Money and people

[kryptqnick]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

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[stiffbud]

In order for people to be equal then all people should be able to do the same as well.
It seem not right to see an uneducated person having a salary that is equal to a very educated person ho has a lot to bring for the society. Think of it.

[bitbunnny]

To be equal in anything is unfortunetely just a dream. Especialy when we are talking about money. There will be always people who will have more then they need and those who doesn't have for a decent living. And nobody can change that.

[doriangray]

There will be no equality when greed takes over people's mind. They often take advantage of other's weaknesses. In the end, those who work hard will not prosper while those greedy people will earn more money.

[Snail2]

I voted for "the more you work the more you get" option, but I was wrong. Working not necessary means production or services for others benefit. Unfortunately positive contributions are not easy to measure. An artist can have more positive effect on people in two minutes than an accountant in 8 hours, however in most cases the accountant makes the more important work.

[sallymeeh27]

I believe that people who work as hard as they do should receive a higher money unlike people who are not taking serious work or lesser work should be paid less in money, even they are instances that rates may follow due to education gained by the person. Knowledge and skills by the person is also a plus factor for the person to paid higher in money..

[Nxtblg]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

You don't have to imagine: something like that was tried in the real world after the U.S.S.R. imploded. When it came time to desocialize, the new Russian government decided that the best way was to issue shares in State-owned enterprises to everyone. It was like a gigantic "Free and Fair Distribution" experiment - and it had the same results.

Most of the folks who got their shares said, "Yay! Free money!" and sold their shares for whatever they could get. The biggest buyers with the most liquid bids - those folks were the first oligarchs.

"Pareto's Law" lives. What was interesting about the '14 Free-And-Fair fad is that it showed why Pareto's Principle worked. The ones who "scooped up all the money" were a mixture of bad and good, but what they had in common was that they were more future-oriented.

Funny that a big swinging whale would have so much in common with a bagholder, but there you go.

[Nxtblg]

I voted for "the more you work the more you get" option, but I was wrong. Working not necessary means production or services for others benefit. Unfortunately positive contributions are not easy to measure. An artist can have more positive effect on people in two minutes than an accountant in 8 hours, however in most cases the accountant makes the more important work.

That touches on the reason why I didn't vote at all. We live in a largely business-oriented society, so we know at some level that hard work does not necessarily translate into value added. Of course, we also know at some level that "value added" is in the mind of the valuers, which gives an open door to scammers and other folks that are good with mind games.

Unfortunately, social systems are something like that mythical manure pile. If you're not living near one, it smells musky and exotic - but if you're actually living in a particular one...

I need not go on...

[coinzat]

There is no realistic method to distribute money on people equally. Who or what will trust to do so ? A government? Which in most cases are full of corruption? So I believe in the more you work the more you get. And work smart not hard

[EdenHazard]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

i'm a worker,i get form what i do,i agree with "the more you work the more you get" . i think everybody must be struggle for what they need and they want,this world will full of hard work.

[Daniel91]

You can't just simple divide money in the world.
You can give away just money you have, your own money.
If you think about government and public money, you have to be aware that most countries in the world are in debts, and, in fact, asking for financial help and money from financial institutions and banks.
In some countries, like Switzerland, appeared idea about Guaranteed personal income.
It will be basic income for all people in the country, and will replace all social benefits and assistance from the state.
Swiss people rejected this idea on the referendum, but this possibility is much more realistic, and possible for rich countries like Switzerland, than your idea without explanation how to divide money in the real life.

[kryptqnick]

There is still a problem with "the more you work the more you get", because we don't take into consideration how hard the work is.. One might be writing screenplays for 5 hours and another one - constructing details for vehicles. Should they get the same amount of money?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

There is still a problem with "the more you work the more you get", because we don't take into consideration how hard the work is.. One might be writing screenplays for 5 hours and another one - constructing details for vehicles. Should they get the same amount of money?

No of course not.   The poll is kind of a silly one.  The capitalist system,  with free markets, is a good one I think.  Maybe something better will come along eventually but it rewards hard work and creativity in business abd relies less on government than socialism.

[Moloch]

I would do a little of each option...

Blockchain style
Everyone, including children,  gets 1 credit per day

Depending on the skill level of your job and number of hours worked, you get paid another 1-10 per day for labor

A percentage of the coins mined each day are used for budget/project proposals... Which anyone can create and vote on, similar to Dash

[magnific61]

Absolutely "the more you work, the more you earn"
Because this way is more justice. But rich should help poor. Life doesn't give same good opportunities to everyone.

[clangtrump]

The more effort the more profit. It should be as long government is smart then its a profit.

[fortunecrypto]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

if we are going to be experimental we can give all the people the same amount and see what will be the results,in my opinion the hard worker and the business minded will have more of it ..

While the other will just squander it ..

[buddycool]

Off course more money should be given to hard working leople who deserves that money... Because even if you give equal money to all, the one who is careless will spend all his money and wont work at all.. While the harworking and intelligent people doubles or even triples the money...

[poptok1]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

if we are going to be experimental we can give all the people the same amount and see what will be the results,in my opinion the hard worker and the business minded will have more of it ..

While the other will just squander it ..

That would be very dangerous experiment.
If all peeps get eaven amout of chash that money will be worth absolute zero.
All the products would get very expensive, revelant to money given for free.
Money are like any other goods if theres to much of them in use, their value drops.

