Gay marriage will destabilise family life

[yugo23]

I want to note that this was not my point. I don't support parents dictating someone's sexuality for them, nor do I support the state removing a child from their natural parents for doing so as long as they are not otherwise being abused. My only implication was that friends and family, some times direct dependents are homosexual, which has a direct effect on not only them, but all of the residents of the places where the law is in effect. This is why I did not want to give any examples because it leaves so much room for interpretation and slinging accusations. The point is the law applies to everyone, not just gays. The implication that it does not effect anyone else is a lie. Furthermore the constant accusations of bigotry, homophobia, etc placed upon anyone who dares raise this point is not only abusive but counterproductive to true equality.

False. It affects only gays... I don't even see how you can think otherwise...

And nobody accused you of bigotery. You were just told that your argument is stupid and false. Except for Popcorn1 of course but he keeps insulting and yelling on everyone so that doesn't count.

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[TECSHARE]

False. It affects only gays... I don't even see how you can think otherwise...

And nobody accused you of bigotery. You were just told that your argument is stupid and false. Except for Popcorn1 of course but he keeps insulting and yelling on everyone so that doesn't count.

Saying "false", and then not explaining your reasoning at all is not an argument. That is just you standing on a street corner with a bullhorn yelling your opinion at the world. Yes, more opinions my argument is "stupid & false", of course no reasoning behind it to back that up, it just is because I said so. You are right no one accused me of "bigotery", but popcorn is a perfect example of the hostility of the true believers who are "intolerant of intolerance" and think they are "evening things out" by attacking "the other side", when in reality we are all on the same side and he is actually driving people away from accepting homosexuals with his behavior. He is not exactly the best ambassador for the gay community (or the English speaking community either). I am glad you can designate him as "doesn't count" for me, otherwise I would have to make that decision for myself.

The fact is gay marriage effects everyone regardless of your denials. The law is designed to apply to everyone equally. The law does not verify your sexual preferences, it applies to all humans in the jurisdiction, and all humans in the jurisdiction pay the price of the legislation. Saying "false" does not make this less true, and denying anyone else a say in this situation is not equality, it is the creation of a "protected class" which we can not discuss without spiteful shitheels like popcorn on "both sides" of the fence demolishing anything resembling civil debate, thinking he is "winning" by doing so.

I'm straight and married and as far as I'm concerned, if two gay people want to get married, that's their business.  It's hard to criticize when a large percentage of traditional marriages end in divorce and there are a lot of other heterosexual relationships that produce children out of wedlock.

Yes it is upon their business. Besides business it's opposite to nature as well the creations. For some sort of need someone started regulating it which eventually got acceptance over other countries. This needs to be eliminated.

it's opposite to nature as well the creations..So why does it repeat over and over again in most species..And it's you who needs to be eliminated.ANOTHER THICK SHIT.

WHO ELSE WANTS TO GET THE PISS TAKEN OUT OF THEM
It be nice for subject to go because it's all lies but be my guest and try and i will rip you to shreds on this subject.HOW CAN ANYONE WIN AGAINST LOVE..So come and try

Actually, it makes it easier to criticize. Until the government got involved in marriage, the vast majority of them were successful. Now with no fault divorce, people (mostly women) are paid to break up their marriages and then either supported by their divorced partner and or the state. The government getting involved in marriage of any kind is a failure. Government involvement in marriage should be abolished for everyone. Now days more marriages fail than succeed. State marriage is simply a system to strip the population of its wealth by eating families, gay or straight.

I'm straight and married and as far as I'm concerned, if two gay people want to get married, that's their business.  It's hard to criticize when a large percentage of traditional marriages end in divorce and there are a lot of other heterosexual relationships that produce children out of wedlock.

My Thoughts Exactly! Thank you! I was planning to say almost the same words. We would have the right to be against the gay marriage only if all the heterosexual marriages were perfect. But since they are like Hell mostly why should we oppose something different?

Yes, like opposing government involvement in any marriage, straight or gay.

[popcorn1]

False. It affects only gays... I don't even see how you can think otherwise...

And nobody accused you of bigotery. You were just told that your argument is stupid and false. Except for Popcorn1 of course but he keeps insulting and yelling on everyone so that doesn't count.

