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February 27, 2016, 05:39:55 PM
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Bitcoin is the digital equivalent of physical cash in your hand.

You don't need a terminal when you buy a beer at a pub with the $10 in your pocket. You don't need a merchant terminal for that service. I can put money in a laundry machine without it going to Visa to authorize it. If the vender wishes to give me a receipt, I can take it if I want too and they can print it as necessary, but there never has to be a record of every physical cash transaction.

So if there is any legal front against Bitcoin, they would have to do the same thing to their physical currency in their own country. Physical currency transactions are also anonymous. Drug dealers use cash for transactions, so those transactions are not the issue. The drugs are the problem and the proof is that if money is not exchanged at the same time the drugs are, then someone is just giving drugs to someone, while a buddy owes me rent money and so it isn't drug dealing. So Bitcoin does not participate in those things at all simply because of the reasons attached to each transaction, which has to be proven and it has nothing to do with Bitcoin, but the transactional reason. Bitcoin has nothing to do with that. That is their world and the world of Bitcoin is creating a digital currency like physical hard cash. It isn't illegal unless physical cash is also illegal in that country, which it isn't and that means Bitcoin is legal.

In order to "fix" Bitcoin, you have to "fix" physical cash and if physical cash is fixed, then so is Bitcoin. What can't be done while using Bitcoin must also not be done with physical cash.

Until they can do that, they can't do anything to Bitcoin...

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February 27, 2016, 05:47:03 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ04WbgI9rg

Because if you fight to protect people's privacy, you are fighting for freedom.

In order to destroy freedoms in a country, you need people's private information in order to do that. If privacy is destroyed, then so is freedom by definition.

Therefore, if you enforce privacy, then you are fighting for freedom.

If you defend other people's privacy, then you are defending freedom.

Now you know.

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February 27, 2016, 06:26:42 PM
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I might want to remind you about the limitations of such an illegal move.

If your choice is to state that I sent $500,000 to buy a house, when in fact is was for drugs, you need to show the house to prove you bought it, or more questions will come up because you lied to the cops. You can't just state large purchases were made when you have nothing to show for it. It might be possible with small deals, as the explanation could be he owes me for the beers I bought last week, but know that gambling debt as a reason can only be so one time. As how many gambling debts does this guy have?

The logic based upon the reason for the transaction has nothing to do with Bitcoin, but an investigation by the law would reveal the truth in what is going on, for it would go on anyways without Bitcoin and so Bitcoin is a separate issue that is outside any criminal activity. Bitcoin is not at fault in any capacity with any illegal activities and nor is this post. This is freedom we are talking about, so this poster should have the freedom to state such words. Freedom is the reason for security and freedom creates new ideas that expand us into new places we know nothing about. The reason is because you are free to be wrong and in the exploration of right and wrong, we find the truth. It is within the truth that a new idea is born, like Bitcoin, to create something we all wanted that answers an issue we are currently having. That is the truth for all wrongs and rights in the world and the freedom to be wrong or right is what freedom is about and it expands the economy as well as security, technology and our lives. The freedom to have an opinion and express it for the purposes does so many things and that is why we defend freedom, which in this case is about enforcing privacy.

I also want to state this fact that it is the people that should decide if someone private information should be uncovered because there is reasonable proof that the security of the people is at risk and that information is required to make the people safe. That is when a judge steps in for the people to make the decision to invade a person's privacy to ensure that freedom is not being destroyed by doing so. A judge's warrant ensures that freedom exists in the country because then an innocent person's privacy is not being destroyed for their whole lifetime, like other dictatorships like to run their country. Therefore, the notion of privacy secures freedom, but freedom can only be in place if a judge's warrant is issued to violate the privacy of those people.

If there is no warrant process and privacy is being breached, then that is a system where freedom no longer exists.

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February 27, 2016, 07:59:16 PM
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Now that I have the microphone, I wish to make this one statement.

Did anybody else think that Star Wars The Force Awakens SUCKED?

I mean they better fill in those holes in the plot for the next movie or there is going to be some serious disappointment. I want to feel like my father did when he saw Star Wars for the first time and was blown away. That's what I was expecting, but instead it was just a movie that I would say was an average stupid movie. It was suppose to be better.

Like throw in something like Luke used the force and figured out a new way to deal with the dark side by inserting some force that manipulates the dark side. Like creating some dissent in the stormtroopers with some say jokes using the force or something like that to make the troopers laugh and then the troopers get shot on the spot for laughing when they are not allowed too. It would be a magical moment as Jedi can use the dark side against them. Then because the force awakens in the stormtroopers because of Luke, they started to change their DNA or something like that and that's why they look like that.

Something. They have to do a miracle and then I will think that was a Star Wars epic, as that was just some other movie.

Boooooooooo new Star Wars movies.

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February 27, 2016, 08:47:36 PM
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5 Bitcoins says that Luke Skywalker is going to be made out to be a pussy and a loser in the next Star Wars movie.

