Ethereum vs Lisk

[Fademigo]

The LISK ICO will probably not make as much as the ETH ICO did 

Why do you believe that? It seems to have some very good backing and ideas behind it.

Do you know any big names behind Lisk? Ethereum is decentralized. I think I like the decentralised system.

[fortunecrypto]

I saw the development of lisk and they seems to have a solid plan and goals for their project,the teams has a full plan and any investors will support this kind of crypto currency I'm sure it;s going to be a big hit

[punkrock]

[Abiky]

Wow I am impressed. Especially the part where it says that Lisk has or will have a GUI wallet, whereas Ethereum still doesn't have a stable release 

This is a very good detailed chart to compare between Lisk and Ethereum. Which will be the best will be up to development and usability. Thanks for sharing this. 

[nickenburg]

Yes that chart is really good, u can see exactly what both coins have.
I actually think they both look really promising, I really wonder where the price will go for these 2 coins.
Did buy a few ethereum and also invested in Lisk today and planning to do some more the coming weeks.

[punkrock]

It's more than a coin. Never forget this!

[stoat]

Seems like a total bag of shit to me.  I will be buying the ICO though. just to dump as soon as it hits the market. Make some free money off the noobs who are stupid enough to fall for this obvious scheme.

[Pitchblackroom]

Yes that chart is really good, u can see exactly what both coins have.
I actually think they both look really promising, I really wonder where the price will go for these 2 coins.
Did buy a few ethereum and also invested in Lisk today and planning to do some more the coming weeks.

I think thats on everyone's mind. But the initial value will be however much people decide to invest into this coin initially during the ICO

[punkrock]

@stupid: Keep your peanuts... Lisk don't need 'em.

[stoat]

Give me your peanuts I am broke

Ok you may have a peanut

[houlala1]

One logo is a picture from World of Warcraft and the other one is a simple 3D cone

Don't need to read more

[Piston Honda]

lisk still looks to shady...huge btc in short time ico? all that work to set up the ico, how much (and where) is all the work done ON the actual tech and coin?  in theory it could work well i'd imagine but where's the substance?

does the math even work out for huge 100mil coin count vs. pricing?  you'll for sure see dumpers (from the ppl who bought with other coinage) right as soon as it goes up in price (assuming it does).

you have a "community" out of thin fucking air already?!  with sig adding on here and everything?  where the heck did all these "fans" *cough shills cough* come from all of a sudden for a coin that has had almost no exposure?

wat?

[adhitthana]

How can I apply in the ICO?

[NorrisK]

lisk still looks to shady...huge btc in short time ico? all that work to set up the ico, how much (and where) is all the work done ON the actual tech and coin?  in theory it could work well i'd imagine but where's the substance?

does the math even work out for huge 100mil coin count vs. pricing?  you'll for sure see dumpers (from the ppl who bought with other coinage) right as soon as it goes up in price (assuming it does).

you have a "community" out of thin fucking air already?!  with sig adding on here and everything?  where the heck did all these "fans" *cough shills cough* come from all of a sudden for a coin that has had almost no exposure?

wat?

It is build around the previously developed Crypti tech. This is also likely where the "fans" got from, as they did well in general but lacked funds to seriously push Crypti on the market.

The dev team of Lisk have already proven themselves in a previous project and are now taking the lessons learned from there to build something that people actually want and need and they are making sure they are sufficiently funded.

[child_harold]

OK. I looked into this before and here is my opinion:

- Ethereum does everything internally, Lisk does not and uses a side-chain model where the side-chains are hooked to a public chain

What is the difference between "private-chains" hooked to a public chain (like those that will emerge up in the Ethersystem) and side-chains hooked to a public chain, as with Lisk?

Id argue they are more or less the same, maybe identical and this is all semantics.

Long story short . Developing apps on side-chains Lisk style may offer some short-term advantages, but big picture is that THE most valuable apps (dapps) will be those built on Ethereum, not side-chains dapps, not private-chain dapps

Also bear in mind Lisk's relationship to Crypti, an ambitious project which ultimately failed. Lisk is a second chance. I do not believe Ethereum will need any second chances.

[patmast3r]

OK. I looked into this before and here is my opinion:

- Ethereum does everything internally, Lisk does not and uses a side-chain model where the side-chains are hooked to a public chain

What is the difference between "private-chains" hooked to a public chain (like those that will emerge up in the Ethersystem) and side-chains hooked to a public chain, as with Lisk?

Id argue they are more or less the same, maybe identical and this is all semantics.

Long story short . Developing apps on side-chains Lisk style may offer some short-term advantages, but big picture is that THE most valuable apps (dapps) will be those built on Ethereum, not side-chains dapps, not private-chain dapps

Also bear in mind Lisk's relationship to Crypti, an ambitious project which ultimately failed. Lisk is a second chance. I do not believe Ethereum will need any second chances.

