Here’s How I Would Bring Down Bitcoin

[sgbett]

If not: take a look at the mirror...

What are we trying to imply here?

That if we keep nodding contentedly, thinking that the description applies
only to the "other crowd", we might benefit re-reading the article and perhaps our own
output. That's what we try to do here.

Even better is that this article applies to neither side. Its fluff and nonsense designed to enrage. The article is crap.

[YarkoL]

Even better is that this article applies to neither side. Its fluff and nonsense designed to enrage. The article is crap.

I agree that the overall scenario described here is sensationalist yarn designed
to feed conspiracy theories, but the attitudes and mud-sling techniques
described there, taken individually, do exist and are being employed by both sides
of the dispute.

[Carlton Banks]

If not: take a look at the mirror...

What are we trying to imply here?

That if we keep nodding contentedly, thinking that the description applies
only to the "other crowd", we might benefit re-reading the article and perhaps our own
output. That's what we try to do here.

Even better is that this article applies to neither side. Its fluff and nonsense designed to enrage. The article is crap.

What, it's crap because it's description describes your corpulent position?




You people are losing, and it's because you're on the losing side of history. It's over for you and your paymasters.

Take my advice, bail out fast. Bitcoin is still winning. And it will win decidedly.

[calkob]

What does it matter because truely revolutinary tech will break through the mud slinging........

Are these not classic CIA/Mi6 covert ops type stratagies anyway?

[mrflibblehat]

These are just social engineering strategies that try to influence the price of bitcoin so that they'll get rich.

[Lauda]

Even better is that this article applies to neither side. Its fluff and nonsense designed to enrage. The article is crap.

It certainly applies, you're being hyperbolic and choosing to ignore the individual methods that are presented. Let's take for example:sock-puppets. Did we not see a huge increase of those advocating for either side (i.e. shilling)? We did. So how does it not apply again? It was not designed to enrage anybody, it was designed for people to realize that is going on and to wake up.

What, it's crap because it's description describes your corpulent position?

I didn't see a relevant argument explaining why it's "crap", nor arguments defeating the specifics points, ergo this possibility exists.

These are just social engineering strategies that try to influence the price of bitcoin so that they'll get rich.

It is not just about the price.

[robelneo]

Very good article this is very new to me,so there are ways to bring down bitcoin and this is a clear methods but have they employ that already or will they employ in the future..But it's great that they are unmasked..

[xslugx]

I'm pretty sure this is already happening.I have no doubt about that.
Even Andreas Antonopoulos spoke about that at the last DevCore Event.
Divide and conquer!It's always the same dirty game.
So stay calm, be smart and don't fall for these bastards!!

EDIT: this should definitely be a sticky thread

Don't know about the sticky part but what's for sure is that that's a new way to see things.

It would be rather an incredible destabilization campaign! With incredible ressources thrown into the battle.

[daveon]

Even if they take down bitcoin, what about the other 1000's of altcoins??? Does these people even have a brain?

[Lauda]

Even if they take down bitcoin, what about the other 1000's of altcoins??? Does these people even have a brain?

This is what you people fail to realize. If Bitcoin dies because of such a reason, then it is most likely that all the other experiments die with it. What is to prevent another coin from suffering the same fate? Nothing.

It would be rather an incredible destabilization campaign! With incredible ressources thrown into the battle.

It does seem like a lot, but it might be just the beginning.

[Kprawn]

Even if they take down bitcoin, what about the other 1000's of altcoins??? Does these people even have a brain?

This is what you people fail to realize. If Bitcoin dies because of such a reason, then it is most likely that all the other experiments die with it. What is to prevent another coin from suffering the same fate? Nothing.

It would be rather an incredible destabilization campaign! With incredible ressources thrown into the battle.

It does seem like a lot, but it might be just the beginning.

Excellent point Lauda, the attack on Bitcoin is basically a attack on all Crypto Currencies. I doubt that a Alt coin shill will go through this much trouble to take down

Bitcoin. This is a collective and concentrated tactic from a group of people to discredit Bitcoin, in an attempt to stop all public Crypto Currencies. My farther

always said, if you are approached by 3 people in a fight, you only need to take down the biggest of the 3... When the biggest guy falls, the other 3 will hesitate and

you will take them down easier or they will run.

[Blind Legs Parker]

Does any of this seem familiar?

This definitely seems familiar. It might bring down bitcoin a little but it won't suffice to bring it to the ground, though, because there's still the lot of us who are using their brains and don't believe everything they're fed with (and our ranks increase with every passing day). Besides, anyone taking too much stuff at face value and not using their brains enough will soon find themselves with nowhere to go but out because in bitcoin anything can happen, thus if you're only here "becuz bitcoin haz bright future lol" you'll leave by your own will quite quickly, most likely to never come back.
So the worst case scenario is a price drop, several weak elements leaving, the others buying at cheap price and price rising back again, with basically only the same reliable people still being there and bitcoin having already achieved the highest degree of recognition that it will ever achieve. It's certainly sad considering all the potential that bitcoin has, but it's still not that bad for those of us here to stay: bitcoin is already great as it is now. And I'm talking about the worst case scenario, here. A sightly better one that could still happen even if we are divided like we are now is a very slow growth. But hey, a slow growth is a growth.