Saying "false", and then not explaining your reasoning at all is not an argument. That is just you standing on a street corner with a bullhorn yelling your opinion at the world. Yes, more opinions my argument is "stupid & false", of course no reasoning behind it to back that up, it just is because I said so. You are right no one accused me of "bigotery", but popcorn is a perfect example of the hostility of the true believers who are "intolerant of intolerance" and think they are "evening things out" by attacking "the other side", when in reality we are all on the same side and he is actually driving people away from accepting homosexuals with his behavior. He is not exactly the best ambassador for the gay community (or the English speaking community either). I am glad you can designate him as "doesn't count" for me, otherwise I would have to make that decision for myself.

The fact is gay marriage effects everyone regardless of your denials. The law is designed to apply to everyone equally. The law does not verify your sexual preferences, it applies to all humans in the jurisdiction, and all humans in the jurisdiction pay the price of the legislation. Saying "false" does not make this less true, and denying anyone else a say in this situation is not equality, it is the creation of a "protected class" which we can not discuss without spiteful shitheels like popcorn on "both sides" of the fence demolishing anything resembling civil debate, thinking he is "winning" by doing so.

I'm straight and married and as far as I'm concerned, if two gay people want to get married, that's their business.  It's hard to criticize when a large percentage of traditional marriages end in divorce and there are a lot of other heterosexual relationships that produce children out of wedlock.

Yes it is upon their business. Besides business it's opposite to nature as well the creations. For some sort of need someone started regulating it which eventually got acceptance over other countries. This needs to be eliminated.

it's opposite to nature as well the creations..So why does it repeat over and over again in most species..And it's you who needs to be eliminated.ANOTHER THICK SHIT.

WHO ELSE WANTS TO GET THE PISS TAKEN OUT OF THEM
It be nice for subject to go because it's all lies but be my guest and try and i will rip you to shreds on this subject.HOW CAN ANYONE WIN AGAINST LOVE..So come and try

Actually, it makes it easier to criticize. Until the government got involved in marriage, the vast majority of them were successful. Now with no fault divorce, people (mostly women) are paid to break up their marriages and then either supported by their divorced partner and or the state. The government getting involved in marriage of any kind is a failure. Government involvement in marriage should be abolished for everyone. Now days more marriages fail than succeed. State marriage is simply a system to strip the population of its wealth by eating families, gay or straight.

I'm straight and married and as far as I'm concerned, if two gay people want to get married, that's their business.  It's hard to criticize when a large percentage of traditional marriages end in divorce and there are a lot of other heterosexual relationships that produce children out of wedlock.

My Thoughts Exactly! Thank you! I was planning to say almost the same words. We would have the right to be against the gay marriage only if all the heterosexual marriages were perfect. But since they are like Hell mostly why should we oppose something different?

Yes, like opposing government involvement in any marriage, straight or gay.

popcorn is a perfect example of the hostility of the true believers who are "intolerant of intolerance"You say..
Better than no rule with rules.

See the trouble is your saying its a discussion.When it's an insult..This is the same sort of discussion would you discuss this EXAMPLE.

Black people marriage will destabilise family life
Pakistani people marriage will destabilise family life
Ginger people marriage will destabilise family life
Fat people marriage will destabilise family life
Ugly people marriage will destabilise family life
Acne spotty people marriage will destabilise family life

When people get married is it guaranteed they will stay together for ever.When people split up is it nice for there kids to see the break up.

SO WHY PICK ON GAY PEOPLE THEN
6 examples lets discuss the 6 examples..NO.. why because it's all bullshit and insulting..
So TECSHARE carry on with your fight for NO RULES WITH RULES because you make no sense.

TECSHARE you say government gives us rules and you hate the rules .
So i suppose we need to live by your rules so now we would live under the TECSHARE rules?

So after all that fighting and killing we done for you defeating the government we got to live by your rules now..So all that fighting was for nothing..Back to square 1 with RULES.

How does life work without rules?

[TECSHARE]

popcorn is a perfect example of the hostility of the true believers who are "intolerant of intolerance"You say..
Better than no rule with rules.

See the trouble is your saying its a discussion.When it's an insult..This is the same sort of discussion would you discuss this EXAMPLE.

