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This is great, thanks. As a new user, I'm still finding my way, not just on how to make transactions, but how to really get the most value from it. I'm still on BTC 101.
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This is great, thanks. As a new user, I'm still finding my way, not just on how to make transactions, but how to really get the most value from it. I'm still on BTC 101.

Same this thread is such an incredible resource to me.
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I was writing this as a reply to someone else's topic and it got kind of lengthy, so I decided to make it into a topic instead.

The intention of this topic is to help new buyers and sellers in the BitCoin community who are looking to meet up and trade locally. I've done a lot of local trades and sales over the years, so I'm hoping that my experiences can help beginners by giving them ideas on how to trade safely. For this purpose I've separated my advice into three sections: meeting for trades, advice for buying, and advice for selling.

I've tried to format everything in a clear and concise manner to make this topic more readable. I'm open to suggestions for edits and additions to help make this guide as useful as possible.

Hope this guide helps anyone looking to start trading locally!

Note: Some names/locations I mention are US based, so I apologize if they're irrelevant for your location. The theories behind this topic should be fine regardless of country.



Meeting:
There are three main things I look for in meeting places:
  • Public Location - Are there plenty of people around?
  • WiFi Access - Is there free or cheap public WiFi access in the area?
  • Security - Are there security cameras or security guards in the area?

Public Location:
Public locations are like Local Trading 101: it is always better to meet in a public place. Scammers and muggers are a lot less likely to try anything with witnesses around. You can usually find these people early on by simply requesting a public meeting place: they want to meet their victims alone.

WiFi:
Places like McDonalds, Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, and many local coffee shops offer free WiFi access. A lot of hotels offer WiFi as well, but usually not for free or to non-customers. Bring a laptop or tablet with you if you have one so you can check transaction details and confirmations. Depending on what you're buying/selling/trading, having a computer to do some last second research on item values can never hurt if you're worried about getting the short end of the stick.

Security:
A location with security cameras adds an extra layer of security to a trade. If the other party does get away with stealing from or scamming you, you'll have physical evidence in a recording that can help the authorities track the offender down and bring him to justice. Security guards can help set your mind at ease if you're concerned that you might get mugged: muggers are a lot less likely to rob you if there's a guard with a gun a few yards away. A guard can easily step in and save you if a mugger does start attacking you.

My personal recommendation would be to meet at a mall, if there's one in your area. Malls have tons of security measures to help protect you as you make your trade, and many malls have WiFi access across the entire property: there's a good chance that one of the mall's stores has WiFi access even if the mall itself doesn't. Banks are a good choice too: banks have great security, and some bigger banks have WiFi access as well.

Buying:
There are three things I want to cover about buying in-person:
  • Reviewing Your Purchase
  • Paying with BitCoin
  • Paying with Cash

Reviewing Your Purchase:
For buying items, remember that there's a lot you can't tell about something just from pictures. Make sure to look the item over carefully and make sure everything is in working condition/described condition before you pay the seller. A seller who is unwilling or nervous about letting you check out an item may know something about the item he doesn't want you to find out. It's a good idea to meet during the day or in a well lit area so you can see everything clearly. Don't be afraid to ask questions if anything feels off and don't feel obligated to complete a sale you're uncomfortable with.

Paying with BitCoin:
One of the easiest ways to pay in BitCoin in person is with a mobile wallet app from a smartphone. Blockchain a mobile wallet app for Android and iOS. It's an online wallet, so I wouldn't recommend it for long-time storage: strictly transactions. Once I know how much I need to pay for an item I put that much in the wallet, and maybe 1 or 2 BTC more just in case there's a last second price change, and when I get home I immediately transfer any leftover funds to a more secure wallet. Blockchain works the same as any other client: enter the seller's payment address and the amount of BTC for the sale to send payment. Blockchain also has a QR scanner built in if the seller has a QR code address.