[B for BTC]

you have to believe that live is unfair. money can not distributed equally between people because if that happen, noone will do his work and money will be useless. So everyone have to work hard in order to earn some money

[aardvark15]

Everyone should also have the same opportunity.  Then give those that work the most or hardest the most money.

[bonski]

I voted "the more you work the more you get" ofcourse money will not just come to you unless you will work for it to have profit there is no such thing as easy money. You need time , effort and determination for it. It is an equal opportunity to everyone that the more you work the more income you will get.

[designerusa]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

with the aim of being fair, this money must be portioned equally to all nation .. there will be no gap between rich classes and poor ones.. everybody should be rich for sure..

[omahapoker]

It will become harder in the future, Because the rich will get more richer and the poor will become more.

[bonski]

It will become harder in the future, Because the rich will get more richer and the poor will become more.

This is absolutely true, rich people got money for investment and they will have they daily income and they will hire poor people with a very low salary that will work for them and help them to have profit , so poor people like me must be encouraged of how this system works

[mrflibblehat]

It about action and reaction. You get as much as you work. It's only fair.

[popcorn1]

What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
 give everybody the same amount
 a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
 the more you work the more you get

Give everybody 15k a year for free .Then the more you work the more you get rule included..
if your worth more than 3 million you don't get the 15k any more..

With the 15k poor people will pay there own rent then live of the rest if you have loads of children its your own fault you only got 15k .still go out and work tho and earn more..
and you don't get the 15k till your 21 years old

Also free education and free health..my ideal world and it would work

[mrflibblehat]

What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
 give everybody the same amount
 a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
 the more you work the more you get

Give everybody 15k a year for free .Then the more you work the more you get rule included..
if your worth more than 3 million you don't get the 15k any more..

With the 15k poor people will pay there own rent then live of the rest if you have loads of children its your own fault you only got 15k .still go out and work tho and earn more..
and you don't get the 15k till your 21 years old

Also free education and free health..my ideal world and it would work

Yes but where would these "free" money come from?

[arbitrage]

To be equal in anything is unfortunetely just a dream. Especialy when we are talking about money. There will be always people who will have more then they need and those who doesn't have for a decent living. And nobody can change that.

There will always be a people who will deceives you and take your money.
Also some people will know how to save money and invest, but others will spend on
unnecessary gadgets..So the equality will last very shortly.

[Mr. Big]

It must be "the more you work, the more you get"  there should be no space for lazy people...just put to the exemption those who are disable...besides, even those disable sometimes work harder than those physically fit...

[mrflibblehat]

The world is complicated, and certain smart people take advantage of this, making it more complicated and using this in their favor.

[arbitrage]

It must be "the more you work, the more you get"  there should be no space for lazy people...just put to the exemption those who are disable...besides, even those disable sometimes work harder than those physically fit...

Yes but what about people who can't work people with disabilities and very sick people?

Also some people working very little and they have much and opposite.
This model would be very good, if we start new world today.

[eon89]

All this is predicated on the idea that people would be honest. But there will always be thieves and scammers.

[arbitrage]

All this is predicated on the idea that people would be honest. But there will always be thieves and scammers.

Not only that many people not start from equal starting position so this is very unfair to talk about this topic.
More you work your employer will have more. And if you live in third world countries..
This can apply only if we live in UTOPIA but even then you will work more for others..

[eon89]

You can live a decent life. It's not easy but it is doable. I don't say rich, but decent.

[anon_giraffe]

Another consideration is physical effort. Some hard manual jobs create major stress on bodies that can prevent long term dedication to that job and cause long term physical damage.

What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
 give everybody the same amount
 a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
 the more you work the more you get

Give everybody 15k a year for free .Then the more you work the more you get rule included..
if your worth more than 3 million you don't get the 15k any more..

With the 15k poor people will pay there own rent then live of the rest if you have loads of children its your own fault you only got 15k .still go out and work tho and earn more..
and you don't get the 15k till your 21 years old

Also free education and free health..my ideal world and it would work

Yes but where would these "free" money come from?

Guaranteed Minimum Income is a well known concept. The base idea is that all people have the ability to care for themselves no matter what employtment circumstances they're in. Having a relaxed confident core of workers theoretically creates a more unified and prosperous society.

Any person can view themselves in regard to employment, and take whatever time is necessary to shape themselves to fit their employment views.

However, there is a need for education such that a welfare state of dependancy is not created.
Such GMI is not necessarily of benefit to a psychologically ill culture.

[clickerz]

It must be "the more you work, the more you get"  there should be no space for lazy people...just put to the exemption those who are disable...besides, even those disable sometimes work harder than those physically fit...

Agree with you sir, money shouldt be directly proportional to its effort get it. The more harder a person works,the more money or compensation he should get.Its Fair.

[bonski]

You can live a decent life. It's not easy but it is doable. I don't say rich, but decent.

That's the right term for it. Decent but not rich it is better to live with a decent life in peace and you have enough profit for a living rather than living a rich life but you are wasted with your full time work or business on it, most people wants to be rich but there are rich people wants to live a peaceful life.

[iqlimasyadiqa]

if we work hard whatever we can get. government only monitors while the action is in our hands. we can get what we want if we have the motivation to get it.

[Xenophoto]

(a.) If you gave everybody else the same amount of money, for some reasons that would be considered as equality. But for people that are willing to work harder than those slackers that are going to have the same amount of me money as they are, it is very unfair.

(b.) The world is full of greedy people. If you let them take how much they want, there will be a person willing to get all the money in the world, leaving the other people having no money at all.