Black people marriage will destabilise family life
Pakistani people marriage will destabilise family life
Ginger people marriage will destabilise family life
Fat people marriage will destabilise family life
Ugly people marriage will destabilise family life
Acne spotty people marriage will destabilise family life

When people get married is it guaranteed they will stay together for ever.When people split up is it nice for there kids to see the break up.

SO WHY PICK ON GAY PEOPLE THEN
6 examples lets discuss the 6 examples..NO.. why because it's all bullshit and insulting..
So TECSHARE carry on with your fight for NO RULES WITH RULES because you make no sense.

TECSHARE you say government gives us rules and you hate the rules .
So i suppose we need to live by your rules so now we would live under the TECSHARE rules?

So after all that fighting and killing we done for you defeating the government we got to live by your rules now..So all that fighting was for nothing..Back to square 1 with RULES.

How does life work without rules?

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

[popcorn1]

Also you say I insult people.Does it feel horrible not nice ..
So imagine what gay people go threw everyday. If your offended by me imagine what gay people are feeling?.They get killed.
To many gay people scared to be free because of death hatred shun away.WHY
To many secret gays throwing stones"hypocrites"because of death hatred shun away.

Does it matter what consenting adults do with there lives as long as they hurt no one.
example say 5 people all loved each other would it matter if all 5 married each other if they hurt no one
There adults.
If a straight sex axeman killed another person in another city what affect does it have on your life if you don't know the person..Nothing you go arrr then carry on with your life..
So why would 2 gay people getting married bother you more than some killer axeman or some child dying of starvation
It's not being political correct it's called having a hart
So many people angry at gayness but not angry at child neglect child poverty jobs government for war
OH I forgot if people are gay they are to blame for all those reasons anyway..

Jungle people stand there naked with no shame
You do the same on a tube station will you feel ashamed ..WHY..Because you been told to feel like that
Well now your getting told to love gayness.. Because for thousands of years you been told gayness is a sin.When most creatures do it..So because of a few gay hating rulers.. everybody had to hate gay even if they where gay..
they had to hate themselves..SO SAD..WELL NO MORE..JUST LIKE THE JEWS NO MORE..

[popcorn1]

popcorn is a perfect example of the hostility of the true believers who are "intolerant of intolerance"You say..
Better than no rule with rules.

See the trouble is your saying its a discussion.When it's an insult..This is the same sort of discussion would you discuss this EXAMPLE.

Black people marriage will destabilise family life
Pakistani people marriage will destabilise family life
Ginger people marriage will destabilise family life
Fat people marriage will destabilise family life
Ugly people marriage will destabilise family life
Acne spotty people marriage will destabilise family life

When people get married is it guaranteed they will stay together for ever.When people split up is it nice for there kids to see the break up.

SO WHY PICK ON GAY PEOPLE THEN
6 examples lets discuss the 6 examples..NO.. why because it's all bullshit and insulting..
So TECSHARE carry on with your fight for NO RULES WITH RULES because you make no sense.

TECSHARE you say government gives us rules and you hate the rules .
So i suppose we need to live by your rules so now we would live under the TECSHARE rules?

So after all that fighting and killing we done for you defeating the government we got to live by your rules now..So all that fighting was for nothing..Back to square 1 with RULES.

How does life work without rules?

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

You have no logic.You do confuse me maybe I am to stupid..What's the picture for
What ever NO RULE WITH RULES

[Slow death]

I think gays are sick and need treatment ... we should not accept such a thing in society

[popcorn1]

I think gays are sick and need treatment ... we should not accept such a thing in society

I changed your name to hurry up and die cunt.Sounds better than slow death unless you get cancer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mppJxR5wPCw

[justspare]

Get over your stupid homophobia

Studies have shown that homophobia often means you are secretly gay...

http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html

Our paper describes six studies conducted in the United States and Germany involving 784 university students...
Using this methodology we identified a subgroup of participants who, despite self-identifying as highly straight, indicated some level of same-sex attraction
Over 20 percent of self-described highly straight individuals showed this discrepancy

I doubt that he is gay though. He is showing how being gay is bad. Whatever study you looked at is completely fake. Or you just made it up.

[Slow death]

I think gays are sick and need treatment ... we should not accept such a thing in society

I changed your name to hurry up and die cunt.Sounds better than slow death unless you get cancer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mppJxR5wPCw

ku ku ku

Do not tell me you're gay?

You ever seen porno gay?

