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Author Topic: Forget Grexit. BREXIT is the Bigger Threat to Europe.  (Read 1814 times)
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February 28, 2016, 04:34:56 PM
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Maybe the rest of the EU will breathe a sigh of relief when the UK's gone. By the sounds of it all they do is moan and bitch anyway.

I don't think so. The United Kingdom is one of the donor nations within the EU, and they help to subsidize the poorer nations such as Poland and Lithuania. If the Brexit occurs for real, then the pressure on the other donor nations (such as Germany, Netherlands, and France) will increase significantly. They are already under a lot of strain as a result of the Greek bailout.
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February 28, 2016, 07:06:08 PM
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Maybe the rest of the EU will breathe a sigh of relief when the UK's gone. By the sounds of it all they do is moan and bitch anyway.

I don't think so. The United Kingdom is one of the donor nations within the EU, and they help to subsidize the poorer nations such as Poland and Lithuania. If the Brexit occurs for real, then the pressure on the other donor nations (such as Germany, Netherlands, and France) will increase significantly. They are already under a lot of strain as a result of the Greek bailout.

Yeah the rich northern countries will have to pay more. Even worse is that they are already doing most of it.
Donations; refugee problem etc.

Perhaps they will use it to grow their influence in the Union.
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February 29, 2016, 11:01:10 AM
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the European Union is not going to last, someone feels like it has become a political entity and it's better to break out

it's just a matter of time, so I hope the UK will just do it and protect itself from future geopolitical developments in that region
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February 29, 2016, 11:29:29 AM
Last edit: February 29, 2016, 11:40:42 AM by dealeris
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I don't think so. The United Kingdom is one of the donor nations within the EU, and they help to subsidize the poorer nations such as Poland and Lithuania. If the Brexit occurs for real, then the pressure on the other donor nations (such as Germany, Netherlands, and France) will increase significantly. They are already under a lot of strain as a result of the Greek bailout.

Not sure why you mentioned Lithuania as "poorer". At 2016 index of economic freedom Lithuania ranks 13th in the world and 6th in Europe http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

This country has received from the EU 10765 million over what it has contributed(small amount comparing to many other EU countries), for example:

Poland - got 74296 million over what it has contributed
Portugal - got 63579 million over what it has contributed
Spain - got 91463 million over what it has contributed
Greece - got 109258 million over what it has contributed
More stats can be found: http://www.money-go-round.eu/
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February 29, 2016, 06:53:16 PM
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...and it is not democratic at all. It is time to found a new more decentralized union were collaboration is focused on economical and juridical issues. And not focused on things like the maximal curvature of bananas or cucumbers. Let it called EDU, European Democratic Union.

the European Union is not going to last, someone feels like it has become a political entity and it's better to break out

it's just a matter of time, so I hope the UK will just do it and protect itself from future geopolitical developments in that region
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February 29, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
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I don't think so. The United Kingdom is one of the donor nations within the EU, and they help to subsidize the poorer nations such as Poland and Lithuania. If the Brexit occurs for real, then the pressure on the other donor nations (such as Germany, Netherlands, and France) will increase significantly. They are already under a lot of strain as a result of the Greek bailout.

Not sure why you mentioned Lithuania as "poorer". At 2016 index of economic freedom Lithuania ranks 13th in the world and 6th in Europe http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

This country has received from the EU 10765 million over what it has contributed(small amount comparing to many other EU countries), for example:

Poland - got 74296 million over what it has contributed
Portugal - got 63579 million over what it has contributed
Spain - got 91463 million over what it has contributed
Greece - got 109258 million over what it has contributed
More stats can be found: http://www.money-go-round.eu/

Well fact is some countries take much more, Lithuania one of them.
Uk stepping out of the Union would mean the rich EU countries will have a heavier burden. I don't think they will accept that, knowing they already are doing more in the refugee problem.
Let's hope these countries will force the poor countries to donate more or help out more. It's a democracy right?

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March 01, 2016, 02:42:12 PM
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Well fact is some countries take much more, Lithuania one of them.
Uk stepping out of the Union would mean the rich EU countries will have a heavier burden. I don't think they will accept that, knowing they already are doing more in the refugee problem.
Let's hope these countries will force the poor countries to donate more or help out more. It's a democracy right?

Your explanation and solution is similar to signing a bank loan contract and as soon as the bank feels insecure or gets in a bad situation you start repaying your loan with much bigger payments than agreed upon.
Joining the EU is a contract - you know the terms prior to signing it. If you do not like how everything is developing go ahead and break it, but do not blame the ones who honor their signed contracts.
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