SCAMMER: Fancyhash. He refuses to pay me for some service done by me.

[Gianluca95]

Hi guys, as subject as mentioned, I want to open a scam accusation against fancyhash.

What's happened?: This guy, something like 2-3 week ago come on the italian section and asks for a translation of its site. So, I PMed him and we have concluded deal for 0.075 BTC. He sent me the original text through e-mail (will paste it here if necessary). Then, he asked me to translate text without changing tag and code(that's ok). When I've sent translation to him for the first and 2nd time, something on tag/code was wrong and naturally he said to me "Please fix the error with structure because I can not load translation on the site" and I've done it (but I'm a translator, not a coder, anyway  ). Then, once code/tag was fixed, he tried to take time and send me only 1 PM everyday to say me "this is wrong, that is wrong, etc. etc." So, 3 weeks are passed but I haven't seen my money. Everytime that I've delivered my translation to him his reply always was: "Now I haven't time to check". And after one-two days he asked to me to fix other strange thing. I'm really tired guys and I can paste here every proof without any problem, translation has been done in very good way and I've done many translation works since I'm here.

Translation that I've done:
- Betcoin.tm
- Provablyfair.casino
- BikiniDice



He asked in the italian section for an opinion about the translation, and reply was this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1351724.msg13905106#msg13905106

Anyway, text of site has many truncated sentence and he asked to me to fix it (totally absurd !!!). Last time that I've heard him was on 18th February and contact started in 6th February.

Translation is here (in english and in italian in way that everyone can compare)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5jaVeZtgNMDaTJMcldWNzl1WU0&usp=sharing

This was the opinion, with some errors that I've fixed, and everyone can check:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1351724.msg13905106#msg13905106

Never received a response here, is clearly what he wants to do with me:






Check proof here:

So, what I have to do guys?

[fancyhash]

So, what I have to do guys?

You do not have to apply for work which you unable to do.

I have translated site to 4 languages . 2 translates are from this forum:
This man:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=33845
And this man:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=33845

Both were paid AFTER i got translation. Both did it very well! We have no problems .

I ordered banner from this great man:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=158505
He made cool banner and got payment AFTER work was done.  We have no problems .

And i can continue this list of normal ppl .

As for you, you did not work . It is not my duty to find errors and poke down you to each one. I did it one , second , third time. But now I am tied of it.
I will not use your translation . Because to use it i need to hire new translator to verify all that you did.
You will never be paid for it.

Look at what you post :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1286719.msg13936435#msg13936435


If you do not know english well then wherefore you fucked my brains and waste my time with translation from english?

[Gianluca95]

You're very ridicolous.

1) What if an italian user has checked translation and told to you that is good? Why don't you want to pay me?
2) I'm not English, I'm Italian. Are you able to read? Please, read in good way that sentence, if you're able to read.
3) I have done many translation before the yours and no one had any complaints. Everyone was satisfied about my works. (check my trust list, please)
4) Don't you want to pay? Ok, but as I seen you're only a Jr.Member and you have to know that this community confide so much on trust rating, so, I don't think that is very good your strategy to shill me for not pay 0.075 BTC (that not changed my life, but I want to be paid for my work).
5) Data is public. Everyone, italians and not, can check and write here if translation is good or not. In italian section you have received the first reply from an italian user that said to you that translation is good.
6) I've fixed the last errors. Do you remember about our last deal? Check PM that I've showed above, you'll find it if your brain is fucked (as you said).

I WANT TO BE PAID FOR THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE ! I'm going to leave a negative feedback which will be removed only once you have paid me.

[Joca97]

As i see everything in the first post from gianluca
fancy has to pay him,its not okey ...there is all the proof in the first post

[Stemby]

Screenshots posted in this discussion show lots of mistakes. I haven't looked at the final version, so I can't judge the quality of the total work; actually I can't do free jobs.

What do you think about this proposal?

1) paying Gianluca95 65% of 0.075 XBT
2) paying someone (I can do it) 25% of 0.075 XBT for checking and fixing mistakes

Ciao!

[Gianluca95]

I'm in agree with the 2nd purposal of Stemby. If fancyhash wants, we can split the amount (would be 0.01 BTC each one) in way to fix eventually errors.


@Stemby: All of that mistakes has been fixed. Final version has been sent on 18th February.

[alexrossi]

In my opinion Gianluca95 didn't deserve such a treatment like "i don't like your work, bye"... Stemby proposal is nice and surely fancyhash need to be less harsh on judgments.

