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I think the number of available bitcoins is increasing, because there are many miners out there. And if bitcoins decreasing i think it will affect the price of bitcoins.
People talking about bitcoins that idle on wallets of people who wont use it. But bitcoins mining everyday and we have a good stock of bitcoins now so no need to panic ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes, there are many miners but I do not know that if many of people lose their bitcoin as a result of damage of their offline wallet or events such as dying or losing online wallet account, password, what happens to available bitcoin?
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April 19, 2016, 10:10:56 PM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
for sure there are bitcoins being lost every day. idk if the amount being lost is greater than the amount being mined. imo i dont think it is. but in the future the overall number of bitcoins is only going to go down which is why many people invest in bitcoin.
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April 20, 2016, 02:44:16 AM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
for sure there are bitcoins being lost every day. idk if the amount being lost is greater than the amount being mined. imo i dont think it is. but in the future the overall number of bitcoins is only going to go down which is why many people invest in bitcoin. Roughly 3600 btc mined every day, so no, the amount of lost coins every day isn't even close to comparable to the number of newly created coins.
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April 20, 2016, 06:57:10 AM |
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And then there are/will be those who die before having passed on their wallets/private keys to their surviving family members/heirs. Imagine having any significant amount of bitcoins stored anywhere and then unexpectedly dying in a car accident and no way for your family or whoever you would have wanted to have you bitcoins to gain access to them.
Make sure your loved ones will be able to access your bitcoins in the event you pass away.
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April 20, 2016, 06:59:47 AM |
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I think that "lost coins" are only dust in actual btc environment.... Ok in a long terms there are many and many people that are going to lost priv key, access to online account, wrong address etc... But as a total of 1% of total coins we can lost or more? Well this sums is worthless even....
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April 21, 2016, 09:08:35 PM |
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I think that "lost coins" are only dust in actual btc environment.... Ok in a long terms there are many and many people that are going to lost priv key, access to online account, wrong address etc... But as a total of 1% of total coins we can lost or more? Well this sums is worthless even....
And do you think that what percentage of current will be added to bitcoin environment and changes total balance of bitcoin.
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April 22, 2016, 06:23:39 AM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
for sure there are bitcoins being lost every day. idk if the amount being lost is greater than the amount being mined. imo i dont think it is. but in the future the overall number of bitcoins is only going to go down which is why many people invest in bitcoin. Roughly 3600 btc mined every day, so no, the amount of lost coins every day isn't even close to comparable to the number of newly created coins. While it's true that bitcoins lost everyday is less compared to newly mined ones, it is still something. If you look at the total value of total bitcoins lost already, it's already a staggering $700+ million worth of bitcoins (according to my research, that is). That's really something.
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April 22, 2016, 07:52:49 AM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
for sure there are bitcoins being lost every day. idk if the amount being lost is greater than the amount being mined. imo i dont think it is. but in the future the overall number of bitcoins is only going to go down which is why many people invest in bitcoin. Roughly 3600 btc mined every day, so no, the amount of lost coins every day isn't even close to comparable to the number of newly created coins. While it's true that bitcoins lost everyday is less compared to newly mined ones, it is still something. If you look at the total value of total bitcoins lost already, it's already a staggering $700+ million worth of bitcoins (according to my research, that is). That's really something. Yeah very true as many as miners the quantity of bitcoin is decreasing year by year and thats a very bad news for miners because the difficulty of it will be higher and small profit will be gain for mining and for this halving coming specalution of less volume of bitcoin and it will decreased again but the price will up maybe 700$-1000$.
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April 22, 2016, 08:10:33 AM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
for sure there are bitcoins being lost every day. idk if the amount being lost is greater than the amount being mined. imo i dont think it is. but in the future the overall number of bitcoins is only going to go down which is why many people invest in bitcoin. Roughly 3600 btc mined every day, so no, the amount of lost coins every day isn't even close to comparable to the number of newly created coins. Exactly! And even if the number of the lost coins were greater so what? How this can be a bad thing or something that put Bitcoin in danger? I think even if half of the coins existed were lost Bitcoin would still function normally as it is now.
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April 22, 2016, 01:17:12 PM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
for sure there are bitcoins being lost every day. idk if the amount being lost is greater than the amount being mined. imo i dont think it is. but in the future the overall number of bitcoins is only going to go down which is why many people invest in bitcoin. Roughly 3600 btc mined every day, so no, the amount of lost coins every day isn't even close to comparable to the number of newly created coins. Exactly! And even if the number of the lost coins were greater so what? How this can be a bad thing or something that put Bitcoin in danger? I think even if half of the coins existed were lost Bitcoin would still function normally as it is now. Yeah it runs based on the technology without considering the mined coins. At the same the circulation of bitcoin is surely affected or reduced. This will have some impact over the bitcoin price.
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April 23, 2016, 08:27:13 PM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
for sure there are bitcoins being lost every day. idk if the amount being lost is greater than the amount being mined. imo i dont think it is. but in the future the overall number of bitcoins is only going to go down which is why many people invest in bitcoin. Roughly 3600 btc mined every day, so no, the amount of lost coins every day isn't even close to comparable to the number of newly created coins. Exactly! And even if the number of the lost coins were greater so what? How this can be a bad thing or something that put Bitcoin in danger? I think even if half of the coins existed were lost Bitcoin would still function normally as it is now. Yeah it runs based on the technology without considering the mined coins. At the same the circulation of bitcoin is surely affected or reduced. This will have some impact over the bitcoin price. I think the percentage of circulation will increase in the future. That is because more people will use it.