(c.) For me the money you get should depend on your knowledge and how you use it. If you do have a lot of knowledge and can make a lot of money without doing much effort, then that's okay. If you otherwise are not knowledgeable and can only do heavy stuffs of work, then you have to do much effort. Both deserves to be paid higher than the people who does nothing in their lives.

[Hirose UK]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

it's better to get salary depends on how hard works we do. if our works need much power or much thinking, the salary should be big then.

I think it's not fair to get the same salary in doing different level of difficulty.

[Farhad shaikh]

Money and people are related each other.Money can made chance to peoples mind. And people can made money.

[designerusa]

you have to believe that live is unfair. money can not distributed equally between people because if that happen, noone will do his work and money will be useless. So everyone have to work hard in order to earn some money

perfectly agreed .. life is unequitable for humanity.. incomes can not be allocated equally because of our modern world 's economical systems. so everybody have to work hard for money ..

[Saksham]

Money changes people when they don't respect it and it comes back to bite them. It's important as a way of getting through but experience has taught that having too much breeds unhappiness and misfortune. The more you have the more likely you will lose it!

[AzibLala007]

the sincerity of people will come out at that time when have alot of money and you borrowed some and they refused at your face.

[Daniel91]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

First, government can't create something from nothing, even money
In order that government can have money, first they have to collect it from the taxes.
In order to collect taxes, some people should earn money first.
In order that people can earn some money, jobs are needed.
There a no jobs without government regulations and no government regulations without government
So, everything is connected.
Government don't have absolute freedom to do whatever they wants with public money.
It's naive way of thinking.
They have to give salary to many workers in the government offices, army, public health industry etc.
They also have to pay for national loans, cover international cost for international organization as World bank, Unite Nations etc.
So it's impossible that government can share all money with people, even small amount of public money is difficult to share, because of so many different agendas and interests in society.
Yes, people should receive salary for their work but if they work in private area, they can't request government to give them salary.
It will be strange to do such thing.

[RobFre]

I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers ) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.

[KennyR]

I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers ) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.

More you work, more will be your earning but here as mentioned every user has a unique perspective about their own job. The pay or money they get is totally upon the universal analysis and acceptance.

[techgeek]

Its not about diving money in my view.

Op has a bit flawed, and should be can everyone pay their fair share of taxes according to how much they make.

[Gronthaing]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

You don't have to imagine: something like that was tried in the real world after the U.S.S.R. imploded. When it came time to desocialize, the new Russian government decided that the best way was to issue shares in State-owned enterprises to everyone. It was like a gigantic "Free and Fair Distribution" experiment - and it had the same results.

Most of the folks who got their shares said, "Yay! Free money!" and sold their shares for whatever they could get. The biggest buyers with the most liquid bids - those folks were the first oligarchs.

"Pareto's Law" lives. What was interesting about the '14 Free-And-Fair fad is that it showed why Pareto's Principle worked. The ones who "scooped up all the money" were a mixture of bad and good, but what they had in common was that they were more future-oriented.

Funny that a big swinging whale would have so much in common with a bagholder, but there you go.

Without context people could think you were right. Truth is more complicated. Before the first shares were issued the russian people had been under extreme austerity measures. Very high taxes and interest rates, so no borrowing or financing for many industries and businesses, very big cuts to welfare programs, high unemployment, hyperinflation, etc. It's not that the oligarchs were more future oriented as you say. It's that they weren't at risk of being homeless or starving. So could take advantage of the shares and buy shares from others. Something most people couldn't afford. Easy to see when you look at who many of them are: old business managers and other party insiders. And the other privatizations they did after were worse. Just fraud nothing else.

[AzibLala007]

this is the right way that the more you work the more you get.
and money and people are two opposite things.
one with money will be just a man without feelings.
and some one with money will be a man with a good heart.

[Xenophoto]

I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers ) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.

Indeed, even school teachers rant about McDonald's employees getting more paid than teachers do. Well if they've got a problem with their salary, they can always switch to another job. My point is, people are free to choose what to do in life so we do not have the rights to rant if we think some people are getting paid more with their easy job.

Money and people are related each other.Money can made chance to peoples mind. And people can made money.

Some people change their behavior whenever the topic is changed to money. Some people use money as an inspiration to do their tasks but this actually just make a person greedier. Although we can always make money when there's an opportunity, our nature makes us greedier whenever we once handle a big amount of money.

[gentlemand]

They should spend all of the money on removing greed from humans and then letting them graze with no concept of money at all.

[CheapYoutubeHits]

I think we should all be equally payed, but on the other hand some jobs require harder work or are more complicated that they should be payed more for
else people would not do the job if they get payed the same amount but the job is much easier,

[clangtrump]

I love money, and its pretty easy to make because you need to discover the right investments that earn you a lot.

For example its pretty easy to double your BTC in a few days!

[Gronthaing]

Some people change their behavior whenever the topic is changed to money. Some people use money as an inspiration to do their tasks but this actually just make a person greedier.

And more money isn't a great incentive. Not for most types of work. Useful for repetitive work but not for more complicated things. There are better ways of motivating people. Like giving them a job where they can grow and be recognized by others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKKPQiRRag

[acroman08]

isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.

[Xenophoto]

isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.

Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

They should spend all of the money on removing greed from humans and then letting them graze with no concept of money at all.

I doubt this will have a positive outcome. If they remove all the greedy people on Earth, then no one's going to be left here. All of us are greedy in our different ways. Some are greedy for food, money, love, sex, and etc. Our nature is to want more of what we have. We can't control ourselves, we are nothing but greedy people no matter how we deny it.