Has anyone seen porno 2 men having sex? because I saw an accident and was quite disgusting.

Before seeing that film I accepted gay ... not had problems with them, but after seeing that movie only 3 minutes? I started to not like gays and every time I see a gay I want to throw up

[craked5]

I think gays are sick and need treatment ... we should not accept such a thing in society

I changed your name to hurry up and die cunt.Sounds better than slow death unless you get cancer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mppJxR5wPCw

ku ku ku

Do not tell me you're gay?

You ever seen porno gay?

Has anyone seen porno 2 men having sex? because I saw an accident and was quite disgusting.

Before seeing that film I accepted gay ... not had problems with them, but after seeing that movie only 3 minutes? I started to not like gays and every time I see a gay I want to throw up

Gays make you throw up but lesbians are ok I bet

[craked5]

I think gays are sick and need treatment ... we should not accept such a thing in society

And who are you to decide it? Do you have any argument to support such idea?

[JavaLove]

I am a fairly right leaning conservative however I don't think BEING gay is necessarily bad.

You should be able to date whomever you'd like. Whether female or male. You get to decide.

That's not to say that you can change the law based on your decisions, though. My opinion is that marriage is a very sacred tradition. It is something that has been respected for generations and we need to keep that respect. It should not be taken lightly and should not be seen as a joke. To me, marriage is something that should last for a lifetime, with no divorces.

Marriage is between a man and a woman for good reason. Both are the only ones that can have kids together and it's been set like this for a long time. I've seen many gay people before and they speak of marriage as a joke and make jokes about it. Some people get married and then OOPS in a year there's a divorce.

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

Reminder: I think gay people are fine. If my son/daughter told me they were gay I'd be fine and would support them as best I can. However, I feel marriage is something completely sacred and should be taken seriously. If you're not going to take it seriously, don't participate.

[popcorn1]

I am a fairly right leaning conservative however I don't think BEING gay is necessarily bad.

You should be able to date whomever you'd like. Whether female or male. You get to decide.

That's not to say that you can change the law based on your decisions, though. My opinion is that marriage is a very sacred tradition. It is something that has been respected for generations and we need to keep that respect. It should not be taken lightly and should not be seen as a joke. To me, marriage is something that should last for a lifetime, with no divorces.

Marriage is between a man and a woman for good reason. Both are the only ones that can have kids together and it's been set like this for a long time. I've seen many gay people before and they speak of marriage as a joke and make jokes about it. Some people get married and then OOPS in a year there's a divorce.

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

Reminder: I think gay people are fine. If my son/daughter told me they were gay I'd be fine and would support them as best I can. However, I feel marriage is something completely sacred and should be taken seriously. If you're not going to take it seriously, don't participate.

YOUR A FUCKIN JOKE..Who the fuck made you chief marriage dude of all sacred marriage's FUCKIN DICK..
You thick shit all marriage should be banned then DUMB ASS because it's straight couples who get divorced the most..
SACRED
Insulting little cunt..BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN fuckin wanker So gay people don't take there love for each other seriously FUCK YOU TWAT

Yes i know I am insulting and rude people keep telling me..  I am not an ass hole like some..I am a cunt to a cunt.and your a cunt

Why do people love bringing this insulting statement back up all the time..I wonder who will be my next victim  

Before you decide to bring this statement back up again ask your self this..Are you guaranteed to stay together till you die if 2 straight couples get married..ANSWER NO.So if your gay or straight makes no difference because both could end in divorce.
So the whole statement is a JOKE and so are you

[JavaLove]

I am a fairly right leaning conservative however I don't think BEING gay is necessarily bad.

You should be able to date whomever you'd like. Whether female or male. You get to decide.

That's not to say that you can change the law based on your decisions, though. My opinion is that marriage is a very sacred tradition. It is something that has been respected for generations and we need to keep that respect. It should not be taken lightly and should not be seen as a joke. To me, marriage is something that should last for a lifetime, with no divorces.

Marriage is between a man and a woman for good reason. Both are the only ones that can have kids together and it's been set like this for a long time. I've seen many gay people before and they speak of marriage as a joke and make jokes about it. Some people get married and then OOPS in a year there's a divorce.

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

Reminder: I think gay people are fine. If my son/daughter told me they were gay I'd be fine and would support them as best I can. However, I feel marriage is something completely sacred and should be taken seriously. If you're not going to take it seriously, don't participate.

