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February 22, 2016, 01:43:02 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.




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February 22, 2016, 01:55:51 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.


false. you only will get negative feedback if you try to buy btc using a reversible payment method, selling hacked or other illegal goods, asking a loan without collateral, or other things that make others think "scam!" right after they read it.
even then there will be users who warns you to read the stickies or lock the topic or whatnot so that you can learn and avoid the negative feedback.

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February 22, 2016, 02:04:26 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.


false. you only will get negative feedback if you try to buy btc using a reversible payment method, selling hacked or other illegal goods, asking a loan without collateral, or other things that make others think "scam!" right after they read it.
even then there will be users who warns you to read the stickies or lock the topic or whatnot so that you can learn and avoid the negative feedback.


So is there any good tip of how to get real help for newbies. 

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February 22, 2016, 02:06:42 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.




What you have asked is right. It can't be changed according to users. If you need to prove your ability you need to wait, no other go.

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February 22, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
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So is there any good tip of how to get real help for newbies.  

To be honest, i've seen dozens of guys (and girls) asking questions in this very subforum. at least 80% of the time, they either get a friendly post back with the help they asked, or they get pointed to a link (usually an internal link to a different topic) where their question was already answered.

In the (maximum) 20% of the cases that did go without a proper answer, it's usually because
- they were rude
- their post was so unsubstantial, nobody could undertstand their question
- it was a clear scam attempt
- it was a clear spam attempt
- their question was so difficult it didn't belong in beginners/help

It is very seldom that i see a polite question that wasn't answered before, formulated in an understandable way that went unanswered (it does happen from time to time, but in my experience, it's seldom)

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February 22, 2016, 02:12:11 PM
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.....Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies. ..........I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  
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So is there any good tip of how to get real help for newbies.  

what kind of help are you seeking?
are you looking for technical support about bitcoin or are you looking for loans?

for technical support, ask anything you want here and you will get answer from the community. no problem

if you want loan, read the rules HERE

.....I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback. ......
if you have revived negative feedback it is probably because you ignored the red text int the rules

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February 22, 2016, 03:19:42 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.





I'm highlight the "Loans for BTC". If you want a loan and you are a newbie, it's hard to make a loan. and you need a good collateral for that. or you can get negative feedback and trust.
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February 22, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.




nope, you will not get negative trust if you want to do a loan with your collateral because the main reasons why so many newbie get negative trust during asking for loan is they do not have good collateral for their loans
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February 22, 2016, 04:01:00 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.




nope, you will not get negative trust if you want to do a loan with your collateral because the main reasons why so many newbie get negative trust during asking for loan is they do not have good collateral for their loans

But then again if you think about it. Trust really comes with age and time. If your account is still a newbie, no people wont put negative trust on you, but im sure it will be hard for anyone else to trust you. Guess the safest thing to do is just hang in there till you have your account promoted.
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February 22, 2016, 04:03:04 PM
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So many people have been scammed here over the years by low ranked, new accounts. You must follow the correct procedures or risk getting negative trust. Sometimes genuine people might get negative trust mistakenly but if that protocol saves 99/100 people getting scammed then damn that account is just collateral.




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February 22, 2016, 04:51:22 PM
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So many people have been scammed here over the years by low ranked, new accounts. You must follow the correct procedures or risk getting negative trust. Sometimes genuine people might get negative trust mistakenly but if that protocol saves 99/100 people getting scammed then damn that account is just collateral.

So why do they rank people then. If anyone on the site can scam people then change the system. If someone scams someone use then yea it should be in there feedback. The ranked is too much for for some people that start off with BTC. 

I am working on trying to get feedback but being a newbie on the site no one want to trust me. It seems that the newbies is not getting the same respect and the member. There are all was something to pick on with a newbie. 

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February 22, 2016, 04:57:55 PM
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So many people have been scammed here over the years by low ranked, new accounts. You must follow the correct procedures or risk getting negative trust. Sometimes genuine people might get negative trust mistakenly but if that protocol saves 99/100 people getting scammed then damn that account is just collateral.

So why do they rank people then. If anyone on the site can scam people then change the system. If someone scams someone use then yea it should be in there feedback. The ranked is too much for for some people that start off with BTC.  

I am working on trying to get feedback but being a newbie on the site no one want to trust me. It seems that the newbies is not getting the same respect and the member. There are all was something to pick on with a newbie.  

The question is what do you lose when you (as a newbie) scam someone. Your account isnt even 2 weeks old. You would have lost next to nothing. Same with respect, no one here knows you, why should they respect or even trust you? Respect and trust are earned not asked for and given. If you try to force trust you will very likely find yourself with a negative rating.
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February 22, 2016, 05:00:46 PM
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So many people have been scammed here over the years by low ranked, new accounts. You must follow the correct procedures or risk getting negative trust. Sometimes genuine people might get negative trust mistakenly but if that protocol saves 99/100 people getting scammed then damn that account is just collateral.