[acroman08]

isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.

Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

you just repeated what i just said you just made it longer and more detailed.

[Xenophoto]

isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.

Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

you just repeated what i just said you just made it longer and more detailed.

I don't want to spoonfeed here but I did not repeat your post and just make it longer because I disagreed with your post.

To quote:

Although I DON'T think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

The highlighted part should let you know that my point contradicts yours.

[JesusHadAegis]

isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.

Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

you just repeated what i just said you just made it longer and more detailed.

I don't want to spoonfeed here but I did not repeat your post and just make it longer because I disagreed with your post.

To quote:

Although I DON'T think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

The highlighted part should let you know that my point contradicts yours.

Yes sir true that.

Well if i was  distributed this way, i'd spend that money to make my current job easier. Because people can either spend or invest that money, and if that was a one time deal to everyone.

[acroman08]

isnt it obvious the more you work the more you get, if you gave the same amount to everyone without working then the people who is working hard will lose its interest to work hard because they will only get the same amount as the people who arent working.

Giving every person in the planet the same amount of money will only result in envy and/or jealousy. Some parents will make a lot of kids just to get more money. More member of the family, more money they'll get as the distribution of money is per person. Although I don't think distribution of the same amount of money will make people with job lose their interest especially if (a.) they are passionate about their work. (b.) they've got nothing to do in their life and will only be bored in their house. (c.) No other reason to live. (d.) Doesn't mind about the equal distribution of money.

you just repeated what i just said you just made it longer and more detailed.

I don't want to spoonfeed here but I did not repeat your post and just make it longer because I disagreed with your post.

did you read my post properly or you just didnt understand the first sentence in my comment?

[malcovixeffect]

Well i think chaos would occur and if thats a one time deal.

[thisappointed]

Im gonnago to the 2nd deal cause a rich man felt being rich and a poor can feel being rich and it will depend on how people use them moneys

[bitbunnny]

This could be the worse possible scenario. So, that politics decides who will have how much money. After a while that kind of situation could lead to chaos, even war. Andq I can't agree that we all are equal and that we all have to be equaly paid. We have different capabilities, different intelligence, different knowledge and education, some will work hard to achieve something, others like to use other people to get to their goal.

[Dassi]

The more you work, the more you earn is the best method of sharing money. That way people will not become lazy.

[Farhad shaikh]

Money and people are related. people earn money for keep happy to he and his family. you can bay everything by money. money is make so many problem. If you want money you will work. Be happy.

[Satosh¡ Domains]

there should be a ceiling on how much you can earn per year, that isdoes a person who earned 10 million a year actually need the 11 million? it's crazy how much money some people make, and each person should not be allowed to own more than lets say 100 million. 

[xuan87]

I will say who works more get more, it is supposed to be how nature works, it will teach people become more diligence, without a target/goal, human will become lazy with no patience and determination, and in the end nobody is going to work

so people need to be push so we can get a better life

[JesusHadAegis]

Money and people are related. people earn money for keep happy to he and his family. you can bay everything by money. money is make so many problem. If you want money you will work. Be happy.

Agreed mate. Most people would select money over love cause its practical. Gone are the days where tha saying " money can't buy happiness" could make sense. Offcourse there are limits. And ya either money builds or destroys you.

Know your limits.

[mrhelpful]

I will say who works more get more, it is supposed to be how nature works, it will teach people become more diligence, without a target/goal, human will become lazy with no patience and determination, and in the end nobody is going to work

so people need to be push so we can get a better life

Simple but skewed view based on tax avoiders, and other hacks that people use to get ahead.

Example, when you mention work "hard" get more. Its more of if you work "smart" and you work hard gets more.

[DrTeddus]

Salary/Income shouldn't be equal. A dedicated scientist deserves more resources than a bum/extreme consumer.
Equality isn't justice; people aren't equal, some are better in terms of strengh/appearance/needs/intelligence/creativity and so should they be valued by society.
Survival of the fittest is still a thing and not necessarily a bad one in my opinion (social darwinism). 

[gerXhonza]

I will say who works more get more, it is supposed to be how nature works, it will teach people become more diligence, without a target/goal, human will become lazy with no patience and determination, and in the end nobody is going to work

so people need to be push so we can get a better life

so you mean to say that labour works hard and more so he is earning more? A guy who is talented educated and who works smart will always over take a person who is working hard.

[Crazygreek]

I think people must reciving money for smth, if we will choose way with equal amount of money, a lot of people will just wasting and don't work. Third ways is the best i think.

[groll]

Well, the last one is the best I think among the choices.  You have to work to earn money.  It is the price for the people who work hard.  It is a wonderful feeling if the money you earned came in a nice and decent way. 

[virtualx]

The options listed are not the only (theoretical) systems. One could easily think of others, not saying they are necessarily good:

• behavior-based income (the more crime, the less income)
• group-based income (you share an amount with several others)
• age-based income (income distributed over age)

[ObscureBean]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

A world where everyone is equal is an impossibility. And I mean this exactly the way you understand it.
Power/money works/exists only when neutrality/equality/integrity is broken/compromised. For power/money to work, you need to have the extremely weak and the extremely strong, the extremely rich and the extremely poor. Without this gradient that allows it to flow downward, it doesn't work.
A simple but encompassing analogy would be you can't produce power/electricity from a calm lake but if you get the water flowing down from a high point, you have power.

