Who wrote the Bible?

[af_newbie]

I always wondered about the historical roots of the books in the Bible.  

Who wrote the books of the Bible?  When were they written?  Why someone wrote them?

Were they inspired by God?

Wikipedia does not list the author(s):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_the_Bible

It seems weird that 2 billion people in the world follow this book but nobody knows who wrote it.

Comparison of Genesis' first Creation Story with Enuma Elish, a Babylonian creation story

The Babylonian creation story is called by its first two words "Enuma Elish."
According to archaeologists, it was originally written circa 1120 BCE.

It was discovered in 1875 CE. It bears many points of similarity to the first creation story
in the Bible:

Item	Ancient Israelite Creation Story	Babylonian Creation Story
-------------------------------	-------------------------------	-------------------------------
Source	Genesis 1:1 to 2:3	Enuma Elish
Date of writing (liberal belief)	8th or 9th century BCE	Late 12th century BCE
Date of writing (conservative belief)	13th century BCE, the time of Moses	Late 12th century BCE.
Author (liberal belief)	"P," authors of the Priestly tradition.	Unknown.
Author (conservative belief)	Moses.	Unknown.
Creator(s) of the universe	Multiple Gods, Elohim.	A God battling a Goddess.
Initial state of the earth	Desolate waste; covered in darkness.	Chaos; enveloped in darkness.
First development	Light created.	Light created.
Next development	Firmament created - a rigid dome over the earth separating the earth and heaven.	Firmament created; also perceived as a rigid dome.
Next development	Dry land created.	Dry land created.
Next development	Sun, moon, stars created.	Sun, moon, stars created.
Next development	Creation of men and women.	Creation of men and women.
Final development	God rests and sanctify the Sabbath.	Gods rest and celebrate.

source:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/com_geba.htm

According to Christian History, the Earth is 7330 years old. Bible (66 books) was written by 40 writers over 1400 years period.

source: http://www.bible.ca/b-bible-timeline-religious-history.htm

Some disturbing verses from it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

[BADecker]

The "why" part is easy. John 20:30,31 says:

Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

To find the best ideas of the "who" part, Google "Who wrote the Bible?"

[Moloch]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_the_Bible

The Pentateuch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahwist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuteronomist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_source



The gospels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel#Dating
    Mark: c. 68–73, c. 65–70.
    Matthew: c. 70–100, c. 80–85.
    Luke: c. 80–100, with most arguing for somewhere around 85, c. 80–85.
    John: c. 90–100, c. 90–110, The majority view is that it was written in stages, so there was no one date of composition.

Bear in mind that Jesus died when he was 33(?)... and the average lifespan at the time was around 30 years... so anyone writing ~100CE was not an eye-witness (John, Luke, Matthew)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_Gospels#The_synoptic_problem




I hope this clears everything up for you

[BADecker]

The "why" part is easy. John 20:30,31 says:

Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

To find the best ideas of the "who" part, Google "Who wrote the Bible?"

I was thinking about the Old Testament, like the creation story etc.

Unfortunately, we have no idea who wrote the creation story originally. The structure of the written form suggests greatly that it was copied by Moses rather than written by him.

Moses had access to lots of historical material in his position as "adopted" prince of Egypt. And, according to what he wrote in the Bible, he knew that he was a Hebrew.

There are those Bible scholars who think that Adam, or someone who talked with Adam, was the one who actually wrote the first 2 chapters of the Bible that Moses copied over. But, nobody knows for sure... at least that it is public knowledge. Nobody knows what literature the Vatican Library might have in its possession.

[af_newbie]

I interested in the first few books, as the rest is the same nonsense.

Wiki says:

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers[edit]
From the late 19th century there was a general consensus among scholars around the documentary hypothesis, which suggests that the first four books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers) were created c.450 BCE by combining four originally independent sources, known as the Jahwist, the Elohist, the Deuteronomist, and the Priestly source.[9] This approach has since seen various revisions,[10] yet while the identification of distinctive Deuteronomistic and Priestly theologies and vocabularies remains widespread, they are used to form new approaches suggesting that the books were combined gradually over time by the slow accumulation of "fragments" of text, or that a basic text was "supplemented" by later authors/editors.[11] At the same time there has been a tendency to bring the origins of the Pentateuch further forward in time, and the most recent proposals place it in 5th century Judah under the Persian empire.[12]

I'm really interested what are these four sources above.  Who combined it together?

It is clear it was all made up by people.  I'm more interested in who did this.

[BADecker]

I interested in the first few books, as the rest is the same nonsense.

Wiki says:

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers[edit]
From the late 19th century there was a general consensus among scholars around the documentary hypothesis, which suggests that the first four books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers) were created c.450 BCE by combining four originally independent sources, known as the Jahwist, the Elohist, the Deuteronomist, and the Priestly source.[9] This approach has since seen various revisions,[10] yet while the identification of distinctive Deuteronomistic and Priestly theologies and vocabularies remains widespread, they are used to form new approaches suggesting that the books were combined gradually over time by the slow accumulation of "fragments" of text, or that a basic text was "supplemented" by later authors/editors.[11] At the same time there has been a tendency to bring the origins of the Pentateuch further forward in time, and the most recent proposals place it in 5th century Judah under the Persian empire.[12]

I'm really interested what are these four sources above.  Who combined it together?

It is clear it was all made up by people.  I'm more interested in who did this.

Some answers might be found in the what we know about the ancient cities of Ugarit and Byblos.

[criptix]

You guys should check out the sumerian mythology/religion.

A lot of our world religions have their roots in their.
Creation of the world and men, paradies, great flood and so on.

This is also no surprise because usually if a new dominant religion is emerging the old one will be partly assimilated to make the transition as smooth as possible.