Anyway, we shouldn't be too pessimistic regarding human nature. I say we should wait and see.
Besides, I think that at least several devs are using the FUD to buy at cheap price. I wouldn't be surprised that some of them are being difficult to agree with because they can benefit from the situation. Now if it gets really dangerous they all have a lot to lose too, I say. Consensus is much easier to reach when everyone can see the sword of Damocles hanging over their heads. Everyone has a lot to lose if bitcoin fails. Now some of us have a high decision power to end the FUD. And if motivation is what they need, then time is all we need.

always said, if you are approached by 3 people in a fight, you only need to take down the biggest of the 3... When the biggest guy falls, the other 3 will hesitate and

you will take them down easier or they will run.

I hope you'll still be in a well enough state after the fight with the big guy to still be able to count if it ever happens, or the remaining guys might notice that you're weakening and maybe seize the opportunity  

[xslugx]

Even if they take down bitcoin, what about the other 1000's of altcoins??? Does these people even have a brain?

This is what you people fail to realize. If Bitcoin dies because of such a reason, then it is most likely that all the other experiments die with it. What is to prevent another coin from suffering the same fate? Nothing.

It would be rather an incredible destabilization campaign! With incredible ressources thrown into the battle.

It does seem like a lot, but it might be just the beginning.

Well the good point in this is that it won't really affect the true bitcoiners, those that have faith in crypto.

And that whatever the ressources in the battle, you can't just kill btc, whatever the price there will always be miners taking care of transactions.

[BoeserKeller]

It makes complete sense, but there are something strange in this line of though.

First: who is it that is manipulating information? Don't you think there's too many players to reach a consensus on when, where and how to perpetrate those actions? (e.g. some major group could be attempting a pump & dump, while other major group just got out of one and would operate on the opposite manner...)

Second: if there's such an information conspiracy, how could we, bitcoin lovers and supporters, counter-attack?

[spazzdla]

.... the people in this thread wow..

So you think a multi TRILLION.. 100's.. of Trillions.. perhaps even quadrillion dollar organizations wouldn't attack the first threat to them in over 100 years...

... honestly....

[Blind Legs Parker]

.... the people in this thread wow..

So you think a multi TRILLION.. 100's.. of Trillions.. perhaps even quadrillion dollar organizations wouldn't attack the first threat to them in over 100 years...

... honestly....

According to this research, the world's total wealth is $241 trillion. Phail.

I didn't understand the rest of your post, by the way. What does it mean "the first threat to them in over 100 years"?

[btcltccoins]

Even if they take down bitcoin, what about the other 1000's of altcoins??? Does these people even have a brain?

Firstly Bitcoins can be taken down. Secondly if it is, then there is no furture of Altcoins.
Altcoins are alive because of bitcoins.

[spazzdla]

.... the people in this thread wow..

So you think a multi TRILLION.. 100's.. of Trillions.. perhaps even quadrillion dollar organizations wouldn't attack the first threat to them in over 100 years...

... honestly....

According to this research, the world's total wealth is $241 trillion. Phail.

I didn't understand the rest of your post, by the way. What does it mean "the first threat to them in over 100 years"?

What form of money has been a thread to the FED since 1913. None.

[btcusury]

To my mind it's almost inconceivable that this hasn't been going on.

How could there not be a war for consumer minds to direct their attention towards whatever "solution" the banksters offer when their financial system crashes harder than in 2008?

By all means, decentralized currency must not be seen as a viable alternative.

This kind of operation seems simpler than other disinfo operations, such as the Sunstein-type operations where there are seemingly thousands of posters/commenters with an epistemology so crippled and yet so inflexible as to make it quite obvious that they couldn't possibly really believe what they claim to believe (such as "no planes hit the towers" and "directed energy weapons destroyed the towers", and "nobody died at Sandy Hook").

I made this topic for anyone who spends more time on here than me who is as interested as I in identifying them. It's not self-moderated so it became another long (61 pages) XT/Classic shilling display. Good catch Lauda.

[Bit_Happy]

Anyone with experience in extended, unconventional conflict should be able to recognize current patterns in the Bitcoin and digital currency space that resemble subversive activity.
Is a game of social engineering being leveled at the Bitcoin community? Based on open source information alone, it’s conceivable that certain individuals or teams are trying  to demoralize and disrupt the Bitcoin ecosystem.

...

Does any of this seem familiar?

Yes, quite familiar.
To some extent, the "unconventional conflict" started here in June 2011 during the first huge Bull market rally.