[marcuslong]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

I think if all is equal theres no people want to have boss, dont want to clean in dirty floor, dont want to clean toilet because if they equal theyre pride is equal too. If we are equal in salary many will dont want it because their job is so hard and they salary is equal many workers will anger.

[escrowboy]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

I think it's better if the more you work the more money you get, its like complimenting hardworkers that they should be given more, for all of those efforts they did. In our world things like this are happening but not most of the time because things go like this:

Higher class people who have more power has the one who make the big profit without doing anything
People that work hard but didn't have any money to build a business become the worker and being paid with salary that doesn't even worth the work they have done.

That's how things go in 3rd world countries I am living.

[carlisle1]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

I think , our salary should be based and depend on the work that we have done and it is not equal if those professionals are making a salary with the same amount of what the unprofessionals can make so if that can be happen why we should have to go to school study for a profession and graduate for that profession if all people has an equal salary ?

[mrhelpful]

I will say who works more get more, it is supposed to be how nature works, it will teach people become more diligence, without a target/goal, human will become lazy with no patience and determination, and in the end nobody is going to work

so people need to be push so we can get a better life

The view points of this is a bit skewed and proven everyday in front of your eyes.

A man who slaves away working hard 40hrs a week and a year goes by just paying bills.

Vs

A man who slaves away work but builds something towards an audience can scale towards life time of payments through his project.

Tip: Its the right "type" of work that should be focused on then having no focus at all.

[Seansky]

Well in my opinion we do not need to be equal. Our salary must depend on the work we do, how hard it is and how much time we spent doing it. I think that's the right thing that should happen. Work more and harder = more salary.

[ObscureBean]

Well IMO the one who works more must be give more money. Its not fair to give everybody the same amount of money if some works hard some doesn't. It is also unfair if a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it.

How do you decide who works more though? For example it takes a lot more energy to work in a field for 8 hours than it does to sit behind a desk for 8 hours. Other professions, you don't work as much but every time you do, you're literally risking your life.

[Maesters1-]

the more you work i think. but you must keep one thing in your mind that that money you earn must be used in good deeds there is a percentage of poor people in your money which must have to pay to them at the end of every eary. and this is called ZAKAT. you must take care of those people who cannot earn money because of some reason either they are disable or have some other problems.

[escrowboy]

Well IMO the one who works more must be give more money. Its not fair to give everybody the same amount of money if some works hard some doesn't. It is also unfair if a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it.

How do you decide who works more though? For example it takes a lot more energy to work in a field for 8 hours than it does to sit behind a desk for 8 hours. Other professions, you don't work as much but every time you do, you're literally risking your life.

Because people who sit is more likely drain their brain cells to think. The only question here is which is more doing the complex work. The one who think or the one who do physically.

[Gronthaing]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

I think if all is equal theres no people want to have boss, dont want to clean in dirty floor, dont want to clean toilet because if they equal theyre pride is equal too. If we are equal in salary many will dont want it because their job is so hard and they salary is equal many workers will anger.

One way around it is everyone cleans the toilet. Easy way to ensure work no one wants to do gets automated soon. Not very practical though. So maybe have universal basic income instead. Work nobody wants to do is paid very well and easier work paid less well. Ensures everyone has basic needs met and there is some equality. But allows more flexibility.

[Das]

Work and earning money is what keeps the world going, without this, the world would have crashed a long time ago.

[cluit]

the more you work i think. but you must keep one thing in your mind that that money you earn must be used in good deeds there is a percentage of poor people in your money which must have to pay to them at the end of every eary. and this is called ZAKAT. you must take care of those people who cannot earn money because of some reason either they are disable or have some other problems.

Yeah that is a good thinking and every human should have that quality and kind heart to help such peoples without thinking of yourself and being dishonest or selfish.  So, you will be called a real child of the god !

[abugseuf]

Work and earning money is what keeps the world going, without this, the world would have crashed a long time ago.

yes i am also agree with you. my personal view is that p person should earn money according to the word we do. but i  think in our earning there is a part of those people who cannot do word or those who are disable.

[jupiterdianysa]

Its not always like you get what you deserve by being hardworking but general idea is to to work more to gain more tho

[abugseuf]

Its not always like you get what you deserve by being hardworking but general idea is to to work more to gain more tho

for and i think for most of the people it is a general view that if a person is doing hard work he deserve to get more reward. so i will like to say that those people who are working more so they have the right to get more money. and this is the rules of the world i think.

[carlisle1]

Well in my opinion we do not need to be equal. Our salary must depend on the work we do, how hard it is and how much time we spent doing it. I think that's the right thing that should happen. Work more and harder = more salary.

Yeah I think so that's good enough and it woulbe fair to those people that's working hard and exceeding what is expected to them and because of that he or all of them will become more motivated and more productive . It's obviously much better being equal in terms of salary also the work overtime should be counted more because of that the production sometimes will get finished earlier than the expected time and also it can be helpful for both the workers and for the industry .

[Lateralus]

There is labor, and then there is labor leveraged with human intellect, and then there is purely intellectual effort (such as writing the code for a program that makes other people's work much more efficient). Basically, the labor theory of value is pure non-sense. By itself hard work doesn't mean shit when you're a human being, it's smart work that matters. Also most people who get rich are those who learn how to save money, and invest it. This is called leverage, and they don't teach you much about it in the state education system. Socialism or any other kind of redistributive/interventionist centrally planned social schemes will only ever result in the exact thing they were meant to prevent: Chronic poverty and endless monopolies.