YOUR A FUCKIN JOKE..Who the fuck made you chief marriage dude of all sacred marriage's FUCKIN DICK..
You thick shit all marriage should be banned then DUMB ASS because it's straight couples who get divorced the most..
SACRED
Insulting little cunt..BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN fuckin wanker So gay people don't take there love for each other seriously FUCK YOU TWAT

Yes i know I am insulting and rude people keep telling me..  I am not an ass hole like some..I am a cunt to a cunt.and your a cunt

Why do people love bringing this insulting statement back up all the time..I wonder who will be my next victim  

Before you decide to bring this statement back up again ask your self this..Are you guaranteed to stay together till you die if 2 straight couples get married..ANSWER NO.So if your gay or straight makes no difference because both could end in divorce.
So the whole statement is a JOKE and so are you

Who will be your next victim? No one's scared of you. No one's retreating to their mom because you called them a cunt.

I accept all opinions and of course I accept yours. You sound like an idiot but that's fine if you'd like to present yourself as such. To respond:

I don't care if gay men have sex, date what ever. I really don't. If you want to then go ahead by all means. If my son/daughter were to tell me they were gay I'd support them and still love them.

Marriage is something holy and sacred and should not be taken lightly. If you're getting married you should not be getting married with someone who you're going to get divorced with. I'm not saying make divorce harder but what I am saying is try and work things out with one another.

Gay men/women have made a mockery of marriage and the institution in recent years. Everyone just gets married now like there's no tomorrow. They get married with the first person they see.

Call me whatever you'd like I think marriage is sacred and SHOULD be kept that way. Want to be gay? Fine go ahead. Want to participate in a tradition we've been having for centuries? Sure, just follow the rules. Stop bringing your problems into it.

[Moloch]

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

You say some really ignorant bullshit...

But seriously... Do straight people have to prove marriage is not a joke to them also?

Do you agree that this statement is double-standard hypocritical bullshit?

[JavaLove]

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

You say some really ignorant bullshit...

But seriously... Do straight people have to prove marriage is not a joke to them also?

Do you agree that this statement is double-standard hypocritical bullshit?

Do you even know what the ignorant means? I don't mean to get hostile but seriously. Every time I have a discussion with a democrat they call me "ignorant". It simply means uninformed or uneducated. It doesn't mean anything else!

How do you know I am not gay? And what if I am? Will my previous statement on marriage still matter to you and would I still be ignorant?

But in regards to your question, I totally agree that everyone needs to start taking marriage seriously. This thread was specifically about gay marriage so that is why I am posting about it. I understand that there are all straights, gays and lesbians (and probably what ever else) who do not take marriage seriously. That being said, marriage is an institution that has existed for centuries and is a tradition. It must be respected. Of course we can make amendments to those traditions, I am not saying we can't. But those amendments must be compatible with the previous regulations/rules.

[popcorn1]

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

You say some really ignorant bullshit...

But seriously... Do straight people have to prove marriage is not a joke to them also?

Do you agree that this statement is double-standard hypocritical bullshit?

Do you even know what the ignorant means? I don't mean to get hostile but seriously. Every time I have a discussion with a democrat they call me "ignorant". It simply means uninformed or uneducated. It doesn't mean anything else!

How do you know I am not gay? And what if I am? Will my previous statement on marriage still matter to you and would I still be ignorant?

But in regards to your question, I totally agree that everyone needs to start taking marriage seriously. This thread was specifically about gay marriage so that is why I am posting about it. I understand that there are all straights, gays and lesbians (and probably what ever else) who do not take marriage seriously. That being said, marriage is an institution that has existed for centuries and is a tradition. It must be respected. Of course we can make amendments to those traditions, I am not saying we can't. But those amendments must be compatible with the previous regulations/rules.

Are you a strange gay You like tradition so much why don't you join the Dani Tribe
And also god hates gays..
This thread was specifically about gay marriage you say.Read the statement being made.
And if your gay your a thick shit..if 2 gay couples get married will the kids they have be fucked up kids
yes or no ?..
And also you fuckin moron how many gays do you know that say i am getting married then split up then get married then split up..Most gays that get married stay married not like straight couples marry 2 to 5 times over there life time.
where do you spend your nights in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdbt-sx5MDc

The question is not what do you think on gay marriage..It's saying if your gay and you get married your family will be a fucked up one lots of family problems is this true?
Because it's been proven to be a lie. Remember you can always join the Dani tribe if you love your tradition.
Did you get married and your lover left you because sounds like your pig sick over the split .Did he or she promise you the world and left you with nothing?A bitter gay are you..