As a side note, I use an iPhone and Blockchain is, to my knowledge, the only wallet app for iOS without jailbreaking your phone. I have no knowledge about jailbreaking or Android apps for alternatives to Blockchain, but you can always do your research here on the forum or on the BitCoin wiki to find an app that works for you. You can also use your laptop, if you have it with you, to access your wallet and pay the seller. I recommend creating a brand new wallet for the transaction, especially if you're the paranoid type. Better safe than sorry, right? Wink

Paying with Cash:
This section focuses on buying BitCoins. One of the more common OTC transactions is buying BitCoin with cash. If you're buying BTC, you need to give the seller a payment address to receive your funds. You can use your mobile wallet to receive the funds, which you can then transfer to a safer wallet when you get home, or you can write down or print out a wallet address for the seller to send the BTC to. If you do the latter method, make sure to confirm the transaction before you part ways: use a laptop to check your wallet and confirm the payment or have a trusted friend/family member monitor the wallet and contact you with confirmation of the funds.

Selling:
There are a few things to review for sellers:
  • Terms of the Sale or Trade
  • Accepting BitCoin Payment
  • Accepting Cash Payment
  • Other Forms of Payment

Terms of the Sale or Trade:
If you and the buyer have agreed to the terms of the trade ahead of time (as in what is being sold and for what price), I recommend printing out a copy of the agreement or correspondence (emails, forum posts, etc.). I've had experiences where the buyer tries to change the deal at the last minute or claims that I agreed to a lower price for the sale. Printing out what you offered and he accepted will back you up and help you get the price you asked for. You can also take a picture of these correspondences with your phone or digital camera if you don't have a printer, or use a laptop/tablet to bring them up if WiFi access is available.

Accepting BitCoin Payment:
Write down or print your payment address and bring it with you: I also recommend having a QR code address printed for buyers who use mobile wallets. Make sure you have a way to confirm payment before you part ways with the buyer. Use a laptop/tablet to check on the transaction for confirmations as well as affirming that the buyer paid the correct amount. You could also have a trusted friend/family member monitor your wallet and contact you with confirmation if WiFi is unavailable. Mobile app wallets may be able to confirm transactions on the spot, negating the need for WiFi access and a computer if you have a 3G/4G phone: the Blockchain app I mentioned can do this for you.

Accepting Cash Payment:
The main concern with cash payment is counterfeit bills. Most banks and retail locations keep special markers at the registers that can show if a bill is real or counterfeit. Here's an example on Amazon. These markers are a cheap investment if you're worried about receiving counterfeit money. I've also found them at office supply stores like Office Depot and Staples for around $5-$15. Keep one in your pocket and mark the bills before you finish the sale. Make sure you explain to the buyer what you're doing so they don't freak out on you: I've had that happen before.

Other Forms of Payment:
The are two things to remember about alternative forms of payment: one; try to agree with the buyer ahead of time about the use of non-cash/non-BTC payments, and two; do your research on the payment method to make sure you know what you're getting and how it works (and how easily, if possible, it can be forged or reversed). This forum is full of warnings about certain payment methods for good reason. BitCoin purchases seem to be the bigger targets for chargeback fraud, so keep yourself educated when you're selling BTC in person.

There is one final warning I would like to give in this section: do not accept personal checks. One of the first in-person sales I ever did was for a personal check ($450), and I'm sure you can guess how that went simply by the way I've brought it up. Another check sale a few months after that one was paid for with a stolen checkbook and I had police show up at my house asking about the sale so they could find the guy. If you absolutely must accept a sale by check, I would recommend completing the sale at a bank so you can cash the check on the spot.

Other Tips:
This section is for good advice submitted by other posters. Thanks for your contributions!
  • Make sure to specify your expectations in advance. Confirm the time and place of meeting and make sure that both parties have everything on hand to complete the sale or trade. ~ Stephen Gornick
  • Strength in numbers: bringing along a second person can be an excellent source of additional security and protection. ~ Vernon715
Thank you so much for this information. Got an idea how to use my bitcoin on trade physically. An additional tips also about security on how to use bitcoin.
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April 01, 2017, 10:58:34 AM
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Seeing as how our friend - the government, tries to control even bitcoin (no escape from big brother's claws), face-to-face meetings would be best. Lately all exchange sites are required to get your photo ID. Wasn't the idea behind bitcoin exactly that? To be anonymous?

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I mostly use localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins.They have not asked me about my personal details.But i dont know whether they bwould ask my details if i have to buy bitcoins.If they ask,then i would have to think about buying bitcoins with person face to face.However,its a very good article for newbies who have just now entered the bitcoin world.
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I mostly use localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins.They have not asked me about my personal details.But i dont know whether they bwould ask my details if i have to buy bitcoins.If they ask,then i would have to think about buying bitcoins with person face to face.However,its a very good article for newbies who have just now entered the bitcoin world.

