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Question: What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get

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April 16, 2016, 04:43:39 AM
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Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?
it's better to get salary depends on how hard works we do. if our works need much power or much thinking, the salary should be big then.

I think it's not fair to get the same salary in doing different level of difficulty.

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April 16, 2016, 06:12:53 AM
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Money and people are related each other.Money can made chance to peoples mind. And people can made money.
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April 16, 2016, 06:16:36 AM
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you have to believe that live is unfair. money can not distributed equally between people because if that happen, noone will do his work and money will be useless. So everyone have to work hard in order to earn some money

perfectly agreed .. life is unequitable for humanity.. incomes can not be allocated equally because of our modern world 's economical systems. so everybody have to work hard for money ..
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April 16, 2016, 09:31:39 AM
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Money changes people when they don't respect it and it comes back to bite them. It's important as a way of getting through but experience has taught that having too much breeds unhappiness and misfortune. The more you have the more likely you will lose it!
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April 16, 2016, 10:19:13 AM
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the sincerity of people will come out at that time when have alot of money and you borrowed some and they refused at your face.
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April 16, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
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Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

First, government can't create something from nothing, even money Smiley
In order that government can have money, first they have to collect it from the taxes.
In order to collect taxes, some people should earn money first.
In order that people can earn some money, jobs are needed.
There a no jobs without government regulations and no government regulations without government Smiley
So, everything is connected.
Government don't have absolute freedom to do whatever they wants with public money.
It's naive way of thinking.
They have to give salary to many workers in the government offices, army, public health industry etc.
They also have to pay for national loans, cover international cost for international organization as World bank, Unite Nations etc.
So it's impossible that government can share all money with people, even small amount of public money is difficult to share, because of so many different agendas and interests in society.
Yes, people should receive salary for their work but if they work in private area, they can't request government to give them salary.
It will be strange to do such thing.

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April 16, 2016, 02:28:00 PM
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I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers Grin) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.
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April 16, 2016, 11:07:18 PM
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I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers Grin) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.

More you work, more will be your earning but here as mentioned every user has a unique perspective about their own job. The pay or money they get is totally upon the universal analysis and acceptance.

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April 16, 2016, 11:37:02 PM
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Its not about diving money in my view.

Op has a bit flawed, and should be can everyone pay their fair share of taxes according to how much they make.

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April 17, 2016, 04:59:02 AM
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Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

You don't have to imagine: something like that was tried in the real world after the U.S.S.R. imploded. When it came time to desocialize, the new Russian government decided that the best way was to issue shares in State-owned enterprises to everyone. It was like a gigantic "Free and Fair Distribution" experiment - and it had the same results.

Most of the folks who got their shares said, "Yay! Free money!" and sold their shares for whatever they could get. The biggest buyers with the most liquid bids - those folks were the first oligarchs.

"Pareto's Law" lives. What was interesting about the '14 Free-And-Fair fad is that it showed why Pareto's Principle worked. The ones who "scooped up all the money" were a mixture of bad and good, but what they had in common was that they were more future-oriented.

Funny that a big swinging whale would have so much in common with a bagholder, but there you go.

Without context people could think you were right. Truth is more complicated. Before the first shares were issued the russian people had been under extreme austerity measures. Very high taxes and interest rates, so no borrowing or financing for many industries and businesses, very big cuts to welfare programs, high unemployment, hyperinflation, etc. It's not that the oligarchs were more future oriented as you say. It's that they weren't at risk of being homeless or starving. So could take advantage of the shares and buy shares from others. Something most people couldn't afford. Easy to see when you look at who many of them are: old business managers and other party insiders. And the other privatizations they did after were worse. Just fraud nothing else.
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April 17, 2016, 09:36:38 AM
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this is the right way that the more you work the more you get.
and money and people are two opposite things.
one with money will be just a man without feelings.
and some one with money will be a man with a good heart.
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April 17, 2016, 12:04:54 PM
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I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers Grin) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.

Indeed, even school teachers rant about McDonald's employees getting more paid than teachers do. Well if they've got a problem with their salary, they can always switch to another job. My point is, people are free to choose what to do in life so we do not have the rights to rant if we think some people are getting paid more with their easy job.


Money and people are related each other.Money can made chance to peoples mind. And people can made money.

Some people change their behavior whenever the topic is changed to money. Some people use money as an inspiration to do their tasks but this actually just make a person greedier. Although we can always make money when there's an opportunity, our nature makes us greedier whenever we once handle a big amount of money.

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April 17, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
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They should spend all of the money on removing greed from humans and then letting them graze with no concept of money at all.
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April 17, 2016, 02:07:08 PM
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I think we should all be equally payed, but on the other hand some jobs require harder work or are more complicated that they should be payed more for
else people would not do the job if they get payed the same amount but the job is much easier,
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April 18, 2016, 12:26:42 AM
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I love money, and its pretty easy to make because you need to discover the right investments that earn you a lot.

For example its pretty easy to double your BTC in a few days!
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April 18, 2016, 02:20:42 AM
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Some people change their behavior whenever the topic is changed to money. Some people use money as an inspiration to do their tasks but this actually just make a person greedier.

And more money isn't a great incentive. Not for most types of work. Useful for repetitive work but not for more complicated things. There are better ways of motivating people. Like giving them a job where they can grow and be recognized by others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKKPQiRRag
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April 18, 2016, 02:42:59 AM
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isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.

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April 18, 2016, 04:05:26 AM
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isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.


Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.



They should spend all of the money on removing greed from humans and then letting them graze with no concept of money at all.


I doubt this will have a positive outcome. If they remove all the greedy people on Earth, then no one's going to be left here. All of us are greedy in our different ways. Some are greedy for food, money, love, sex, and etc. Our nature is to want more of what we have. We can't control ourselves, we are nothing but greedy people no matter how we deny it.

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April 18, 2016, 04:19:03 AM
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isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.


Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

you just repeated what i just said you just made it longer and more detailed.

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April 18, 2016, 04:47:12 AM
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isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.


Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

you just repeated what i just said you just made it longer and more detailed.


I don't want to spoonfeed here but I did not repeat your post and just make it longer because I disagreed with your post. Roll Eyes

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Although I DON'T think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

The highlighted part should let you know that my point contradicts yours.

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