Then if your not gay where is all these gays talking about marriage like it was a joke that you know of.
Or are you lying about the whole situation Which is it story 1 or 2..

Are you religious then it sums it all up A RELIGIOUS HATER.Everybody knows religious freaks hate gays.
You really are a plant pot it's not a debate it's an insult THICK SHIT
plus old testament was tradition why the new testament who decided to break that tradition..
So lets keep traditions king JavaLove likes only

[JavaLove]

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

You say some really ignorant bullshit...

But seriously... Do straight people have to prove marriage is not a joke to them also?

Do you agree that this statement is double-standard hypocritical bullshit?

Do you even know what the ignorant means? I don't mean to get hostile but seriously. Every time I have a discussion with a democrat they call me "ignorant". It simply means uninformed or uneducated. It doesn't mean anything else!

How do you know I am not gay? And what if I am? Will my previous statement on marriage still matter to you and would I still be ignorant?

But in regards to your question, I totally agree that everyone needs to start taking marriage seriously. This thread was specifically about gay marriage so that is why I am posting about it. I understand that there are all straights, gays and lesbians (and probably what ever else) who do not take marriage seriously. That being said, marriage is an institution that has existed for centuries and is a tradition. It must be respected. Of course we can make amendments to those traditions, I am not saying we can't. But those amendments must be compatible with the previous regulations/rules.

Are you a strange gay You like tradition so much why don't you join the Dani Tribe
And also god hates gays..
This thread was specifically about gay marriage you say.Read the statement being made.
And if your gay your a thick shit..if 2 gay couples get married will the kids they have be fucked up kids
yes or no ?..
And also you fuckin moron how many gays do you know that say i am getting married then split up then get married then split up..Most gays that get married stay married not like straight couples marry 2 to 5 times over there life time.
where do you spend your nights in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdbt-sx5MDc

The question is not what do you think on gay marriage..It's saying if your gay and you get married your family will be a fucked up one lots of family problems is this true?
Because it's been proven to be a lie. Remember you can always join the Dani tribe if you love your tradition.
Did you get married and your lover left you because sounds like your pig sick over the split .Did he or she promise you the world and left you with nothing?A bitter gay are you..

Then if your not gay where is all these gays talking about marriage like it was a joke that you know of.
Or are you lying about the whole situation Which is it story 1 or 2..

Are you religious then it sums it all up A RELIGIOUS HATER.Everybody knows religious freaks hate gays.
You really are a plant pot it's not a debate it's an insult THICK SHIT
plus old testament was tradition why the new testament who decided to break that tradition..
So lets keep traditions king JavaLove likes only

So there were a lot of questions asked here, totally disordered I may add.

I will start off by answering one of the questions: yes I am religious. If it wasn't obvious I am a Christian but I totally disagree with your statement. I wouldn't call myself a religious "freak" however I do defend my religion and believe highly in it. I don't agree where you said religious freaks hate gays. I don't hate ANYONE. You can call me moron, cunt, whatever I still don't hate you. Same thing with a gay person. As I said you don't even know if I am gay or not. If I am gay thanks for calling me thick shit. I guess it's a compliment.

The numbers on straight people getting divorced is higher than gay people because there are not as many gay people who are married yet. You've got to let the numbers come out. However, look at how most gay people view marriage. It's not usually in a good way. Now, they can say whatever they'd like I don't care however you should have respect for the institution that you are entering.

Again, marriage is an age old tradition. I never said it can't be changed. But, you referenced the thread, this thread is discussing if "gay marriage will destabilize family life" which is totally true. The family tradition was a man and a woman. I don't care in which way you spin it, that's already a destabilization.

I need to repeat myself: you can be with a guy, you can be with a girl but marriage is a tradition that has existed for generations. Just because you want to date someone/something (because some people actually want to date objects) different doesn't mean you should participate in the tradition. If it's existed for years, then go along with your daily life. It's not a requirement to be married and if you want to be married, go with the opposite sex.