Yup! it is really helpful for some newbies in the forum and I think I am thinking the same thought too in showing my details of my identity with someone apparently and learning my stock of bitcoin in my wallet, in the bitcoin world it is really important that you stay anonymous I think it is for your family and your own protection for safety measures.

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I mostly use localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins.They have not asked me about my personal details.But i dont know whether they bwould ask my details if i have to buy bitcoins.If they ask,then i would have to think about buying bitcoins with person face to face.However,its a very good article for newbies who have just now entered the bitcoin world.

Yup! it is really helpful for some newbies in the forum and I think I am thinking the same thought too in showing my details of my identity with someone apparently and learning my stock of bitcoin in my wallet, in the bitcoin world it is really important that you stay anonymous I think it is for your family and your own protection for safety measures.

Definitely helping newbies with this articles like me. Of course, all of us don't want to give or show too much information and we want to remain anonymous, if that is the case then maybe I agree that its better face to face when buying bitcoins. Anonymity is the big advantage who want with bitcoin if we are exposing our personal information then we are taking away one advantage of bitcoin.

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April 26, 2017, 07:33:55 AM
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I mostly use localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins.They have not asked me about my personal details.But i dont know whether they bwould ask my details if i have to buy bitcoins.If they ask,then i would have to think about buying bitcoins with person face to face.However,its a very good article for newbies who have just now entered the bitcoin world.

Yup! it is really helpful for some newbies in the forum and I think I am thinking the same thought too in showing my details of my identity with someone apparently and learning my stock of bitcoin in my wallet, in the bitcoin world it is really important that you stay anonymous I think it is for your family and your own protection for safety measures.

Definitely helping newbies with this articles like me. Of course, all of us don't want to give or show too much information and we want to remain anonymous, if that is the case then maybe I agree that its better face to face when buying bitcoins. Anonymity is the big advantage who want with bitcoin if we are exposing our personal information then we are taking away one advantage of bitcoin.
Certainly, anonymity must be presserved in this field of digital currency to protect one's users account from hackers and questioning when does and how does the money went to his wallet. Thus, choose local exchanger which doesn't ask for identity. There many local exchangers that didn't requires identity in order for a one user make an exchange.

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I mostly use localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins.They have not asked me about my personal details.But i dont know whether they bwould ask my details if i have to buy bitcoins.If they ask,then i would have to think about buying bitcoins with person face to face.However,its a very good article for newbies who have just now entered the bitcoin world.

Yup! it is really helpful for some newbies in the forum and I think I am thinking the same thought too in showing my details of my identity with someone apparently and learning my stock of bitcoin in my wallet, in the bitcoin world it is really important that you stay anonymous I think it is for your family and your own protection for safety measures.

Definitely helping newbies with this articles like me. Of course, all of us don't want to give or show too much information and we want to remain anonymous, if that is the case then maybe I agree that its better face to face when buying bitcoins. Anonymity is the big advantage who want with bitcoin if we are exposing our personal information then we are taking away one advantage of bitcoin.
Certainly, anonymity must be presserved in this field of digital currency to protect one's users account from hackers and questioning when does and how does the money went to his wallet. Thus, choose local exchanger which doesn't ask for identity. There many local exchangers that didn't requires identity in order for a one user make an exchange.
You think that such restrictions will make currency exchanges as well as the safety of users' savings safer but it is possible that it is such restrictions that cover the whole point of the safety of your money.
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Hello,

 Could somebody confirm if there is a wallet that offers the transfer service from its wallet directly to my regular U.S bank account ?

I will appreciate your help.
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May 13, 2017, 10:07:13 AM
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This is great, thanks. As a new user, I'm still finding my way, not just on how to make transactions, but how to really get the most value from it. I'm still on BTC 101.

Same this thread is such an incredible resource to me.
Op you are right and am also joined others to thank you for this Educative post. I just sold some of my coin last month through local and I did not take most of the things you advise here into consideration but from now I will follow this great advise.