So why do they rank people then. If anyone on the site can scam people then change the system. If someone scams someone use then yea it should be in there feedback. The ranked is too much for for some people that start off with BTC.  

I am working on trying to get feedback but being a newbie on the site no one want to trust me. It seems that the newbies is not getting the same respect and the member. There are all was something to pick on with a newbie.  

The question is what do you lose when you (as a newbie) scam someone. Your account isnt even 2 weeks old. You would have lost next to nothing. Same with respect, no one here knows you, why should they respect or even trust you? Respect and trust are earned not asked for and given. If you try to force trust you will very likely find yourself with a negative rating.

So how do I really find some that want to give a newbie a change.  Not all of use is bad.

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February 22, 2016, 05:01:02 PM
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I do understand that we are all members of bitcointalk.org.  We have to earn are membership rink on the site.  Why is it so hard to find good help for newbies.

I am able to buy and sell and Loans for BTC.  If I post then I get Negative feedback.
Why is it so hard to give newbies a chance to show off what they have know.


false. you only will get negative feedback if you try to buy btc using a reversible payment method, selling hacked or other illegal goods, asking a loan without collateral, or other things that make others think "scam!" right after they read it.
even then there will be users who warns you to read the stickies or lock the topic or whatnot so that you can learn and avoid the negative feedback.
They're starting to give negative and neutral feedback for lenders not asking for a signed message before loaning. I think that's way overboard.  The logic is that this will recruit scammers, but I don't buy that.

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February 22, 2016, 05:04:54 PM
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So many people have been scammed here over the years by low ranked, new accounts. You must follow the correct procedures or risk getting negative trust. Sometimes genuine people might get negative trust mistakenly but if that protocol saves 99/100 people getting scammed then damn that account is just collateral.

So why do they rank people then. If anyone on the site can scam people then change the system. If someone scams someone use then yea it should be in there feedback. The ranked is too much for for some people that start off with BTC. 

I am working on trying to get feedback but being a newbie on the site no one want to trust me. It seems that the newbies is not getting the same respect and the member. There are all was something to pick on with a newbie. 

New accounts need to prove themselves,you really should not have any issue on that. Most scammers will not wait 200 posts to scam and usually try well still a Jr member. If we had no way of seeing a rank,then it would be open season for scamming.
New accounts should read everything they can before trying to find deals in lending.

Lot of what you are asking for can be found in the forums and are pinned in the forums most people start in.

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February 22, 2016, 05:07:51 PM
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If your account is still a newbie, no people wont put negative trust on you

Not sure if how it is with more senior accounts, but if you're a new account and you try to ask for a loan without collateral, you'll get negative trust in double quick time.
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February 22, 2016, 05:17:23 PM
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If your account is still a newbie, no people wont put negative trust on you

Not sure if how it is with more senior accounts, but if you're a new account and you try to ask for a loan without collateral, you'll get negative trust in double quick time.

Usually because the new account did not read the pinned thread at the top of the forum. If some one does not take their time to read the rules,whats the chance of them paying back a loan? It needs to be taken seriously or that sub forum would explode with 3-5 guys creating accounts all day asking for a loan with no problems.

See people every day some how find the lending section with their first posts but we are supposed to believe they do not understand how the forum works.

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February 22, 2016, 05:24:27 PM
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The question is what do you lose when you (as a newbie) scam someone. Your account isnt even 2 weeks old. You would have lost next to nothing. Same with respect, no one here knows you, why should they respect or even trust you? Respect and trust are earned not asked for and given. If you try to force trust you will very likely find yourself with a negative rating.

So how do I really find some that want to give a newbie a change.  Not all of use is bad.

I assume you mean a chance and not change. The question is a chance for what? Trades? Just accept escrow and you should have no problems finding deals. You can also try going first, but that might put you at risk yourself. Higher ranked members should not be trusted just because of the rank.
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February 22, 2016, 05:39:48 PM
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Usually because the new account did not read the pinned thread at the top of the forum. If some one does not take their time to read the rules,whats the chance of them paying back a loan? It needs to be taken seriously or that sub forum would explode with 3-5 guys creating accounts all day asking for a loan with no problems.

See people every day some how find the lending section with their first posts but we are supposed to believe they do not understand how the forum works.

I'm not asking why that happens.

I was merely pointing out to gregyoung14 that it's not the case that newbie accounts don't get negative trust.
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