Speaking of monopolies, government is the entity which makes all arbitrary monopolies possible in the first place. It is the state who will point to an extremely successful and innovative business, and say look... a natural monopoly! They then punish the "guilty" party while taking their kick-backs in the process. Relevant:https://i.imgur.com/xqrgb7w.png

Think of Microsoft supposedly having a "natural monopoly" on internet browsers in the late 1990s, what a joke. The truth is there was nothing truly innovative about other internet browsers at the time, and thus no reason for anyone to use something other than IE. In fact IE 5.0 was arguably superior for it's time. Of course the fact that it was Microsoft's OS did give them an inherent advantage, but it hardly constituted the idea that they had an unbreakable monopoly on internet browsers. People think just because their product is slightly better on a technical level, that means somehow they deserve market share. Using Microsoft's browser on Microsoft's OS had it's own perks, so if competitors really wanted to grab market share they should have focused on making more dramatic & significant innovations rather than being a poor loser and running to daddy government to break up evil Mr. Gate's monopoly.

There are two definitions of monopoly, the economic version (which no one uses), and the political version (which everyone uses, and carries inherently negative implications). The truth is not all monopolies are bad, and in fact a lot of the time the reason one company will have a dominant hold on market share in any particular industry is simply because that is the very reason they are able to offer so much value to their customers in the first place. For example I would argue Intel shoving AMD out of the market is a good thing for consumers in the long run, because at the end of the day there's nothing really dramatically innovative or different about AMDs processors any more. What this really means is that software developers can now focus their efforts on optimizing their code for a single architecture, so at the end of the day the amount of relative computing power consumers will be getting per $ spent will actually be higher.

[alplaxxx]

three's nothing to be equal, people are unique in every aspects, intellectual differences you may see, the future is here, if you work hard you pay less, but if you work wise, you pay more than to your expectation,  don't work hard just work wise.

[thisappointed]

i think it would be base on what service you can give. men and women can be seen differently.

[nururochac]

Work and earning money is what keeps the world going, without this, the world would have crashed a long time ago.

Lol, you're so innocent in the world we are living. Don't you know the economy is made out of humans ideas. If ever working and earning money for a living don't exist, you're more likely seeing us hunting on the wild while and doing what Charles Darwin said, survival of the fittest.

[Cyaren]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

I would say the second thing.
If you let's say work in NASA you cant really have the same salary as the guy who digs holes at the countryside right? it wouldnt be fair at all,one can think that the second guy does the harder job but well... i dont think so actually.
Strange topic,but interesting indeed.

[frankmb]

Well, i think money is a good motivation for people to get skilled or exploit their talents.

So work gotta be paid...

[Racey]

This website will get you thinking, of how it could be in the future

https://www.thevenusproject.com/

And if you have some spare time, watch this video, or bookmark for later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb5ivvcTvRQ

From the website

In a Resource Based Economy all goods and services are available to all people without the need for means of exchange such as money, credits, barter or any other means. For this to be achieved all resources must be declared as the common heritage of all Earth’s inhabitants. Equipped with the latest scientific and technological marvels mankind could reach extremely high productivity levels and create abundance of resources.

Resource Based Economy concerns itself with three main factors, namely Environmental, Technological and Human. We invite you to investigate further into these factors and discover more about The Venus Project and Resource Based Economy.

[Tanic]

The idea that our salary should depended from work we do is seems good and useful even now. But by this idea the most of money will stay at government in any case, cause they imagine themselves as the top of all professions and specializations.

[barbara44]

Work and earning money is what keeps the world going, without this, the world would have crashed a long time ago.

Lol, you're so innocent in the world we are living. Don't you know the economy is made out of humans ideas. If ever working and earning money for a living don't exist, you're more likely seeing us hunting on the wild while and doing what Charles Darwin said, survival of the fittest.

hahahaha Money is what drives people. Our social establishments has made us believe that having a lot of money is equivalent to becoming successful. This is deep seeded belief in young mind. We should realize that money is simply a tool that helps us get our needs, desire and utlimately the freedom. We should never perceive wealth as something to be stored by this mean we are always preparing to live.

[CrimBit]

The idea that our salary should depended from work we do is seems good and useful even now. But by this idea the most of money will stay at government in any case, cause they imagine themselves as the top of all professions and specializations.

agree with your statement, the salary of each people is depending about how hard he work, sometimes how high his school also can give some plus salary /

[hermanhs09]

Work and earning money is what keeps the world going, without this, the world would have crashed a long time ago.

Lol, you're so innocent in the world we are living. Don't you know the economy is made out of humans ideas. If ever working and earning money for a living don't exist, you're more likely seeing us hunting on the wild while and doing what Charles Darwin said, survival of the fittest.

hahahaha Money is what drives people. Our social establishments has made us believe that having a lot of money is equivalent to becoming successful. This is deep seeded belief in young mind. We should realize that money is simply a tool that helps us get our needs, desire and utlimately the freedom. We should never perceive wealth as something to be stored by this mean we are always preparing to live.

That's true,in our society money is a fuel for people,what is not true.
But i agree with you,money is something what drives people from many many years,and you can't just erase it from across the world.

