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February 24, 2016, 01:02:38 AM
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I just wanted to warn everyone:  There are multiple (brand-new) accounts being created trying to scam using me as an escrow.

This is how they are working:

They work out a deal with a seller, offering BTC.  They have no problem with escrow.

Once the deal is set and the scammer and seller needs to find an escrow, the scammer sends the seller this:

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Just had a pm from monbux -

***THIS IS A FAKE PM, I DID NOT SEND PMS LIKE THIS***
Hi username_here,

No probs acting as Escrow for your trade.

Please forward the link below to my main Escrow thread on the forum to fake like to escrow -

*Fake bitcointalk.org link, with a replicated thread that has a different ESCROW ADDRESS*

Trade = (insert trade details)

After the funds have been deposited to my Escrow address in the first post ask (escrow) to pm myself and you the transaction I.D.  When you have confirmed the transfer you are safe to make payment.

NOTE: Please send payment by registered post with tracking!

@ escrow, drop me a pm when you have been paid and ill release the funds to username_here

Thanks,

monbux


These PMs have already scammed multiple users.  Please, always, CHECK FOR THE ACTUAL ESCROW'S CONFIRMATION.  Ask for a PGP signed message.  Stay safe everyone.
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February 24, 2016, 01:45:37 AM
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Same thing happening with OgNasty and other escrows.

I just received this message but address is different from your Post # 1 now want to confirm is this OK or this person trying to scam thanks



@monbux: Could you provide a list of addresses used in those scam attempts, so I (and others) can have a look into them?


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February 24, 2016, 01:49:06 AM
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Thank you for the heads up.  I have yet to use escrow, but I don't do many deals here anyway.  Unbelievable how many scammy asshats there are on this forum.

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February 24, 2016, 01:59:28 AM
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I'd encourage everyone receiving faked messages like that to report the users who send you those asap via a scam accusation.


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February 24, 2016, 02:03:53 AM
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Why the fuck is it that easy to trick people?? Why dont they think before they act... god damn.

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February 24, 2016, 02:28:01 AM
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Why the fuck is it that easy to trick people?? Why dont they think before they act... god damn.

Before my hiatus here, I spent a LOT of time in the Altcoin Announcement sections (in the IPO scam "hay day") and would point out obvious scam after obvious scam.  Didn't matter how big, bold, and/or red you made the text, nor how blunt you were in your "this guy is obviously scamming people" posts, people would still happily send bitcoin after bitcoin to these douche canoes.

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February 24, 2016, 02:41:02 AM
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So  basicly i should post an address and let people throw money at me...

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February 24, 2016, 03:21:48 AM
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You gotta admit, there is some (albeit woefully misplaced) creativity in this. Fake quote, fake link, fake website, it's not your average penny scammer.

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February 24, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
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You gotta admit, there is some (albeit woefully misplaced) creativity in this. Fake quote, fake link, fake website, it's not your average penny scammer.


Yeah, I wonder how many times it's worked? I can imagine it'll sting a few people. Quite a few have fallen for newbies pretending to be reputable higher ranked members so I'm sure this will work eventually if it hasn't already.

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February 24, 2016, 09:15:38 AM
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Always check for the "This user is new and may not be who you think they are warning" above as I imagine most of these accounts are newish.
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Always check for the "This user is new and may not be who you think they are warning" above as I imagine most of these accounts are newish.
Did you even read how they try to scam up above?

I did, but I was adding this as im sure some people have tried this in PM also. The more information the better really, right?
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February 24, 2016, 01:24:29 PM
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You gotta admit, there is some (albeit woefully misplaced) creativity in this. Fake quote, fake link, fake website, it's not your average penny scammer.


Yeah, I wonder how many times it's worked? I can imagine it'll sting a few people. Quite a few have fallen for newbies pretending to be reputable higher ranked members so I'm sure this will work eventually if it hasn't already.
I've been contacted multiple times by people who actually got scammed.  The thing is, they didn't try to impersonate me... They claimed that they got a PM from me and forwards it to the buyer/seller.  I've got to admit, it would seem pretty legit to a person who is new to the concept of escrow.

And yes, be SURE to actually verify the quote, guys.  Report any users that seem suspicious.

@Lutpin I'll have to do some research.  Some of the PMs I got, the link has been taken down by the scammer, and some I didn't receive the link.  In the end I might be able to only get 1 address.
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February 24, 2016, 01:27:19 PM
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@Lutpin I'll have to do some research.  Some of the PMs I got, the link has been taken down by the scammer, and some I didn't receive the link.  In the end I might be able to only get 1 address.
One address might be all I need. If you think it's worth the effort, I'd appreciate getting hands any addresses connected.


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February 24, 2016, 01:28:32 PM
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Seems its usually users who are trading with a currency, a trade which seems too good to be true - Escrow available, around 0.5 BTC being traded, which usually scam. Think its time to ask for signed messages from the address they claim holds the amount, and posting a warning that they should get a PGP signed message before sending BTCs to addresses claimed by the other person to be from the escrow
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February 24, 2016, 04:40:40 PM
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This scammer is providing a great service to the community.

If you are stupid enough to fall for this, you are going to lose your coins anyway, at least this guy is just ripping off the band aid fast and taking a bunch at once instead of bleeding you to death over time like some of the scam "companies" out there.

Are people really dumb enough to send coins to an "escrow" without communicating with them on their own?
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February 24, 2016, 04:41:31 PM
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This forum's escrow services are really that much better than not using an escrow at all. First master-p and now this. The forum is seriously going down fast.

Signatures? How about learning a skill... I don't care either way. Everybody has to make a living somehow.
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February 24, 2016, 06:24:13 PM
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This forum's escrow services are really that much better than not using an escrow at all. First master-p and now this. The forum is seriously going down fast.

Case of master-p was different but how is this escrow's fault?

Anyone can PRETEND to be anyone, the simple solution to this is, talk to the person directly and ask for signed PGP + BTC address message and verify those before conducting any business. Infact this rule applies to anyone you're dealing with because this is clearly an attempt to scam and/or harm other person's reputation.

 

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February 24, 2016, 07:42:34 PM
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I request all escrow providers not to send same type of messages for every escrow deal. Change the pattern of writing on every escrow. By same type I meant pms with same template because a scammer can easily fake that just by copying the template and sometimes many users including me skip to verify the trust rating when viewing on my mobile screen.

Similarly signing the message with pgp is the most secure way too.
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February 24, 2016, 10:11:44 PM
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Seems like another scam attempt: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1376070.msg13998900#msg13998900

Better watch out for those.
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February 24, 2016, 10:15:44 PM
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See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1374283.0

I recently got scammed by this user without escrow, but he offered to use Ognasty as escrow as well. I believe he is an alt of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159338(same 0.5 BTC, same escrow etc.)

Can someone confirm my suspicions?
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