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February 25, 2016, 11:49:59 PM
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... "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse."

We are currently under DDoS counterattack.

Fixed it for you.

Mess with the honey badger and you get the claws.  Plus the teeth.



Scumbag tactics from the "economic majority".  Roll Eyes Color me unsurprised.

Scumbag tactics?  You mean like attempting to force a contentious hard fork at a 75/25 split with only 28 days warning, while using FUD as a thin wedge to insert a governance coup?

Don't cry to me when you poke the Honey Badger and he rips your face off.  You knew that was bound to happen.  Remember XT?  LAAAWL!

The HK meeting was far more effective at getting agreement than a few bits sent at mining pools or nodes. The day when Bitcoin needs individuals to perform DDoS attacks to survive is a day when the Honey Badger is on life support.

Honey Badger doesn't need to rip your face off if you tickle him.  That's just how he rolls.

Write his obituary if it makes you feel better about delicate snowflake Classic's utter lack of antifragility.  He doesn't really give a damn.


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February 25, 2016, 11:56:32 PM
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... "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse."

We are currently under DDoS counterattack.

Fixed it for you.

Mess with the honey badger and you get the claws.  Plus the teeth.



Scumbag tactics from the "economic majority".  Roll Eyes Color me unsurprised.

Scumbag tactics?  You mean like attempting to force a contentious hard fork at a 75/25 split with only 28 days warning, while using FUD as a thin wedge to insert a governance coup?

Don't cry to me when you poke the Honey Badger and he rips your face off.  You knew that was bound to happen.  Remember XT?  LAAAWL!

The HK meeting was far more effective at getting agreement than a few bits sent at mining pools or nodes. The day when Bitcoin needs individuals to perform DDoS attacks to survive is a day when the Honey Badger is on life support.

Honey Badger doesn't need to rip your face off if you tickle him.  That's just how he rolls.

Write his obituary if it makes you feel better about delicate snowflake Classic's utter lack of antifragility.  He doesn't really give a damn.

My opinion is that there is no relevance between DDoS, Honey Badgers and Classic - it's all just a semi-annoying by-product of individuals who feel their ideology is threatened. If the network users decide that there are to be larger blocks, there will be larger blocks. If not, there won't be. XT died because end users said so.

A HF to 2MB blocks in 2016 is debatable at this point. In 2017, I think that most agree it's happening one way or another.

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February 26, 2016, 12:02:29 AM
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A HF to 2MB blocks in 2016 is debatable at this point. In 2017, I think that most agree it's happening one way or another.

Last year the XT pushers told us

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A HF to 8MB blocks in 2015 is debatable at this point. In 2016, I think that most agree it's happening one way or another.

If Classic can't shrug off a few silly script kiddies and their flimsy DDoS attacks, why does it deserve to replace Core?


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February 26, 2016, 12:07:12 AM
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A HF to 2MB blocks in 2016 is debatable at this point. In 2017, I think that most agree it's happening one way or another.

Last year the XT pushers told us

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A HF to 8MB blocks in 2015 is debatable at this point. In 2016, I think that most agree it's happening one way or another.

If Classic can't shrug off a few silly script kiddies and their flimsy DDoS attacks, why does it deserve to replace Core?

I agree, Classic hasn't earned the right to replace Core. It has however influenced Core to improve communication, meet with miners and likely to update (euphemism clarify) the roadmap. Competition, even if uneven is a good thing.

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February 26, 2016, 12:12:23 AM
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And this thread is still about f2pool?  Roll Eyes Split coming up soon.

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February 26, 2016, 03:54:57 AM
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A HF to 2MB blocks in 2016 is debatable at this point. In 2017, I think that most agree it's happening one way or another.

Last year the XT pushers told us

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A HF to 8MB blocks in 2015 is debatable at this point. In 2016, I think that most agree it's happening one way or another.

If Classic can't shrug off a few silly script kiddies and their flimsy DDoS attacks, why does it deserve to replace Core?

You do realize that Classic is Core with a few parameter tweaks, right?  I'm generally pretty agreeable around here, but are you actually mentally challenged?
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February 26, 2016, 03:56:18 AM
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We are currently under DDoS attack.