[Cresciuanto]

The idea that our salary should depended from work we do is seems good and useful even now. But by this idea the most of money will stay at government in any case, cause they imagine themselves as the top of all professions and specializations.

agree with your statement, the salary of each people is depending about how hard he work, sometimes how high his school also can give some plus salary /

i think earning money is a game of luck. i have seen so many people totally ignorant they cannot even write their name. but still they have millions and billions of dollars. i have also seen so many qualified and intelligent  people working in the companies of ignorant people. a very wise saying by Rahman Baba. that "nerve pray for to become intelligent always prey for good luck because i have seen so many intellectual working under the supervision of lucky persons".

[Cresciuanto]

The idea that our salary should depended from work we do is seems good and useful even now. But by this idea the most of money will stay at government in any case, cause they imagine themselves as the top of all professions and specializations.

agree with your statement, the salary of each people is depending about how hard he work, sometimes how high his school also can give some plus salary /

what is the definition of hard work. do you mean by hard work that if if a person is sitting and making rules and laws for the country and another person is working in mountain and cutting stones and making way for vehicles. which one is doing the hared work. what about intellectual.

[worhiper_-_]

None of those 3 are right. but i voted for the last one because it was closer to the "Truth"
You can't give everyone the same amount of money because it won't be fair for someone who has a harder job or does his job better .
The second one  can not be done because simply  no one would be honest with their self   and they would ask for exaggerated  amount of money.
Third of all just as someone else stated What if someone is being more productive in the 2 hours of work while the other person who is working for 8 hours is maybe just doing nothing at all? So yeah none of them are right

[nururochac]

None of those 3 are right. but i voted for the last one because it was closer to the "Truth"
You can't give everyone the same amount of money because it won't be fair for someone who has a harder job or does his job better .
The second one  can not be done because simply  no one would be honest with their self   and they would ask for exaggerated  amount of money.
Third of all just as someone else stated What if someone is being more productive in the 2 hours of work while the other person who is working for 8 hours is maybe just doing nothing at all? So yeah none of them are right

Do you even understand the third choice?
It says the "more work", doing nothing at all is not a work. Your statement is clearly wrong there and misunderstood what is more work, more profit mean. The one who did nothing in 8 hours should not be having more profit than the one that is productive for 2 hours.

[hermanhs09]

Guy's,lets just be serious.
If the government had all the money,probably 80% of people will never know what happiness means,because the people in goverment
like politics etc.only think about themselves,not about the poor people in their country that need help.

[hase0278]

In my opinion the money should be divided by the more someone work the more he/she get. I think that way because I think if the government will give everybody the same amount then it would not be fair for those who work more. The 2nd option "a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it" isn't good either since if people will take how much he/she needs and takes it, It would just cause laziness because everyone can just take money they need and if they can decide how much he/she needs and takes it well some people can take a very big sum then it wouldn't be fair for those who will pick last and the one who will benefit are the early pickers. Well for me the third option the more you work the more you get because you have to do work before obtaining money and it will be productive that way.

[hermanhs09]

The idea that our salary should depended from work we do is seems good and useful even now. But by this idea the most of money will stay at government in any case, cause they imagine themselves as the top of all professions and specializations.

That is why 90% of people even getting normal payout could not get payed their salary paid in bitcoin,because they could not
risk it until take can convert it fiat:If they have families,believe me converting btc-fiat every day/week/month could be dangerous for their financial status.

[PokerFace3]

Guy's,lets just be serious.
If the government had all the money,probably 80% of people will never know what happiness means,because the people in goverment
like politics etc.only think about themselves,not about the poor people in their country that need help.

yaa just like the scenario of the hunger games without the match though hahahaha !!!! People should realize that's it's not money that we want. It is the freedom and independent feeling that we want. So, money is just the tool that helps us achieve our freedom and happiness.

[Hirose UK]

I believe that people who work as hard as they do should receive a higher money unlike people who are not taking serious work or lesser work should be paid less in money, even they are instances that rates may follow due to education gained by the person. Knowledge and skills by the person is also a plus factor for the person to paid higher in money..

yeah, I agree. the harder people work, the higher they should get salary. sometimes there are people out there who work very hard, but they get so small salary, and I think it's not fair.

[DashTron]

I think the whole principle of heritage should be removed.
It would equal the chances of everybody.

[entrepmind23]

If people will be given the same amount of money, some will protest because they will think they deserve more. For example, the government will give same amount to people who work hard to earn money and others who just begged to have money. Of course the hard working ones will protest because they contributed more to the society than the ones who just begged.

[nururochac]

Guy's,lets just be serious.
If the government had all the money,probably 80% of people will never know what happiness means,because the people in goverment
like politics etc.only think about themselves,not about the poor people in their country that need help.

It's happening, that's why economic system's money is inflating so fast because government can make a lot of money as long as they want and it can be made out of thin air.

[Daniel91]

Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?

First scenario, you suggested, that all people should have equal money, already failed many times.
Communism had this goal but failed.
Some kibbutz tried it but couldn't last for the long time.
Why?
Simple, we are all different and have different abilities, skills, knowledge etc.
So, if we have to do some work for example, more capable people will do more work and less capable people less work.
I'm sure that less capable people will be very happy to receive equal salary as everybody else, but what about more talented and capable people?
They will quickly loose their desire and inspiration to work and everything will fail, as always when someone tried such experiment.
You can't pay people the same, it will never work this way.

[virtualx]

What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get

Come to know that none of these are actually in modern world. Maybe "the more you work the more you get" is the best, but it certainly is not the system we have 

[romero121]

What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get

Come to know that none of these are actually in modern world. Maybe "the more you work the more you get" is the best, but it certainly is not the system we have 

Well now the true situation is more you involve into corruption more will be the richness of the people. Due to the existence of such a situation group of people are affected badly though they work hard.