Finally: I like the last sentence. Going with traditions "King JavaLove" only likes sounds great to me.

[popcorn1]

I feel like gay people have twisted their own words and made themselves look like a joke. Right now, you can marry anyone you'd like. However that shouldn't be the case until they can actually prove that marriage is not a joke to them.

You say some really ignorant bullshit...

But seriously... Do straight people have to prove marriage is not a joke to them also?

Do you agree that this statement is double-standard hypocritical bullshit?

Do you even know what the ignorant means? I don't mean to get hostile but seriously. Every time I have a discussion with a democrat they call me "ignorant". It simply means uninformed or uneducated. It doesn't mean anything else!

How do you know I am not gay? And what if I am? Will my previous statement on marriage still matter to you and would I still be ignorant?

But in regards to your question, I totally agree that everyone needs to start taking marriage seriously. This thread was specifically about gay marriage so that is why I am posting about it. I understand that there are all straights, gays and lesbians (and probably what ever else) who do not take marriage seriously. That being said, marriage is an institution that has existed for centuries and is a tradition. It must be respected. Of course we can make amendments to those traditions, I am not saying we can't. But those amendments must be compatible with the previous regulations/rules.

Are you a strange gay You like tradition so much why don't you join the Dani Tribe
And also god hates gays..
This thread was specifically about gay marriage you say.Read the statement being made.
And if your gay your a thick shit..if 2 gay couples get married will the kids they have be fucked up kids
yes or no ?..
And also you fuckin moron how many gays do you know that say i am getting married then split up then get married then split up..Most gays that get married stay married not like straight couples marry 2 to 5 times over there life time.
where do you spend your nights in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdbt-sx5MDc

The question is not what do you think on gay marriage..It's saying if your gay and you get married your family will be a fucked up one lots of family problems is this true?
Because it's been proven to be a lie. Remember you can always join the Dani tribe if you love your tradition.
Did you get married and your lover left you because sounds like your pig sick over the split .Did he or she promise you the world and left you with nothing?A bitter gay are you..

Then if your not gay where is all these gays talking about marriage like it was a joke that you know of.
Or are you lying about the whole situation Which is it story 1 or 2..

Are you religious then it sums it all up A RELIGIOUS HATER.Everybody knows religious freaks hate gays.
You really are a plant pot it's not a debate it's an insult THICK SHIT
plus old testament was tradition why the new testament who decided to break that tradition..
So lets keep traditions king JavaLove likes only

So there were a lot of questions asked here, totally disordered I may add.

I will start off by answering one of the questions: yes I am religious. If it wasn't obvious I am a Christian but I totally disagree with your statement. I wouldn't call myself a religious "freak" however I do defend my religion and believe highly in it. I don't agree where you said religious freaks hate gays. I don't hate ANYONE. You can call me moron, cunt, whatever I still don't hate you. Same thing with a gay person. As I said you don't even know if I am gay or not. If I am gay thanks for calling me thick shit. I guess it's a compliment.

The numbers on straight people getting divorced is higher than gay people because there are not as many gay people who are married yet. You've got to let the numbers come out. However, look at how most gay people view marriage. It's not usually in a good way. Now, they can say whatever they'd like I don't care however you should have respect for the institution that you are entering.

Again, marriage is an age old tradition. I never said it can't be changed. But, you referenced the thread, this thread is discussing if "gay marriage will destabilize family life" which is totally true. The family tradition was a man and a woman. I don't care in which way you spin it, that's already a destabilization.

I need to repeat myself: you can be with a guy, you can be with a girl but marriage is a tradition that has existed for generations. Just because you want to date someone/something (because some people actually want to date objects) different doesn't mean you should participate in the tradition. If it's existed for years, then go along with your daily life. It's not a requirement to be married and if you want to be married, go with the opposite sex.

Finally: I like the last sentence. Going with traditions "King JavaLove" only likes sounds great to me.

I bet you it does..Religious gay hater now were getting to the real story.All this bullshit i don't hate gays or nobody Typical of bible basher's not all but most of you are 2 faced mother fuckers.
So enjoy your day KING JAVALOVE showed your true colours Thanks gay hater
Much better to speak the truth instead of talking bullshit straight to the point saves time..