Were you running Classic? Wink

Pretty sure they still are.  But fuck F2 for giving users a choice of what implementation they'd like to see, right?  Resorting to DDoS attacks to try and prevent Classic just proves that small block supporters are getting desperate.
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February 26, 2016, 04:59:58 AM
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Fixed it for you.

Mess with the honey badger and you get the claws.  Plus the teeth.







Really icebreaker? So you are endorsing DDoS attacks now? So much for consensus.

Anyway, it's pretty clear to me that the weaker side is the one that has to resort to using force to get their way. Core will fall, you can count on it.
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February 26, 2016, 07:11:15 AM
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I don't hear coredevs or blockstream condemning the DDOS attacks.

Thanks f2pool for standing up!


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February 26, 2016, 07:13:30 AM
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I don't hear coredevs or blockstream condemning the DDOS attacks.

Thanks f2pool for standing up!


Meh, it is just the free market doing its thing.

You wanted competition? there ya go.. teh interwebz is mean y know.




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February 26, 2016, 07:31:54 AM
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We are currently under DDoS counterattack.

Fixed it for you.

Mess with the honey badger and you get the claws.  Plus the teeth.



Dumbest counterattack ever.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/47luh3/f2pool_is_under_ddos_attack/d0dxlvr
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February 26, 2016, 07:56:47 AM
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We are currently under DDoS counterattack.

Fixed it for you.

Mess with the honey badger and you get the claws.  Plus the teeth.



Dumbest counterattack ever.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/47luh3/f2pool_is_under_ddos_attack/d0dxlvr

Hah, yeah I saw that.

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February 26, 2016, 07:57:02 AM
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Indeed. And I don't understand why people like iCEBREAKER and hdbuck, who clearly have the mental age of a toddler judging by their tantrums, are still taken seriously by people here.

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Indeed. And I don't understand why people like iCEBREAKER and hdbuck, who clearly have the mental age of a toddler judging by their tantrums, are still taken seriously by people here.

They're the hard core of the Core.

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Indeed. And I don't understand why people like iCEBREAKER and hdbuck, who clearly have the mental age of a toddler judging by their tantrums, are still taken seriously by people here.

They're the hard core of the Core.

If that's the case, Core is lost.

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February 26, 2016, 11:48:26 AM
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Pretty sure they still are.  But fuck F2 for giving users a choice of what implementation they'd like to see, right?  Resorting to DDoS attacks to try and prevent Classic just proves that small block supporters are getting desperate.
I'm surprised by how easy it is to manipulate you guys. It could have easily been a Classic supporter that was doing this in order to make it look like it was someone from Core. This is becoming a joke. It is quite unfortunate that this is happening to F2Pool, but don't make blind accusations.


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February 26, 2016, 06:48:20 PM
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Pretty sure they still are.  But fuck F2 for giving users a choice of what implementation they'd like to see, right?  Resorting to DDoS attacks to try and prevent Classic just proves that small block supporters are getting desperate.
I'm surprised by how easy it is to manipulate you guys. It could have easily been a Classic supporter that was doing this in order to make it look like it was someone from Core. This is becoming a joke. It is quite unfortunate that this is happening to F2Pool, but don't make blind accusations.

Oh really? So the same thing happening to XT was just a coincidence?

Are DDoS False flags really a thing now?

I think it's more likely that the people who have financial incentive invested in seeing one side succeed over the other would engage in these tactics.
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February 26, 2016, 06:50:27 PM
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I think it's more likely that the people who have financial incentive invested in seeing one side succeed over the other would engage in these tactics.
So both sides? Great, this helps out out.

Oh really? So the same thing happening to XT was just a coincidence?
What makes you think that XT nodes were the only ones under DDoS at that time?


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February 26, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
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Announcement: We will withdraw support from February 21’s roundtable consensus, unless Adam Back gives us a reasonable explanation why he quietly changed his title from Blockstream President to Individual at the very last moment — without anybody noticed. We feel we’ve been cheated. I don’t know how we can trust Blockstream anymore in the future.

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