[Gianluca95]

I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

[Gianluca95]

BUMP

[Heutenamos]

lol AFAIK theymos was promoting his site for free,could be wrong though.

[BTCat]

I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.

[Gianluca95]

I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.

Listen, first, I'm not a coder and is not my responsibility to check code under some text.
Second, translation has been done in very good way, translation was disputed only for one time, so, shut up and check it instead to say false things.
Third, I've done several translation works and I don't never had any problem. I'm here for have a comparison with fancyhash, but it seems that he is disappeared.
Fourth, I've sent a PM to him yesterday with Stemby's purposal and I haven't received any response.

So, what do you want? Tell to fancyhash to come here, everyone is waiting for him.

[fancyhash]

I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.

Listen, first, I'm not a coder and is not my responsibility to check code under some text.
Second, translation has been done in very good way, translation was disputed only for one time, so, shut up and check it instead to say false things.
Third, I've done several translation works and I don't never had any problem. I'm here for have a comparison with fancyhash, but it seems that he is disappeared.
Fourth, I've sent a PM to him yesterday with Stemby's purposal and I haven't received any response.

So, what do you want? Tell to fancyhash to come here, everyone is waiting for him.

Listen, first, the order was:

Code:

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[i]Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM
I'm interested. Can I do this work for you?

Great . I can send u lang files to view and calculate price.[b] I need to get this files exactly the same structure after translation. (tabs, tags etc )[/b]
give me your email, please [/i]
-----

So that's the main things: you tried to scam me applied for work which you unable to do! And waste and continue wasting my time!  
You do not know english well , you are not coder and do not know what is "tag" "tab" "structure" .. you can only begging money here.


Listen, Second:
Translation was made ugly!

Code:

[i]
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1. Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 09, 2016, 04:16:08 PM
Sir, but I haven't received any PM from you :/

What I have to correct?

ooops. sorry.
The problem is that:
1. i do not see translated en.yml file
2. I need files exactly the same structure as i gave u. So rtf format doesnt fit coz file consists of unnecessary symbols 
----------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 09, 2016, 09:17:54 PM
Ok, translation in yml format has been sent. We're ok now

1Keobr25pfnsgVsokKVLTqRVueymaQS92K

it.partners.yml - is incorrect 

-----------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 10, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
is it ok now?

no. it is not ok.
As i wrote to you in initial post :
 I need to get this files exactly the same structure after translation. (tabs, tags etc )
give me your email, please

your files are incorrect . some tabs do not closed . files are with outsider symbols

------------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 10, 2016, 08:22:41 PM
I'm waiting for 4 days, I want to let you know only this.

Ok, will also wait for tomorrow.


I checked files and found more errors . for example:
    p>

    <h3>Come è determinato il numero vincente?</h3>
    <ol>
      <li>Nel blocco, saltiamo tutti i caratteri nulli da sinistra più uno diverso da zero.</li>
      <li>I seguenti due caratteri sono presi come numeri esadecimali.li>
      <li>Il numero è convertito in base-10.</li>
      <li>Se il risultato del numero è minore di 222, poi il numero vincente sarà il resto del dividendo del numero uscito per 37, poi esso sarà il numero risultante esso
      <li>Se il numero risultante è migliore di 222,poi i 2 caratteri nel punto 2 sono saltati e saranno utilizzati i sugenti invece.li>
      <li>Per qualsiasi blocco, possono esserci diversi numeri vincenti che dipendono dall'importo della scommessa che è stato giocato in quel dato blocco.li>
    </ol>


You can open original file and see how tags should be located  . symbol missing like here li>    p>
Without correct structure im unable to get translation working
And it is not my work to correct errors . I have no time to do it for now, sorry

one more
./it.yml:  total_wins: Vincite totali
./it.yml:  total_wins: Vincite toali

and so on.. 

--------------------[/i]

Even after that (4-5 tries) you continue sending me files with errors accompany them with message "dont worry" and correcting only errors to which your nose was sticked in.

Supposing i put your translation with tons of errors on site, what ppl will think about it?
Surely you do not care. You couldn't care less. Coz you tried to scam me , get money and go away.

After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.
It's doesnt matter now. You can have a ticket on train but train goes away already.

You are totally ignorant irresponsible scandalous individual. You applied to english - italian translation even not knowing english well. Made a lot of mistakes and was unable to correct them in rational time claiming me that there is no mistakes. Instead of working you prefer begging money.
You can continue asking ppl to write dirt in my trust it will not help you to scam me.

[Stemby]

After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.

I can do it for you, and I'm maniacally punctilious. Obviously I can't do it for free, but my proposal should be reasonable. Escrow required.