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April 23, 2016, 09:20:19 PM |
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I think the number of available bitcoins is increasing, because there are many miners out there. And if bitcoins decreasing i think it will affect the price of bitcoins.
Bitcoin will never deacreasing cause of miners it's ture. But a lot of people are holding bitcoins and it's a problem what nobody can solve. Everyone want more money. Let's set the record straight here. The total number of bitcoins produced by miners is determined by a fixed schedule. It does not depend on the number of miners or the hash rate or the difficulty. According to the schedule, the number of bitcoins produced decreases every 210,000 blocks until at some point no more bitcoins are produced. However, bitcoins are also constantly being lost by people losing their private keys. The question is when will people be losing bitcoins faster than they are produced by miners. if that's correct, the number of bitcoin produced decreases every 210,000 it means someday the price of bitcoin will soar higher than we've ever seen. I wasn't aware of this. So what you are saying is that eventually mining for it will be pointless? It will decrease to a point that it will take a year to mine just 1 bitcoin.
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April 24, 2016, 01:43:56 AM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
most people won't lose their bitcoin, i doubt the amount of bitcoin lost is anywhere near the amount of bitcoin mined. And for the next couple of decades it will remain that way.
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April 24, 2016, 08:09:26 AM |
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I think the number of available bitcoins is increasing, because there are many miners out there. And if bitcoins decreasing i think it will affect the price of bitcoins.
People talking about bitcoins that idle on wallets of people who wont use it. But bitcoins mining everyday and we have a good stock of bitcoins now so no need to panic ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There is no need to panic since there are many bitcoin out in the market and we are still not half way of the bitcoin that is needed to be collected. And even if the number of bitcoins diminishes as long as the demand increase it is fine. The value of bitcoin will grow and that is our target. To have a very high price bitcoin and enjoy it.
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April 24, 2016, 08:14:20 AM |
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Id say at very best we are going to be limited to at most 20 million bitcoins if satochis really are lost. Even if his arent there have been a good few lost along the way and more will be lost still. As others have said, its good for everyone else as it should push price up due to demand.
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April 24, 2016, 12:23:21 PM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
most people won't lose their bitcoin, i doubt the amount of bitcoin lost is anywhere near the amount of bitcoin mined. And for the next couple of decades it will remain that way. None of the user loses their hardly earned bitcoin in any critical situation. As every user has several wallet some might have got accumulated in some wallet which has been used rarely.
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April 24, 2016, 01:35:44 PM |
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I think the number of bitcoin is increasing because there is a miner that mine bitcoin so it is increasing, but other says it decreasing, by forgotting their password in their bitcoin wallet, but i think that coin is not called decrease i think we can get them back by requesting in the site that your wallet is hacked or you forgot your pass you can get your btc again.
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April 24, 2016, 08:25:04 PM |
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Let me explain. Bitcoins are constantly being created (mined) but bitcoins are constantly being lost also. The number of bitcoins created per year is decreasing (by design) and we could assume that the number of bitcoins lost keeps increasing every year. If this is true, then at some point the total number of bitcoins available (not lost) would decease because more are being lost than being created. If it hasn't started happening yet, it will sometime in the future.
most people won't lose their bitcoin, i doubt the amount of bitcoin lost is anywhere near the amount of bitcoin mined. And for the next couple of decades it will remain that way. None of the user loses their hardly earned bitcoin in any critical situation. As every user has several wallet some might have got accumulated in some wallet which has been used rarely. I beg to disagree that someday, the number of bitcoins lost will be more than the number of bitcoins mined as there is a continuous increase in both. The number of bitcoins lost per day is dust compared to the number of bitcoins mined. However if you are saying that the "lost" bitcoins are those that are accumulated and being held into an unused wallet, I wouldn't consider those "lost" just yet as it still exists, only that it doesn't undergo any transaction.
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April 24, 2016, 08:27:20 PM |
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I think the number of bitcoin is increasing because there is a miner that mine bitcoin so it is increasing, but other says it decreasing, by forgotting their password in their bitcoin wallet, but i think that coin is not called decrease i think we can get them back by requesting in the site that your wallet is hacked or you forgot your pass you can get your btc again.
No one can get bitcoins back if you have a paper wallet and lose the private key or you die and no one knows the private key. So some bitcoins are lost forever. Also people make mistakes by sending bitcoins to the wrong address that no one owns. Those are also permanently lost. I'm sure that in the early years when bitcoins weren't worth much, there were a lot that were lost.
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April 26, 2016, 08:55:10 AM |
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Id say at very best we are going to be limited to at most 20 million bitcoins if satochis really are lost. Even if his arent there have been a good few lost along the way and more will be lost still. As others have said, its good for everyone else as it should push price up due to demand.
That is true. With that very low count of coins I guess it will be better if its price is higher. The much rare of it the much value or price right? Then when it is all depleted then circulation of coins will come.
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