Bitcoin Forum
November 21, 2017, 12:35:33 PM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.15.1  [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Ortiz set out to destroy more american citizens.  (Read 1336 times)
Herodes
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868


View Profile
January 19, 2013, 11:30:44 PM
 #1

http://www.wbur.org/2012/11/14/tewksbury-motel-owner-fights-property-seizure

Now she's trying to seize a hotel worth 1.5 million because guests have committed drug related crimes.

1511267733
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511267733

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511267733
Reply with quote  #2

1511267733
Report to moderator
Join ICO Now A blockchain platform for effective freelancing
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
Third Way
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238



View Profile
January 20, 2013, 12:14:50 AM
 #2

Ah yes, the old "crimes have happened here, thus the owners are in on the crimes" property/asset forfeiture abuse the government NEVER abuses.


It's shit like this why I consider myself Libertarian.  mo state, mo problems.


There is nothing worse out there for the citizens of any country when bureaucrats such as this lose sleep over knowing people can make their own choices.

blease resbond -> 1BYJKxpntNn6TZbM5M5CWkEb8vr8vDcBrr
iCEBREAKER
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1834


[LOL2X]


View Profile WWW
January 20, 2013, 12:57:06 AM
 #3

Quote
As the prosecutor emphasized to the judge, the burden in this trial is on Caswell to prove he’s an innocent owner.

Such are the new Intolerable Acts, which are forming the basis for justifying a second American Revolution.

The King's Men will respect our Liberty, or die for their transgressions.


██████████
█████████████████
██████████████████████
█████████████████████████
████████████████████████████
████
████████████████████████
█████
███████████████████████████
█████
███████████████████████████
██████
████████████████████████████
██████
████████████████████████████
██████
████████████████████████████
██████
███████████████████████████
██████
██████████████████████████
█████
███████████████████████████
█████████████
██████████████
████████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
██████████████████████
█████████████████
██████████

Monero
"The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine
whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
David Chaum 1996
"Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect."  Adam Back 2014
Buy and sell XMR near you
P2P Exchange Network
Buy XMR with fiat
sounds
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 140

1221iZanNi5igK7oAA7AWmYjpsyjsRbLLZ


View Profile
January 20, 2013, 01:47:07 AM
 #4

Ain't that the truth: the only reason bureaucrats fight against the rightful freedoms of the citizens is that they think they have something better.

They're fighting to establish fascism or a monarchy – still haven't learned the lessons of history.

Please: have the means to defend yourself. Be prepared. But oh, don't be the instigator of bloodshed. Our cause is just. There's nothing that needs to be proven. The usurpers will trip themselves up and reveal their true nature even without our help.

(Shooting somebody in the name of freedom would be just what Obama wants!)
b!z
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1568



View Profile
January 20, 2013, 11:14:49 AM
 #5

Silly Americans.
Herodes
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868


View Profile
January 20, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
 #6

It wil be interesting how this plays out, but honestly, it's really horrible. I won't even start to say what some people may do if the state take their property. For sure, that's not how you make friends..
Third Way
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238



View Profile
January 21, 2013, 12:04:33 AM
 #7

Silly Americans.

Asset forfeiture is not an American only problem.

blease resbond -> 1BYJKxpntNn6TZbM5M5CWkEb8vr8vDcBrr
Herodes
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868


View Profile
January 21, 2013, 06:27:22 AM
 #8

Silly Americans.

Asset forfeiture is not an American only problem.

What countries do it ? I have heard Argentina and Venezuela ?

It's wrong either way, and should be fought at all costs.
Third Way
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238



View Profile
January 21, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
 #9

The way I see it, every government world wide is capable of it.

Whether through forced acceptance of compensation or outright confiscation of land.

blease resbond -> 1BYJKxpntNn6TZbM5M5CWkEb8vr8vDcBrr
Herodes
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868


View Profile
January 21, 2013, 04:29:48 PM
 #10

The way I see it, every government world wide is capable of it.

Whether through forced acceptance of compensation or outright confiscation of land.

Because 'crimes' were comitted on the property ?
bpd
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 114


View Profile
January 21, 2013, 08:11:01 PM
 #11

It is as it ever was. "Legal plunder" is the aim of the state.

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html
littlebit
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 18



View Profile
January 21, 2013, 08:31:17 PM
 #12

EMINENT DOMAIN ANYONE?? i feel bad for americans.
Anon136
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1316



View Profile
January 21, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
 #13

any one want to go to Ms. Ortiz house with me to make a drug trade in her front yard so we can see if she will attempt to have her own property confiscated by the government?

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
deadweasel
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 364



View Profile
January 21, 2013, 08:40:42 PM
 #14

any one want to go to Ms. Ortiz house with me to make a drug trade in her front yard so we can see if she will attempt to have her own property confiscated by the government?

No. 

Deafboy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 484



View Profile WWW
January 21, 2013, 08:50:30 PM
 #15

In Slovakia, the gov. stole the land from people to build a highway. 10 years ago. Some of the people still did not get any money.
sounds
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 140

1221iZanNi5igK7oAA7AWmYjpsyjsRbLLZ


View Profile
January 21, 2013, 09:38:28 PM
 #16

Crime is everywhere.

Just the other day I went to a surgery room and a guy in a mask pulled a knife on me!
Herodes
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868


View Profile
January 24, 2013, 03:32:57 AM
 #17

Quote
Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


This does not apply in this case ?
Third Way
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238



View Profile
January 26, 2013, 03:10:57 AM
 #18

The motel owner won the case against the bitch.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/01/triumphant_motel_owner_slams_carmen_ortiz


blease resbond -> 1BYJKxpntNn6TZbM5M5CWkEb8vr8vDcBrr
Herodes
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 868


View Profile
January 26, 2013, 04:09:35 AM
 #19


Great news! Thanks for sharing. Well done on the motel owner to stand up against Ortiz.


Quote
Her spokeswoman declined comment on the Caswell case last night, saying prosecutors are reviewing the judge’s decision.

'Her spokeswoman' ? She can't speak for herself? Geez....
iCEBREAKER
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1834


[LOL2X]


View Profile WWW
January 27, 2013, 07:06:55 AM
 #20

Thank you again for the update.  So glad to hear that incompetent cunt got smacked down in court.

Were I the hotel owner or a surviving relative of Swartz, I would have sufficient standing to go after her bar card.

It wouldn't be easy, but discovery is a powerful tool. 

Prosecutorial immunity is not absolute.  Just ask old Mike Nifong!   Wink


██████████
█████████████████
██████████████████████
█████████████████████████
████████████████████████████
████
████████████████████████
█████
███████████████████████████
█████
███████████████████████████
██████
████████████████████████████
██████
████████████████████████████
██████
████████████████████████████
██████
███████████████████████████
██████
██████████████████████████
█████
███████████████████████████
█████████████
██████████████
████████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
██████████████████████
█████████████████
██████████

Monero
"The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine
whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
David Chaum 1996
"Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect."  Adam Back 2014
Buy and sell XMR near you
P2P Exchange Network
Buy XMR with fiat
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!