[BADecker]

You guys should check out the sumerian mythology/religion.

A lot of our world religions have their roots in their.
Creation of the world and men, paradies, great flood and so on.

This is also no surprise because usually if a new dominant religion is emerging the old one will be partly assimilated to make the transition as smooth as possible.

The thing that brought Sumer and her contemporaries down is the fact that they had turned to believing in many false gods. This is the thing that got them destroyed by the One Great God in the Great Flood of Noah's day.

[Moloch]

You guys should check out the sumerian mythology/religion.

A lot of our world religions have their roots in their.
Creation of the world and men, paradies, great flood and so on.

This is also no surprise because usually if a new dominant religion is emerging the old one will be partly assimilated to make the transition as smooth as possible.

Christians would be surprised if they read the bible and the Sumerian texts... it would blow their minds...

Christians copied their entire tradition from somewhere... the texts are stolen from Sumerian and Jewish, the dates and festivals they stole are Germanic pagan...


December 25 (winter solstice), aka Yule, had been celebrated for centuries before anyone invented the name Christ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule


Easter was also a pagan tradition... ever wonder what the Easter bunny and egg hunts have to do with Jesus rising from the dead?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ēostre

Ēostre or Ostara (Old English: Ēastre, Northumbrian dialect Ēostre; Old High German: *Ôstara (reconstructed form)) is a Germanic divinity who, by way of the Germanic month bearing her name (Northumbrian: Ēosturmōnaþ; West Saxon: Ēastermōnaþ; Old High German: Ôstarmânoth), is the namesake of the festival of Easter.

Bede states that during Ēosturmōnaþ (the equivalent of April), pagan Anglo-Saxons had held feasts in Eostre's honor, but that this tradition had died out by his time, replaced by the Christian Paschal month, a celebration of the resurrection of Jesus.

[bonski]

Bible is written by many people including, apostles,kings,prophets and most of them in old testament it was written by prophets like Moses and in new testament by apostles.

[mrflibblehat]

Bible is written by many people including, apostles,kings,prophets and most of them in old testament it was written by prophets like Moses and in new testament by apostles.

Yeah I guess we'll stick to Bible is written by many people.

[Sturgeon]

are you trust bible ?
bible is real "holy kitab" ? i see more people wrote it, it's abnormal for holy kitab 

[criptix]

are you trust bible ?
bible is real "holy kitab" ? i see more people wrote it, it's abnormal for holy kitab 

You mean kebab? The thing that the german turks invented? Or are you talking about Kitáb-i-Aqdas?
(That is what google gives me)
Please check your translator!

[Moloch]

are you trust bible ?
bible is real "holy kitab" ? i see more people wrote it, it's abnormal for holy kitab  

Hahaha... Is this a Muslim laughing at Christians for their silly beliefs?   

[nichu]

are you trust bible ?
bible is real "holy kitab" ? i see more people wrote it, it's abnormal for holy kitab 

why would they be abnormal, its just historic depiction and if you write a memoir regarding the events will that be abnormal..i am talking about new testament 

[Daniel91]

Bible have 66 different books, written over long period of time, more than 2000 years by many authors.
Christians believe that all this authors wrote with god's inspiration so they believe that ultimately Bible is God's words spoken through us, people.
I believe that high spiritual leaders and teachers, like Moses, through their own spiritual research find out some spiritual truth and wrote it on the paper, in order to save such precious word.
New Testament is probably created 1-2 centuries after Jesus, based on the words from Jesus followers.

[Tyrantt]

Christians copied their entire tradition from somewhere... the texts are stolen from Sumerian and Jewish, the dates and festivals they stole are Germanic pagan...

That's true, they wanted to convert the pagans to christianity but to keep them satisfied, they've kept the rituals and dates from pagan believes. There are strong connections with rituals for Jarilo and orthodox christmas eve.

in many Slavic countries, Christmas is called Bozhich, which simply means little god. While this name fits very nicely with the Christian idea of Christmas, the name is likely of pagan origin; it indicated the birth of a young and new god of the sun to the old and weakened solar deity during the longest night of the year.

and a lot more dates but this one came to my mind right now.

[af_newbie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_the_Bible

The Pentateuch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahwist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuteronomist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_source



The gospels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel#Dating
    Mark: c. 68–73, c. 65–70.
    Matthew: c. 70–100, c. 80–85.
    Luke: c. 80–100, with most arguing for somewhere around 85, c. 80–85.
    John: c. 90–100, c. 90–110, The majority view is that it was written in stages, so there was no one date of composition.

Bear in mind that Jesus died when he was 33(?)... and the average lifespan at the time was around 30 years... so anyone writing ~100CE was not an eye-witness (John, Luke, Matthew)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_Gospels#The_synoptic_problem




I hope this clears everything up for you

LOL.  Yeah this does make sense.

It reminds me the pass the message game kids play:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers

The end result is the Bible.

[aardvark15]

This may have been said in the tread, but I was told that some people believe that Moses wrote Genesis.  He obviously was not around during the creation, so if in fact he wrote Genesis, he was either told by God or the creation story was passed down from Adam, etc.

[Moloch]

This may have been said in the tread, but I was told that some people believe that Moses wrote Genesis.  He obviously was not around during the creation, so if in fact he wrote Genesis, he was either told by God or the creation story was passed down from Adam, etc.

Or... Perhaps the scholars who have researched the book are correct when they say Moses never wrote it... 4 different people helped write Genesis... Hint, none of these 4 people were God...

Or, perhaps some asshat just made it all up... How is it more believable that God wrote it, than some storyteller wrote it?

People have always had stories about dragons and such... The bible is just a fairy tale... None of it is true... none of it...