[JJ Abrams with a pouty face and his arms crossed]
But I wanted to be Luke Skywalker...

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February 28, 2016, 03:42:50 AM
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One possible argument against this - moving large amounts of cash out of the country is illegal. If you had a million dollars on you in cash, you would be questioned about this at the airport. Bitcoin helps circumvent all this.


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February 28, 2016, 03:56:29 AM
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One possible argument against this - moving large amounts of cash out of the country is illegal. If you had a million dollars on you in cash, you would be questioned about this at the airport. Bitcoin helps circumvent all this.

But if I spend a million dollars buying bitcoin and then move that bitcoin out of the country, the million dollars I spent are still in this country. And since bitcoin isn't physical, they aren't "moved".

I hereby reserve the right to sometimes be wrong
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February 28, 2016, 06:02:48 AM
Last edit: February 28, 2016, 04:32:53 PM by Bitware
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That song is about eating pussy.
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February 28, 2016, 12:49:10 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmi60Bd4jSs

If you are against freedom, then you are for slavery.

If you fight to control, then you are a slave owner seeking more slaves.

If you have the words 'You are not allowed to do that' in your vocabulary, then you are a slave owner and believe in slavery, not freedom.

If you seeking to invade privacy, you destroy freedom and create slaves, as how do you know what I am doing and why do you think I cannot do that. It is not against the law. If it is NOT against the law in those thing called Acts and Human Rights codes, then I am allowed to do that. That is what laws are for and human rights codes, as they explain what is allowed to be done in the country and if you disagree, then you are against freedom and promote slavery.

If you seek to control people, you are making people slaves.

Because I know.

But you don't.

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February 28, 2016, 01:34:19 PM
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Really.

What do I look like?

Really.

I have yet to talk to you.

Really.

There is a difference between knowing someone and knowing someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSf_cs4-E-I

Come say hi. Oh ya. Time and Space.

Seems that thing called time and space is securing me.

Then when you figure that out, you have to talk to me.

Lets see you do that.

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February 28, 2016, 01:48:40 PM
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I have done nothing wrong and you know that.

If you can pickup women, then you might have a chance.

If you can make friends with strangers, then you have a better chance.

But I can see you.

That's all you need to know because if you are lying, I know this truth.

You know you are lying.

Now lets see what you do while you lie trying to hold some truth some where. I can see that discrepancy, so if you wish to continue...

At least know what you're doing.

Because if it is something wrong, you might want to rethink that.

Because I am doing everything right because this is not wrong.

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February 28, 2016, 02:00:43 PM
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i can't see anything.
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February 28, 2016, 02:36:05 PM
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Bitcoin is the digital equivalent of physical cash in your hand.

You don't need a terminal when you buy a beer at a pub with the $10 in your pocket. You don't need a merchant terminal for that service. I can put money in a laundry machine without it going to Visa to authorize it. If the vender wishes to give me a receipt, I can take it if I want too and they can print it as necessary, but there never has to be a record of every physical cash transaction.

So if there is any legal front against Bitcoin, they would have to do the same thing to their physical currency in their own country. Physical currency transactions are also anonymous. Drug dealers use cash for transactions, so those transactions are not the issue. The drugs are the problem and the proof is that if money is not exchanged at the same time the drugs are, then someone is just giving drugs to someone, while a buddy owes me rent money and so it isn't drug dealing. So Bitcoin does not participate in those things at all simply because of the reasons attached to each transaction, which has to be proven and it has nothing to do with Bitcoin, but the transactional reason. Bitcoin has nothing to do with that. That is their world and the world of Bitcoin is creating a digital currency like physical hard cash. It isn't illegal unless physical cash is also illegal in that country, which it isn't and that means Bitcoin is legal.

In order to "fix" Bitcoin, you have to "fix" physical cash and if physical cash is fixed, then so is Bitcoin. What can't be done while using Bitcoin must also not be done with physical cash.

Until they can do that, they can't do anything to Bitcoin...

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yes your statement absoluely right,but you also have to considering about decentralization of bitcoin it self,how can crypto currency wlk without any rules?even that crypto stand on ruled and democratic state?

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February 28, 2016, 03:33:41 PM
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You don’t know what the definition of a pussy is, so don’t even try it.

A pussy needs a weapon to beat somebody up because they are so afraid of losing that they need that advantage to ensure that they win because the guy they wish to beat up is so damn tough that you need that weapon.

Oh. You don’t use weapons. Okay well you need at least one more person to beat the crap out of that guy you call a pussy. That guy has to be the toughest person in the room because you need four guys to punch him. Oh you lost the fight and NOW you need the four guys. You would HAVE to be a pussy if you needed four guys to punch one dude. That guy has to be ridiculously tough because not only does he take your beats, but he comes back to school the next day to take it again. He just takes the beats all the time and then you call HIM a pussy. How does that make any sense?

