximize their revenue and avoid having blocks with too much no fee TXes as much as possible.

Your priority is: 902,343,750. It is a very high number IMO.
Lesson learnt in a hard way. Tried re-broadcasting it, shows me the txid. Does that mean it's being re-broadcasted? Cos I tried with other pushtx sites and it says transaction already exists.

This whole thing is getting to me today.
It is rebroadcasted. If you want it urgently, you need to contact a mining pool owner to help you mine it for a small fee.
How did you get to see my priority?
This is the calculation formula: priority = (Amount of input in satoshi * amount of confirmations)/size_in_bytes.

It won't matter for paid transaction most of the time but it matters a lot for free transaction. Only with a high priority, nodes would proporgate your transactions. The higher your priority, the more likely miners would consider to include it first. Miners can choose their own transactions to include however.
Oh thanks. You know any mining pool operator? I tried reaching out to Luke-Jr of eligius but no response yet.
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February 19, 2016, 01:02:17 PM
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I would advice against using Blockchain.info for anything. Blockchain.info are known for having a bad support and software. Your transaction have a relatively small size and a huge output amount, thus having a high priority. Your transaction could confirm within a day if the miners have seen it. To do so, you can proporgate the transaction periodically using this raw TX
Code:
 0100000001ef1dd2373d672d11c0f79abbe472a936f3cfbd3a3aa840d862b9c4dbf96a0e2e050000006b483045022100a5d5867004b6ed4280b7950d5773d5fdb7eee2fb815ab637a68993f052e74a06022033e736f27d2ad68319ce55f90c095dd47363ea6a3773912105de8911d2cc03910121031b9877838a24499e93e976bfc1d7cad7d841ba7a07dd60aa6d5efcdc5bf11252ffffffff0180005962000000001976a914bd17aec816b29fd61b7ad2043710140546bf677288ac00000000
and use coinb.in/#broadcast to rebroadcast the TX.

Generally, the mempool would drop your transaction after a day of two of it being unconfirmed and you can spend it without issues again. That will happen if the client by default do not rebroadcast or a third party. That being said, most miners still do have a choice to maximize their revenue and avoid having blocks with too much no fee TXes as much as possible.

Your priority is: 902,343,750. It is a very high number IMO.
Lesson learnt in a hard way. Tried re-broadcasting it, shows me the txid. Does that mean it's being re-broadcasted? Cos I tried with other pushtx sites and it says transaction already exists.

This whole thing is getting to me today.
It is rebroadcasted. If you want it urgently, you need to contact a mining pool owner to help you mine it for a small fee.
How did you get to see my priority?
This is the calculation formula: priority = (Amount of input in satoshi * amount of confirmations)/size_in_bytes.

It won't matter for paid transaction most of the time but it matters a lot for free transaction. Only with a high priority, nodes would proporgate your transactions. The higher your priority, the more likely miners would consider to include it first. Miners can choose their own transactions to include however.
Oh thanks. You know any mining pool operator? I tried reaching out to Luke-Jr of eligius but no response yet.
Macbook-air(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=16114) owns f2pool and has helped some users here to mine TXes for them. I can't make any guarantees though.

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