Billyboy402 - Trusted escrow ?

[xinzark]

This topic is created for continuity of few issues

Read from post #18 : https://web.archive.org/web/20160220172711/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1364502.0

Read from post #5 : https://web.archive.org/web/20160220172954/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1371111.0

The discussion based on this issue was not at right section/thread so I decided to open up this one

[Quickseller]

He has negative trust when I look at his trust score....

[Billyboy402]

I'm not trusted yet because I have no history (I mean no trust history,but I had some trades here ).
By the way,let's wait for some scam accusations.

[Billyboy402]

He has negative trust when I look at his trust score....

Because you left a negative trust rating on my account and also someone left without reference link "Digital-goods spammer" .

[The Sceptical Chymist]

It's really not a good idea to create self moderated topics, especially on an escrow thread--seems like you have something to hide.  Did you buy this account, Billyboy?  You might want to address these accusations specifically.

Quickseller can call out escrow scams pretty well because he has no concept of escrow honesty.  He's probably right however hypocritical he may be in laying this accusation.

[Billyboy402]

It's really not a good idea to create self moderated topics, especially on an escrow thread--seems like you have something to hide.  Did you buy this account, Billyboy?  You might want to address these accusations specifically.

Quickseller can call out escrow scams pretty well because he has no concept of escrow honesty.  He's probably right however hypocritical he may be in laying this accusation.

I have nothing to hide. I created "self-moderated" topic because I can easily delete posts which contain off-topic,troll content etc. I know there are moderators but I would like to have clean topic without trolls,imposters,spammers. This account is mine created by me. I own 0 alt accounts.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Still not good practice even if your intentions are good.  Having a moderated thread means you can easily stifle criticism, and you might get some criticism acting as an escrow.  There must be a reason why QS thinks your account was bought and I'd be interested to know why, even if he's the last person on earth who should be speaking about unsavory escrow practices.

[Billyboy402]

Still not good practice even if your intentions are good.  Having a moderated thread means you can easily stifle criticism, and you might get some criticism acting as an escrow.  There must be a reason why QS thinks your account was bought and I'd be interested to know why, even if he's the last person on earth who should be speaking about unsavory escrow practices.

As I wrote,I will delete only posts which contain off-topic and troll content and posts by imposters. I changed my password 2 times in one day,that's the reason why Quickseller thinks I'm not the original owner of this account.

[Quickseller]

Still not good practice even if your intentions are good.  Having a moderated thread means you can easily stifle criticism, and you might get some criticism acting as an escrow.  There must be a reason why QS thinks your account was bought and I'd be interested to know why, even if he's the last person on earth who should be speaking about unsavory escrow practices.

As I wrote,I will delete only posts which contain off-topic and troll content and posts by imposters. I changed my password 2 times in one day,that's the reason why Quickseller thinks I'm not the original owner of this account.

That is not the reason. I have very strong evidence that implies that your account is sold that is not in the seclog

[whywefight]

Still not good practice even if your intentions are good.  Having a moderated thread means you can easily stifle criticism, and you might get some criticism acting as an escrow.  There must be a reason why QS thinks your account was bought and I'd be interested to know why, even if he's the last person on earth who should be speaking about unsavory escrow practices.

As I wrote,I will delete only posts which contain off-topic and troll content and posts by imposters. I changed my password 2 times in one day,that's the reason why Quickseller thinks I'm not the original owner of this account.

That is not the reason. I have very strong evidence that implies that your account is sold that is not in the seclog

Would you mind sharing it?

[Lutpin]

This account is mine created by me. I own 0 alt accounts.

Quoted for future reference.

[Joel_Jantsen]

This account is mine created by me. I own 0 alt accounts.

Quoted for future reference.

Double Quoted by me ,incase in future I find out any of his alt's,most probably Operator.

[xinzark]

Double Quoted by me ,incase in future I find out any of his alt's,most probably Operator.

Do you mean this user ? : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=92499
If yes then how you suspected that operatr account can be his alt ?

As I wrote,I will delete only posts which contain off-topic and troll content and posts by imposters. I changed my password 2 times in one day,that's the reason why Quickseller thinks I'm not the original owner of this account.

Think before you write. Your every comment related to this issue matters. If you over present something then don't regret later
And we also do hate spams but that doesn't mean I will open a very sensitive service self moderated.

[Lutpin]

that's the reason why Quickseller thinks I'm not the original owner of this account.

Funny how your staked addresses don't go back furter than one week.

[Lutpin]

And what does it prove?

Doesn't prove anything, only throws up a few questions.
Care to tell me for how long you live in the GMT+0 timezone?

[xinzark]

I don't know if this topic is discussed or noticed earlier but I guess Billyboy402 is the first escrow service provider who don't even have any bitcoin address or pgp key staked
Strange that a user with 560 activity which takes 560 days to gain have no trading history as well as no bitcoin address or pgp key staked to prove ownership (Even if it proves. That doent mean account as not sold).

[whywefight]

Obviously bought account... seems to me this way...

[mexxer-2]

Well just to put it out there, he previously owned amalref according to him: Link

Now the this looks very similar to what the account was at that time. And this might also explain the hesitation of Billy not showing a signed message as amalref(which at the time, was the person currently behind Billy account) bought accounts without signed message as well. Although one thing that doesn't correspond with the account sale is "Light green trust" which even if you put billy and amalref in your trust list, doesn't appear on Billy's account.

Anyway, its usually me who forces negs on users who try running an escrow service without any previous trades or shady backgrounds. Just thought of giving a chance to the guy. Seems I made a bad choice


The accusations about Blly being a bought account would've been resolved, if he would sign a message from an old(staked) address. In this case even a signed message from an altcoin address would work

[Heutenamos]

It's off-topic crap, just stop Es-crowing until you grow a Green Tree under your avatar or EDIT the thread to not accept any trades more than 0.04 btc.

[Heutenamos]

I'm not accepting trades which has a value more than 0.05 BTC

That's Good.I think this should resolve the issue now.
EDIT : IMO just stop es crowing for a month or until you are considered as an active helping user.