Oh. You have to be a damn UFC fighter now to beat up and a guy half your size so you can turn around and say you are so tough. You pick fights with people in wheelchairs apparently because to think that a fair fight is possible when you walk in the ring with someone who has never had UFC training or could be injured or is half the size of you means it is RIDICULOUS to think you are tough.

If you are tough, go join an MMA gym as at least they have rules to make it so there are no weapons in the octagon, there can be no extra people, there is no size advantage and you can’t fight unless you are healthy.

Oh ya. I forgot about that other thing called consent. You have to want to fight and say Yes in order to step into that ring. Because without that urge and passion to knock some skulls, I ain’t jumping in that ring. If you think this is a sport, go with those other people who agree and join UFC. Oh look at the pussy now. He no longer wants to fight simply because he knows he will lose.

How tough are you now?

Oh that tough. You start yammering on about how ‘I can’t do it Captain. I don’t have the power.’ That’s frick’n Star Trek not Star Wars you idiot…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnP5iDKwuwk

Then you go on and on about how I can’t find this guy in the midst of time and space. He’s all over the place and I have no idea what’s going on… I don’t know what to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA

Oh the Wookies. They are geniuses. If you hear when they talk, you can see all the valuable Yodaisms that they said in Star Wars The Force Awakens. If you just understood Chewy you would see that it is identical to the last Star Wars. You are all wrong. JJ Abrams did get Chewy to talk like Yoda. You just don’t understand him.
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February 28, 2016, 03:43:13 PM
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I completely agree that we need a whole new polticial and marketing approach for bitcoin. But, has anyone found a good plan yet?
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February 28, 2016, 03:49:40 PM
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Bitcoin is the digital equivalent of physical cash in your hand.

You don't need a terminal when you buy a beer at a pub with the $10 in your pocket. You don't need a merchant terminal for that service. I can put money in a laundry machine without it going to Visa to authorize it. If the vender wishes to give me a receipt, I can take it if I want too and they can print it as necessary, but there never has to be a record of every physical cash transaction.

So if there is any legal front against Bitcoin, they would have to do the same thing to their physical currency in their own country.
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Until they can do that, they can't do anything to Bitcoin...

Eh...

Let me explain to you how things work IRL:
"They" don't have to do anything. If "they" decide that BTC causes more harm than good, "they" will ban it.

"They" would have banned cash a long time ago, if the only unique use scenarios for cash were buying drugs, child porn, extortion & ransomware.
It may surprise you to learn that cash is often used by the unbanked to buy food for their children and gas for their cars, and to pay rent. In other words, unlike Bitcoin, cash is necessary for Normal_People to do their Normal_People, not illegal, shit. Unlike Bitcoin.
That's why cash hasn't been banned Smiley
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February 28, 2016, 04:06:57 PM
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I get it. You want to know my name. I put a little video together for ya...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMxGVfk09lU

Time and space is the problem. They figured out that I am from Canada. That's an awesome start considering it is the second largest land mass in the world. So they got to Step 1. Now what do you do...
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February 28, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
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That song is about eating pussy.

'Eating pussy' is slang for cunnilingus... Sexually pleasing a woman, orally.

Thats is what that song is about.

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=2432

Yes, a pussy is also a coward, but not within the context of the song you posted. You are interpreting the lyrics and meaning of the song incorrectly.

I am not disagreeing with the other stuff you've written here.
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February 28, 2016, 06:27:46 PM
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With increasing role in global affairs, it is perhaps not surprising that some governments and politicians are embracing innovations such as blockchain technology. This, however, is not the first time bitcoin and politics have come face to face.
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February 28, 2016, 06:35:41 PM
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True and I would imagine someone will be coming face to face with myself. So let this be a lesson to you.

Are you someone I wish to speak too?

No.

YES YOU ARE. WHY ARE YOU NOT LISTENING TO ME?

Because you are nuts. You think this is how you start a conversation to get to know someone. I would hate for you to see you approach a woman and do that to them, as clearly you are creepy and insane. Either that or you bumble it up so that I would think it odd if your first weird question was 'Do you want to be my friend?'. NO.

YES YOU DO.

OH MY GOD YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT.

Okay. Lets put an end to this shall we, as this is actually what I am going to do in the particular time and space conundrum that I am currently having. I wish to point out the time element in the word currently. If you talk to me I will be saying nothing but thinking you are crazy and insane. I will say nothing while thinking to myself 'Who else is in the room that you just identified yourself too?'.

Oh the people that you never watch. They seem to be watching you though, and you have no idea about that. So when you come and say hi face to face, remember that the other people in the room want to know who you are more so then who I am. Remember that, for I am not getting involved, so I ain't saying anything.

Because if that conversation that I started is what you are going to talk to me about... Well goodbye then dear sir or madam. I am afraid the essence of your safety is none of your own concern and that just puts my in a risky situation if I open my mouth. I wish to warn you and that is what this message is about, as I can't do it in the moment of time and space where we do meet up.

Just thought I'd let you know... eh....
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