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It felt like reading personal banking system terms an condition. Very impressive information about local trading. I would never had thought like that way. Some points are really good in terms of safety while performing trading face to face. It is always good to have public place with public around. I think this will also gain us potential traders in the market and we can communicate directly about the fees and mode of transfer. Cool topic. Loved reading it.



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I'm reposting this again.  I got a message that a moderator deleted it, with the instruction that "Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic'.   This is most definitely NOT off-topic.


Trading of bitcoins with cash can be made safely at any one of the many "safe zones".   You might wish to use a safe zone to help protect you from being robbed during a cash trade transaction. These zones were set up to help craigslist type of transactions, but they can be used for Bitcoin transactions as well.

- http://www.safetradestations.com/about-safetrade.html
- http://www.safetradestations.com/where-to-trade.html
- http://www.safetradestations.com/safetrade-station-list.html
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This is really good and helpful for us. Thank you so much!

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I mostly use localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins.They have not asked me about my personal details.But i dont know whether they bwould ask my details if i have to buy bitcoins.If they ask,then i would have to think about buying bitcoins with person face to face.However,its a very good article for newbies who have just now entered the bitcoin world.

Yup! it is really helpful for some newbies in the forum and I think I am thinking the same thought too in showing my details of my identity with someone apparently and learning my stock of bitcoin in my wallet, in the bitcoin world it is really important that you stay anonymous I think it is for your family and your own protection for safety measures.

Definitely helping newbies with this articles like me. Of course, all of us don't want to give or show too much information and we want to remain anonymous, if that is the case then maybe I agree that its better face to face when buying bitcoins. Anonymity is the big advantage who want with bitcoin if we are exposing our personal information then we are taking away one advantage of bitcoin.

Thinking about anonymous, this is a great security for you and your family for sure if you are known to have more bitcoin and your identity is exposed then there are a possibility that some bad people would take this for an opportunity to blackmail or kidnap your love ones or probably something terrible than that then they would ask to transfer your bitcoin to their account that simple so just like your password to your ATM this is simply valuable.

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well at this beggining was local use of a bitcoins to direct meet a person and give a pen with a wallet and the btc inside for him or her to check the pen and wallet over the computer laptop and see i did give him this amount of bt for instances that she or he will give me a iphone to buy on direct real trade in a cofe or soo.... but now you talk over localbitcoins site that its very trustworthy for you to use over bank and btc direct safety its very common there its reliable site i done like over 500€ to btc bought and  vice - versa there.... even on pay pal that i dont idvise that much but the regular of € to btc i do advise that site
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Fantastic info, thank you for providing this.

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June 21, 2017, 04:02:32 PM
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I mostly use localbitcoins for selling my bitcoins.They have not asked me about my personal details.But i dont know whether they bwould ask my details if i have to buy bitcoins.If they ask,then i would have to think about buying bitcoins with person face to face.However,its a very good article for newbies who have just now entered the bitcoin world.

Yup! it is really helpful for some newbies in the forum and I think I am thinking the same thought too in showing my details of my identity with someone apparently and learning my stock of bitcoin in my wallet, in the bitcoin world it is really important that you stay anonymous I think it is for your family and your own protection for safety measures.

Definitely helping newbies with this articles like me. Of course, all of us don't want to give or show too much information and we want to remain anonymous, if that is the case then maybe I agree that its better face to face when buying bitcoins. Anonymity is the big advantage who want with bitcoin if we are exposing our personal information then we are taking away one advantage of bitcoin.

Thinking about anonymous, this is a great security for you and your family for sure if you are known to have more bitcoin and your identity is exposed then there are a possibility that some bad people would take this for an opportunity to blackmail or kidnap your love ones or probably something terrible than that then they would ask to transfer your bitcoin to their account that simple so just like your password to your ATM this is simply valuable.


An advantage of bitcoin transactions is our anonymous identity,
Whatever bitcoin we have other people will only know the amount and it is impossible to track who we are from where we are and where we are from,
Then that's a lot of those who do money laundering using bitcoin,
Because here we can use bitcoin transactions for good and for crime

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July 05, 2017, 09:25:12 AM
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Thanks for sharing this topic i'm still newbie on this field and i want to learn more about bitcoins.

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July 08, 2017, 06:01:31 AM
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Can face-to-face transactions also be done for ethereum?

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