I'd argue that it's a lot more than semantics. If everytyhing happens on the mainchain then every node can execute those contracts and not just some nodes that support that special Dapp (i.e. that sidechain). IMHO that is a yuge adavantage and also aids decentralization. Obviously there are downsides to this as well.

Of course I could be wrong about how ethereum works in regards to contract execution.

[child_harold]

OK. I looked into this before and here is my opinion:

- Ethereum does everything internally, Lisk does not and uses a side-chain model where the side-chains are hooked to a public chain

What is the difference between "private-chains" hooked to a public chain (like those that will emerge up in the Ethersystem) and side-chains hooked to a public chain, as with Lisk?

Id argue they are more or less the same, maybe identical and this is all semantics.

Long story short . Developing apps on side-chains Lisk style may offer some short-term advantages, but big picture is that THE most valuable apps (dapps) will be those built on Ethereum, not side-chains dapps, not private-chain dapps

Also bear in mind Lisk's relationship to Crypti, an ambitious project which ultimately failed. Lisk is a second chance. I do not believe Ethereum will need any second chances.

I'd argue that it's a lot more than semantics. If everytyhing happens on the mainchain then every node can execute those contracts and not just some nodes that support that special Dapp (i.e. that sidechain). IMHO that is a yuge adavantage and also aids decentralization. Obviously there are downsides to this as well.

Of course I could be wrong about how ethereum works in regards to contract execution.

The semantics question asks what the difference between a private-chain and side-chain really is, assuming a private-chain has the same ability (if employed by its developer) to hook into the mainchain.

Agree that Ethereum 's model is the more deecntralized, global, visoonary, god-like.
Wrapping my head around the idea that EThereum is a computer (albeit a slow one) which can do anything is challenging/inspiring.
Bearing in mind all the firmware/hardware hacks happening these days ETH is the only "trustless computer" in the world today.

[Abiky]

The semantics question asks what the difference between a private-chain and side-chain really is, assuming a private-chain has the same ability (if employed by its developer) to hook into the mainchain.

Agree that Ethereum 's model is the more deecntralized, global, visoonary, god-like.
Wrapping my head around the idea that EThereum is a computer (albeit a slow one) which can do anything is challenging/inspiring.
Bearing in mind all the firmware/hardware hacks happening these days ETH is the only "trustless computer" in the world today.

For me, I think Ethereum could be better than Lisk due to its complexity. It has features that look far more complex than Lisk in my opinion. Also, don't forget that a very smart programmer (Vitalik) is behind the Ethereum so that could be a good sign to keep it moving forward with very promising features. When I see Lisk, I see it as another Crypti clone, but I could be wrong 

Anyways, it is not bad to grab some ICO coins now and then dump them for profit once there is a price increase. 

[spartacusrex]

Whereas ETH uses solidity programming language, Lisk would use JavaScript which would be easier for developers to adapt to it since it is one of the most popular programming languages out there. What do you think? 

Actually Ethereum uses the EVM. Ethereum Virtual Machine.

Solidity is compiled into EVM code (assembly) and then run. Much like java is compiled into classes that run on a JVM.

Any language could theoretically be compiled to EVM code.

Someone just needs to write a JavaScript to EVM compiler, and you have the same thing as LISK.

Actually, Solidity is pretty similar to JavaScript anyway.


From the WIKI :

Solidity is a high-level language whose syntax is similar to that of JavaScript and it is designed to compile to code for the Ethereum Virtual Machine.

I don't know a lot about LISK so it may have other useful features. I'm sure it does..

[Abiky]

Actually Ethereum uses the EVM. Ethereum Virtual Machine.

Solidity is compiled into EVM code (assembly) and then run. Much like java is compiled into classes that run on a JVM.

Any language could theoretically be compiled to EVM code.

Someone just needs to write a JavaScript to EVM compiler, and you have the same thing as LISK.

Actually, Solidity is pretty similar to JavaScript anyway.


From the WIKI :

Solidity is a high-level language whose syntax is similar to that of JavaScript and it is designed to compile to code for the Ethereum Virtual Machine.

I don't know a lot about LISK so it may have other useful features. I'm sure it does..

Thanks for sharing this information. I didn't realized that JavaScript could be possible within the Ethereum Virtual Machine. Maybe someday, someone will come up with a JavaScript to EVM compiler and then it would make the platform even more awesome than what it is right now. I will keep an eye on both platforms and see how they would perform in the next months or years. Only one will emerge victorious. Just wait and see. 

P.S. I am looking if there are possibilities of making a decentralized website within the ETH platform. Something that would be similar to Maidsafe.