Ciao!

[fancyhash]

After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.

I can do it for you, and I'm maniacally punctilious. Obviously I can't do it for free, but my proposal should be reasonable. Escrow required.

Ciao!

Hmm, put yourself in my place. Is it OK to deal with someone who don't give a hoot on his job, on what he do for you? But begging payment.
I get tied of correcting his errors and waste my time. Probably this work should be paid too? Not only your correction. What do you think?

[Gianluca95]

I've sent a PM to fancyhash with the solution that Stemby has purposed. Nothing to do, he doesn't answer me.

So, guys, what I have to do?

You should have done your job correctly from the start. Delivering it with so many mistakes and going back and forth about it was the reason for not getting paid.

Learn from it and move on.

Listen, first, I'm not a coder and is not my responsibility to check code under some text.
Second, translation has been done in very good way, translation was disputed only for one time, so, shut up and check it instead to say false things.
Third, I've done several translation works and I don't never had any problem. I'm here for have a comparison with fancyhash, but it seems that he is disappeared.
Fourth, I've sent a PM to him yesterday with Stemby's purposal and I haven't received any response.

So, what do you want? Tell to fancyhash to come here, everyone is waiting for him.

Listen, first, the order was:

Code:

-----
[i]Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM
I'm interested. Can I do this work for you?

Great . I can send u lang files to view and calculate price.[b] I need to get this files exactly the same structure after translation. (tabs, tags etc )[/b]
give me your email, please [/i]
-----

So that's the main things: you tried to scam me applied for work which you unable to do! And waste and continue wasting my time!  
You do not know english well , you are not coder and do not know what is "tag" "tab" "structure" .. you can only begging money here.


Listen, Second:
Translation was made ugly!

Code:

[i]
-----------------------
1. Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 09, 2016, 04:16:08 PM
Sir, but I haven't received any PM from you :/

What I have to correct?

ooops. sorry.
The problem is that:
1. i do not see translated en.yml file
2. I need files exactly the same structure as i gave u. So rtf format doesnt fit coz file consists of unnecessary symbols 
----------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 09, 2016, 09:17:54 PM
Ok, translation in yml format has been sent. We're ok now

1Keobr25pfnsgVsokKVLTqRVueymaQS92K

it.partners.yml - is incorrect 

-----------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 10, 2016, 12:16:32 PM
is it ok now?

no. it is not ok.
As i wrote to you in initial post :
 I need to get this files exactly the same structure after translation. (tabs, tags etc )
give me your email, please

your files are incorrect . some tabs do not closed . files are with outsider symbols

------------------------

Quote from: Gianluca95 on February 10, 2016, 08:22:41 PM
I'm waiting for 4 days, I want to let you know only this.

Ok, will also wait for tomorrow.


I checked files and found more errors . for example:
    p>

    <h3>Come è determinato il numero vincente?</h3>
    <ol>
      <li>Nel blocco, saltiamo tutti i caratteri nulli da sinistra più uno diverso da zero.</li>
      <li>I seguenti due caratteri sono presi come numeri esadecimali.li>
      <li>Il numero è convertito in base-10.</li>
      <li>Se il risultato del numero è minore di 222, poi il numero vincente sarà il resto del dividendo del numero uscito per 37, poi esso sarà il numero risultante esso
      <li>Se il numero risultante è migliore di 222,poi i 2 caratteri nel punto 2 sono saltati e saranno utilizzati i sugenti invece.li>
      <li>Per qualsiasi blocco, possono esserci diversi numeri vincenti che dipendono dall'importo della scommessa che è stato giocato in quel dato blocco.li>
    </ol>


You can open original file and see how tags should be located  . symbol missing like here li>    p>
Without correct structure im unable to get translation working
And it is not my work to correct errors . I have no time to do it for now, sorry

one more
./it.yml:  total_wins: Vincite totali
./it.yml:  total_wins: Vincite toali

and so on.. 

--------------------[/i]

Even after that (4-5 tries) you continue sending me files with errors accompany them with message "dont worry" and correcting only errors to which your nose was sticked in.

Supposing i put your translation with tons of errors on site, what ppl will think about it?
Surely you do not care. You couldn't care less. Coz you tried to scam me , get money and go away.

After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.
It's doesnt matter now. You can have a ticket on train but train goes away already.

You are totally ignorant irresponsible scandalous individual. You applied to english - italian translation even not knowing english well. Made a lot of mistakes and was unable to correct them in rational time claiming me that there is no mistakes. Instead of working you prefer begging money.
You can continue asking ppl to write dirt in my trust it will not help you to scam me.