[PokerFace3]

What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get

Come to know that none of these are actually in modern world. Maybe "the more you work the more you get" is the best, but it certainly is not the system we have 

Well now the true situation is more you involve into corruption more will be the richness of the people. Due to the existence of such a situation group of people are affected badly though they work hard.

They act of corruption in most of the corporations today is the parasite to the society. This is creating disharmony in the earnings of the normal people. Due to these activities rich becomes richer and the poor people have to work hard but still underpaid. If goverment the power to distribute the banks would take all the money !!!

[nururochac]

What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get

Come to know that none of these are actually in modern world. Maybe "the more you work the more you get" is the best, but it certainly is not the system we have 

I agree, because here in our world the more source you have the more money you get.

Example a rich person can provide computers to build a company and hire people that can affort computer to work. Then this guy can easily get money from people that working hard for him because he has the resources for the workers.

[Andarin]

We can't live in this world without money, because money is what we need to buy foods, clothes, etc. basic needs of a human. That is why they say that money is the root of all kinds of evil, which is true because some even kill for money. It's just so sad to think about but that's the reality we can't do anything but to accept it

[jupiterdianysa]

I know its not fair at all but money is the key stone of life

[th3nolo]

Its very simple the more you work the more you get 

[apollofire]

Its going to be a worst scenario where Govt is the deciding authority. They will distribute money unevenly and most to their cronies etc.

[helloeverybody]

the only option of these 3 that could ever work is the more you work the more you earn. people are lazy and if everyone had the same then no one would need to work because they could buy anything they wanted, that means when you need a plumber or electrician you cant actually get one because they have enough money and wont want to go out to work. At the end of the day that would make money worthless, same goes for taking however much you want. In a real world these options are just not workable.

[ObscureBean]

that's the reality we can't do anything but to accept it

Well that's not exactly true, you do have a choice. The 'world' pretty much offers you to choose the minute you're born. Join us or die. We control everything, this world is ours, there is nowhere for you to hide if you don't join us. But I guess it's not really a choice for most because everyone values their lives above everything else.

[Jmild1]

We can't live in this world without money, because money is what we need to buy foods, clothes, etc. basic needs of a human. That is why they say that money is the root of all kinds of evil, which is true because some even kill for money. It's just so sad to think about but that's the reality we can't do anything but to accept it

Money is just a manipulative that item that oppress people in doing things that's unnecessary. Money is just use in a system that we have, if you remove money we can still live as long as people will help each other but this is impossible since people has different minds and as long as religion exist people will never see reality and will still blind follow the ignorance of their religion.

[mv__]

Its very simple the more you work the more you get 

Did you mean the more rich your parents are the more you get?

[escrowboy]

Its very simple the more you work the more you get  

Did you mean the more rich your parents are the more you get?

Ask yourself does being a rich means you're working hard as what farmers do? The answer is no, reason people get rich is because they have the ability to buy resources which a hardwork person can't then make this person as a puppet to do the work for them. Getting 10% from employee which do the work while 90% for the boss which doesn't do anything and his only part is the resources/equipement he has for the employer to be able to work.

[bitcoinboy12]

Its very simple the more you work the more you get 

Did you mean the more rich your parents are the more you get?

Ask yourself does being a rich means you're working hard as what farmers do? The answer is no, reason people get rich is because they have the ability to buy resources which a hardwork person can't then make this person as a puppet to do the work for them. Getting 10% from employee which do the work while 90% for the boss which doesn't do anything and his only part is the resources/equipement he has for the employer to be able to work.

Sad truth. But really pretty much how everything works. This is the system that is not that easy to breach. The key if you ask me is education. People who worked hard and invest on education gets to have a a more fair shot in life.

[Maesters1-]

Its very simple the more you work the more you get 

Did you mean the more rich your parents are the more you get?

Ask yourself does being a rich means you're working hard as what farmers do? The answer is no, reason people get rich is because they have the ability to buy resources which a hardwork person can't then make this person as a puppet to do the work for them. Getting 10% from employee which do the work while 90% for the boss which doesn't do anything and his only part is the resources/equipement he has for the employer to be able to work.

Sad truth. But really pretty much how everything works. This is the system that is not that easy to breach. The key if you ask me is education. People who worked hard and invest on education gets to have a a more fair shot in life.

yes every one should have money according to their work. for example if i am posting here for a signature campaign and they are paying me for my quality posts. if i am not completing my limit and just post 2 or 3 they why will they pay me for more than 2 or 3. or why should pay equally to one who is completing his job and one who not completing it.

[patronis]

Its very simple the more you work the more you get 

Did you mean the more rich your parents are the more you get?

Ask yourself does being a rich means you're working hard as what farmers do? The answer is no, reason people get rich is because they have the ability to buy resources which a hardwork person can't then make this person as a puppet to do the work for them. Getting 10% from employee which do the work while 90% for the boss which doesn't do anything and his only part is the resources/equipement he has for the employer to be able to work.

Sad truth. But really pretty much how everything works. This is the system that is not that easy to breach. The key if you ask me is education. People who worked hard and invest on education gets to have a a more fair shot in life.

But the issue with needing to invest in education in order to get anywhere is that you can't invest what you don't have, meaning if you do get higher education it would have to be on a loan which makes its own debt. The system is good at making everything daunting too.

[Dank14]

It is better for people to work for money or else we might become lazy slobs.