And for what amount I've to scam you? around 0.075 BTC? lol, keep in mind my activity, you'll consider that is ridicolous that I have tried to scam you for that amount.

Listen, translation has been done in very good way and you in everyway have tried to not pay me with every excuses.

Where is written that I don't know english in very well way? I'm serious, if you find some proof that I've written this, you have to post it here.

Rational time? But If you asked me to correct something on the translation and this was sent to you almost instantly, what do you want? Please, don't change roles, keep in mind that the man that has tried to take time in every way was you and not me, and PM talks in very clear way.

You are totally ignorant irresponsible scandalous individual.

Keep calm sir. I'm here to create a sort of dialogue and I've posted every proof that I've collected and not for insult you. So, be polite and be more diplomatic. I've waited 5 days for a yours answer (that was a public answer because you've not answered to my PM in this days).

Any italian user can check, my offer is this: I'll pay to the italian man that will check translation 25% of the amount to check translation and see if it is good, after that fancyhash will give 0.075 to an escrow.

This is my last deal. I'm here to create dialogue and deal, now it's your turn.


PS: Be a man, don't be a children.

PPS: I've not begging you nothing, I'm only asking my payment for the work that I've MADE for you, don't understand?

PPPS: (After 7 days) you haven't time to check translation? Who are you, Marchionne? Bill Gates? Tim Cook? 

[Gianluca95]

After tons of fails, you tell us that translation is ok. I do not believe and i have no time to check and i do not wish to check.

I can do it for you, and I'm maniacally punctilious. Obviously I can't do it for free, but my proposal should be reasonable. Escrow required.

Ciao!

Hmm, put yourself in my place. Is it OK to deal with someone who don't give a hoot on his job, on what he do for you? But begging payment.
I get tied of correcting his errors and waste my time. Probably this work should be paid too? Not only your correction. What do you think?

Instead to be a children, check translation and see if there are other errors ! I haven't understood yet what do you want from me ! I've made my work for you, what is your problem? You have given to me last possibility (check the last PM) and translation was made in very good way, what do you want right now? Why don't you want to pay me?

If you don't want to pay me for me is ok, but community have to know the person that you're.

[fancyhash]

Rational time? But If you asked me to correct something on the translation and this was sent to you almost instantly, what do you want? Please, don't change roles, keep in mind that the man that has tried to take time in every way was you and not me, and PM talks in very clear way.

More then 5 times you sent me files with errors claiming that work was done! Cheating me.
That means exactly that more then 5 times you tried to scam me : work was not done but you asked for payment.
Every time you have corrected ONLY errors which i found ! 

EVERY TIME CONTINUE SENDING ME FILES WITH ERRORS = TRYING TO SCAM ME = GET PAYMENT FOR WORK WHICH WAS NOT DONE.

MAY BE YOU WISH TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND COMPENSATE ME MY TIME  FOR DEALING WITH YOU?

[Gianluca95]

Rational time? But If you asked me to correct something on the translation and this was sent to you almost instantly, what do you want? Please, don't change roles, keep in mind that the man that has tried to take time in every way was you and not me, and PM talks in very clear way.

More then 5 times you sent me files with errors claiming that work was done! Cheating me.
That means exactly that more then 5 times you tried to scam me : work was not done but you asked for payment.
Every time you have corrected ONLY errors which i found !  

EVERY TIME CONTINUE SENDING ME FILES WITH ERRORS = TRYING TO SCAM ME = GET PAYMENT FOR WORK WHICH WAS NOT DONE.

MAY BE YOU WISH TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, AND COMPENSATE ME MY TIME  FOR DEALING WITH YOU?

I've said you that I'm not a coder, so is not my responsibility to check if structure and other things are correct, if you're noob that you aren't able to check it I can not do nothing.

And for the first 4 times your complaints was concerned about the code and NOT for translations.

So, expand your creativity and invent other excuses. You have checked translation the last time? (when you have said me: You have the last possibility) I guess no. File IS perfect and also translations. So, if you want to recover your face, you have some time to do it, but if you don't want to do it, I'm glad to let community know that you're a scammer.

My equation is this:

EVERY TIME CONTINUE WASTE TIME WITH SOME EXCUSES = TRYING TO SCAM ME = AVOID PAYMENT FOR WORK WHICH WAS DONE.

[sarabanda]

Guys,what you say??? fancyhash  always paid for jobs and offers I want to work with fancyhash in the future too:) Thank you fancyhash !!!:) All the best wishes for fancyhash:)